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[Debirudog]

I have nothing but gay respect for my gay elders. Believe me.

 

[mo60]

I will. Hillary won't win Utah.

Trump is probably going to win that state by 10 points

 

[royalan]

Gay is already great

My concern is that Grindr (and Tinder) are going to increase the rates of STDs. Too many gay men don't always engage in safe sex. Or maybe the dreamy red haired twink guy they met in the mountains of Vermont told them that he was allergic to condoms and they believed them because they wanted sex. That's possible.

That ain't Grindr's fault. Avenues for anonymous hook-ups have always existed. If anything, I'd say apps/sites these days do a decent job keeping their users informed of the risks.

The real culprit, as with most things, is shitty education. We're becoming further and further removed from the days when HIV killed and STIs cost a lot of money and embarrassment to have treated.

 

[johnsmith]

Garrison Keillor with that ether

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...p-losing-garrison-keillor-20160831-story.html

When this is over, you will have nothing that you want


The cap does not look good on you, it's a duffer's cap, and when you come to the microphone, you look like the warm-up guy, the guy who announces the license number of the car left in the parking lot, doors locked, lights on, motor running. The brim shadows your face, which gives a sinister look, as if you'd come to town to announce the closing of the pulp factory. Your eyes look dead and your scowl does not suggest American greatness so much as American indigestion. Your hair is the wrong color: People don't want a president to be that shade of blond. You know that now.

Why doesn't someone in your entourage dare to say these things? So sad. The fans in the arenas are wild about you, and Sean Hannity is as loyal as they come, but Rudy and Christie and Newt are reassuring in that stilted way of hospital visitors. And The New York Times treats you like the village idiot. This is painful for a Queens boy trying to win respect in Manhattan where the Times is the Supreme Liberal Jewish Anglican Arbiter of Who Has The Smarts and What Goes Where. When you came to Manhattan 40 years ago, you discovered that in entertainment, the press, politics, finance, everywhere you went, you ran into Jews, and they are not like you: Jews didn't go in for big yachts and a fleet of aircraft — they showed off by way of philanthropy or by raising brilliant offspring. They sympathized with the civil rights movement. In Queens, blacks were a threat to property values — they belonged in the Bronx, not down the street. To the Times, Queens is Cleveland. Bush league. You are Queens. The casinos were totally Queens, the gold faucets in your triplex, the bragging, the insults, but you wanted to be liked by Those People. You wanted Mike Bloomberg to invite you to dinner at his townhouse. You wanted the Times to run a three-part story about you, that you meditate and are a passionate kayaker and collect 14th-century Islamic mosaics. You wish you were that person but you didn't have the time.

 

[Thequietone]

I think Johnson has a better chance of winning Utah instead of Hillary, but until more polls come out I wouldn't even bet on that.

 

[Spiritreaver]

I don't mean this as a salty old bitch, but queer kids under the age of 25 are, on the whole, a big mess. Like, some of these children need to be sat down and taught their herstory. Because, I do not have time for people a few years younger than me telling me that I have no idea about how shit went down a few years ago. Like, I ain't got time for it. I don't.

These kids need to learn the names of the men, women and everyone in between who was out there fighting for their right to jokingly call themselves f-ggots because it's ironic. I ain't got time for it. No, ma'am. I do not.

And don't even get me fucking started on log cabin republicans. Because....child. No.

Preach! I'm already seeing myself turn into an old and jaded gay, and I'm only 30. But I mostly attribute that to be single for 5 years,

 

[Crayons]

That ain't Grindr's fault. Avenues for anonymous hook-ups have always existed. If anything, I'd say apps/sites these days do a decent job keeping their users informed of the risks.

The real culprit, as with most things, is shitty education. We're becoming further and further removed from the days when HIV killed and STIs cost a lot of money and embarrassment to have treated.

Well, you're right, but I'd say Grindr has made it a lot easier. I've had a lot of sex. Believe me.

 

[Debirudog]

A guy I hooked up with recently told me when he was growing up they didn't have the internet and he never even had sex until like his late twenties. And then when the internet came out he met guys through AOL chatrooms and it was like a big thing for him.

There is hope for me. Maybe I should try this but I'm too afraid about...well, everything.

 

[Crayons]

There is hope for me. Maybe I should try this but I'm too afraid about...well, everything.

Do you wanna hook up with me?

 

[royalan]

Well, you're right, but I'd say Grindr has made it a lot easier. I've had a lot of sex. Believe me.

Gurl, I live a stone's throw from the stadium here in Philly where the convention was held...


Thank you Grindr.

Thank you Hillary.

 

[Crayons]

Gurl, I live a stone's throw from the stadium here in Philly where the convention was held...


Thank you Grindr.

Thank you Hillary.

that sounds like a lot of fun

 

[User 463088]

Gay is already great
A guy I hooked up with recently told me when he was growing up they didn't have the internet and he never even had sex until like his late twenties. And then when the internet came out he met guys through AOL chatrooms and it was like a big thing for him.

I remember being like 12 or 13 and going into MSN chat rooms on dialup. I'd stay up until 3 or 4 in the morning talking to guys because it was such a revelation that HOLY SHIT there were other people like me out there. And, that is such an amazing, unexplainable feeling when you've spent your entire life feeling like "the other" and....there are people like you. And, better still, these people aren't getting bashed or getting AIDS or getting made fun of....and that was only like 2000.

Preach! I'm already seeing myself turn into an old and jaded gay, and I'm only 30. But I mostly attribute that to be single for 5 years,

I feel you. I'm a bigger gay just because, i"ve always been a bitter bitch. But I am losing patients for some of our community. Not sure if it's me getting older or this insane idea that "we won" or something. I want to make some of these people go play with children in nature or something.

 

[Teggy]

Great, now I am getting Dinesh D'souza ads.

We apparently don't talk positively enough about Hillary in this thread. All I get are anti-Hillary, pro-Trump and Gary Johnson ads.

 

[Debirudog]

Do you wanna hook up with me?

Aren't you into older men.

I'm not really hot either...

and while i like the idea of sex, never doing makes me nervous and....blegh.

 

[Tarydax]

Garrison Keillor with that ether

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...p-losing-garrison-keillor-20160831-story.html

Savage.

 

[User 463088]

Aren't you into older men.

I'm not really hot either...

and while i like the idea of sex, never doing makes me nervous and....blegh.

Real talk:

Sex is a bit overrated. Like, I know that sounds insane coming from me...but trust. Like, sex is fun, but I'm one of those who cannot be with someone I'm not totally 100% into. My self-esteem is too low for that.

 

[Iolo]

Today I learned there was a time before the Internet

 

[Foffy]

Real talk:

Sex is a bit overrated. Like, I know that sounds insane coming from me...but trust. Like, sex is fun, but I'm one of those who cannot be with someone I'm not totally 100% into. My self-esteem is too low for that.

If you can't talk drag queen lore, you don't want no more?

 

[Crayons]

Aren't you into older men.

I'm not really hot either...

and while i like the idea of sex, never doing makes me nervous and....blegh.

I'm not at all exclusively into older men. I'm a fan of men in general. I like, and have been with, all ages of guys. From 18 to 52. The head wants what the head wants.

I remember being like 12 or 13 and going into MSN chat rooms on dialup. I'd stay up until 3 or 4 in the morning talking to guys because it was such a revelation that HOLY SHIT there were other people like me out there. And, that is such an amazing, unexplainable feeling when you've spent your entire life feeling like "the other" and....there are people like you. And, better still, these people aren't getting bashed or getting AIDS or getting made fun of....and that was only like 2000.

I can actually somewhat relate. When I was a young teen I too would stay up to 3 or 4 in the morning, but on a gay teens group on xanga. I didn't even get sexual with these guys it was just nice knowing other gay people my age existed.

 

[brianmcdoogle]

Garrison Keillor with that ether

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...p-losing-garrison-keillor-20160831-story.html

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tmkq7yylRkU

 

[Dominican Power]

Garrison Keillor with that ether

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...p-losing-garrison-keillor-20160831-story.html

I don't appreciate The Queens slander.

 

[User 463088]

Today I learned there was a time before the Internet

We do not speak of those times.

If you can't talk drag queen lore, you don't want no more?

I mean, like, my bf knows nothing about drag queens. My bf is the straightest gay guy ever. He doesn't know shit about...anything. But, he's a good guy, and we have like other things in common. But, we took it slow, got to know each other....and then we went to that level. Then a few months later we ended up with two kids. Hahahaha. Mess.

 

[Crayons]

Real talk:

Sex is a bit overrated. Like, I know that sounds insane coming from me...but trust. Like, sex is fun, but I'm one of those who cannot be with someone I'm not totally 100% into. My self-esteem is too low for that.

I am not like this at all.

Like, sometimes I feel tired of sex because it quickly went from being something I never had and always wanted to something I could easily get with a few texts. Sometimes when I'm banging a guy I start thinking about food, or about the homework I have to do. I have guys messaging me all the time and I'm spreading myself too thin. It's a mess.

But I have no problem with casually having sex with someone and never seeing them again

 

[NeoXChaos]

Interesting thing about AZ and GA is that they both have turned blue in most of our life times unlike UT.

I think every state has gone blue for me except for KS, OK, UT, ID, MS, AL, ND, SD, NE CD 1, 3, WY, TX, SC

Until 08 VA, NC & IN would have been on that list.

 

[User 463088]

I am not like this at all.

Like, sometimes I feel tired of sex because it quickly went from being something I never had and always wanted to something I could easily get with a few texts. Sometimes when I'm banging a guy I start thinking about food, or about the homework I have to do. I have guys messaging me all the time and I'm spreading myself too thin. It's a mess.

But I have no problem with casually having sex with someone and never seeing them again

I respect that a lot. The thing is, I don't like myself enough to be able to do that. I don't have the self-esteem or the confidence or whatever to be able to pull that off. And I'm not throwing shade or anything. I'm the hookup that texts you 90000 times because "I think you left a sock at my house, do you want to come get that...marry me, have three children and buy a house in the suburbs?"

 

[Sibylus]

Real talk:

Sex is a bit overrated. Like, I know that sounds insane coming from me...but trust. Like, sex is fun, but I'm one of those who cannot be with someone I'm not totally 100% into. My self-esteem is too low for that.

TBH, right there with you and self-esteem has nothing to do with it. Friends just make more suitable partners imo.

 

[Wilsongt]

Preach! I'm already seeing myself turn into an old and jaded gay, and I'm only 30. But I mostly attribute that to be single for 5 years,

I'm 31 and an old, jaded gay. Doesn't help that I have a lot of issues and have really only encountered poor relationship quality men.

It's pride where I live this weekend and I don't give two shits. The idea if being around that many gay men just makes me want to curl up in a corner and rock due to anxiety.

 

[Spiritreaver]

Real talk:

Sex is a bit overrated. Like, I know that sounds insane coming from me...but trust. Like, sex is fun, but I'm one of those who cannot be with someone I'm not totally 100% into. My self-esteem is too low for that.

I hear this. I can't enjoy it (sometimes can't even get into it) if I don't have some sort of emotional connection with that person. I get bored. Physical intimacy alone is not enough for me to have a good time.

 

[Debirudog]

I am not like this at all.

Like, sometimes I feel tired of sex because it quickly went from being something I never had and always wanted to something I could easily get with a few texts. Sometimes when I'm banging a guy I start thinking about food, or about the homework I have to do. I have guys messaging me all the time and I'm spreading myself too thin. It's a mess.

But I have no problem with casually having sex with someone and never seeing them again

I think that's pretty cool to have a large sexual appetite but as much as I want sex because of my insecurity/boredom/frustration/low-self esteem/loneliness...I think I'm more like Adam wanting to take it slow and then fuck.

Or maybe I'm a coward with a lot of guilt because parents. I'm a mess.

 

[Debirudog]

TBH, right there with you and self-esteem has nothing to do with it. Friends just make more suitable partners imo.

That's what I want to do. Make close-contact friends.
I'm even bad at that. Either my gaydar is non-existent and there's no gay scene here. At all. In Eugene.

 

[Foffy]

I respect that a lot. The thing is, I don't like myself enough to be able to do that. I don't have the self-esteem or the confidence or whatever to be able to pull that off. And I'm not throwing shade or anything. I'm the hookup that texts you 90000 times because "I think you left a sock at my house, do you want to come get that...marry me, have three children and buy a house in the suburbs?"

Y-you would be the only person to text me if we twerked together. I would appreciate all 90000 messages, even if it's clingy. ;3

 

[Crayons]

I think that's pretty cool to have a large sexual appetite but as much as I want sex because of my insecurity/boredom/frustration/low-self esteem/loneliness...I think I'm more like Adam wanting to take it slow and then fuck.

Or maybe I'm a coward with a lot of guilt because parents. I'm a mess.

It's a problem for me though! I don't wish this upon anyone. I finish and I'm already aroused again. When I walk around campus, I am literally checking out all the guys I find attractive. I'm not subtle either. I look straight at them with bedroom eyes. Sometimes they look back. Touch my leg and I'm already hard. Already had sex today? Let me find someone else. I'm a mess. I hate being 20.

 

[brianmcdoogle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP6N-UsEK1M

please don't depress me with sad memories of yo la tengo and days gone bye....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUJYXaS7J-Q

 

[User 463088]

TBH, right there with you and self-esteem has nothing to do with it. Friends just make more suitable partners imo.

I agree friends are more suitable partners than just like hookups that grow into more, though I know some people who met that way and that's cool. Like, when I say self esteem it's basically if someone gives me a compliment I 1) die of embarrassment and 2) fall instantly in love with them. That's why hookups don't work for me, because it leaves me feeling worse about myself, because I obsess and just turn into a big mess. I had to go through a shit ton of heartbreak before I worked that out. And, ya.

I hear this. I can't enjoy it (sometimes can't even get into it) if I don't have some sort of emotional connection with that person. I get bored. Physical intimacy alone is not enough for me to have a good time.

Same. I think, for me, there are a lot of reasons why I'm like that. It's a result of falling in mutual love with my best friend growing up (we "dated" when we were like 13 until he moved to another state when we were 16 or 17, but we'd been friends from the time we were 10). LIke, because that's the base on which I came out and came into accepting who I was, my brain associates that type of relationship with fulfillment...and anything else is just meh. Of course, this means I have like huge periods of time where I'm alone and bitter hahahaha.

That's what I want to do. Make close-contact friends.
I'm even bad at that. Either my gaydar is non-existent and there's no gay scene here. At all. In Eugene.

Don't even focus on the quote unquote gay scene. My ex I met at his mom's house when she was cutting my hair. My current bf I knew of him from where he works. Like just be chill with people, and you'll find a connection. Or you'll just make friends. That's cool too.

Y-you would be the only person to text me if we twerked together. I would appreciate all 90000 messages, even if it's clingy. ;3

Aww, you say that now. but trust.

 

[Spiritreaver]

I'm 31 and an old, jaded gay. Doesn't help that I have a lot of issues and have really only encountered poor relationship quality men.

It's pride where I live this weekend and I don't give two shits. The idea if being around that many gay men just makes me want to curl up in a corner and rock due to anxiety.

I'm the same, 100%, which surprises people that know me. Between the shallow, judgmental, or just purely immature men I always came across, it just made me tired of people. Found myself enjoying the "scene" less and less. Now I don't even bother.

 

[Debirudog]

It's a problem for me though! I don't wish this upon anyone. I finish and I'm already aroused again. When I walk around campus, I am literally checking out all the guys I find attractive. I'm not subtle either. I look straight at them with bedroom eyes. Sometimes they look back. Touch my leg and I'm already hard. Already had sex today? Let me find someone else. I'm a mess. I hate being 20.

i'm not really subtle when I look at men either, haha. It's too bad many, and I say many hot men left for the summer though. My resting bitch face doesn't help.

 

[royalan]

It's a problem for me though! I don't wish this upon anyone. I finish and I'm already aroused again. When I walk around campus, I am literally checking out all the guys I find attractive. I'm not subtle either. I look straight at them with bedroom eyes. Sometimes they look back. Touch my leg and I'm already hard. Already had sex today? Let me find someone else. I'm a mess. I hate being 20.

Oh, you poor, sweet thing...

For 20 on a college campus that's perfectly normal.

For me it was especially bad because I waited until I was tucked away at college to come out. So years worth of repressed sexuality came bursting out at a time when I was surrounded by horny gays concentrated in a small area. Lord I was a mess. lol

 

[User 463088]

This somehow turned into an episode of Talk Sex with Sue Johanson.

Oh, you poor, sweet thing...

For 20 on a college campus that's perfectly normal.

For me it was especially bad because I waited until I was tucked away at college to come out. So years worth of repressed sexuality came bursting out at a time when I was surrounded by horny gays concentrated in a small area. Lord I was a mess. lol

Drama camp was my kryptonite. 100 (mostly gay) teenagers with 3 adults to supervise. Mess is an understatement.

 

[Foffy]

Aww, you say that now. but trust.

Pray tell, what is the spook I should be concerned about?

I have five cats. I know what clinginess is like.

 

[Sibylus]

I somehow wound up with two partners and I'm pretty happy. Wouldn't have it any other way

 

[User 463088]

Pray tell, what is the spook I should be concerned about?

I have five cats. I know what clinginess is like.

I have six, soon to possibly be 7. I win.

Haha, well, I just hate that I would get so clingy with guys. I grew out of it, and ended up being a bit distant at first because I didn't want to get hurt again. Grew out of that too, eventually. Life is a work in progress, so you just roll with the punches.

 

[Foffy]

I have six, soon to possibly be 7. I win.

Haha, well, I just hate that I would get so clingy with guys. I grew out of it, and ended up being a bit distant at first because I didn't want to get hurt again. Grew out of that too, eventually. Life is a work in progress, so you just roll with the punches.

And this is why I don't see the spook. Be with people and things as they are and tranquility is found. Resist and chaos occurs.

This is true twerk.

 

[Debirudog]

Don't even focus on the quote unquote gay scene. My ex I met at his mom's house when she was cutting my hair. My current bf I knew of him from where he works. Like just be chill with people, and you'll find a connection. Or you'll just make friends. That's cool too.

Aww, thanks.
I am pretty anxious and paranoid around people. I should think less what people would think of me though.

But really, thanks, I always admired you, Adam. <3

 

[Crayons]

I somehow wound up with two partners and I'm pretty happy. Wouldn't have it any other way

I want a harem

 

[Teggy]

This is why you can't feed PoliGAF after midnight!

 

[User 463088]

And this is why I don't see the spook. Be with people and things as they are and tranquility is found. Resist and chaos occurs.

This is true twerk.

I can't twerk. I have no rhythm.

Aww, thanks.
I am pretty anxious and paranoid around people. I should think less what people would think of me though.

But really, thanks, I always admired you, Adam. <3

I'm kind of the same around people. I try too hard. Because, if they don't like me I want them to HATE Me and if they like me I want them to love me. It's all a big mess, tbh.
Awww. That's so sweet.

 

[Foffy]

I can't twerk. I have no rhythm.


I'm kind of the same around people. I try too hard. Because, if they don't like me I want them to HATE Me and if they like me I want them to love me. It's all a big mess, tbh.
Awww. That's so sweet.

Find your freakuency, homie. Find the booty in your being.

 

[Debirudog]

This is why you can't feed PoliGAF after midnight!

WE'RE GAY BONDING.

 

[Crayons]

I used to be really anxious and stuff around people. But I learned more how to not care about what other people think. Except my appearance I care a lot about that

 

[metalslimer]

So this is what CTR is paying for eh?