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PoliGAF 2016 |OT10| Jill Stein Inflatable Love Doll

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mo60

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Chezzymann said:
On real clear politics 4 way average Clinton is only up 3%, and she's only up 4% on the head to head. Seems like things are tightening. Should we be worried? I guess it all depends on how the debates go now. Shell probably do good and get a sizable boost back to around 7%, but I've seen crazier things this election cycle.
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HuffPost Pollster shows her up 5.4 in a two way and CBC polltracker shows her up 4.4 in a 4 way 45.8 to 41.4. Other is 12.8% in that poll tracker.

nature boy said:
Obama won't meet with Duterte.
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I'm not sure how strong the US's relationship with the Philippines will be as long as Duerte is the president of that country.I'm surprised Duerte has not bashed Trudeau yet.

adam387 said:
LABOR DAY: CLINTON COUGH VIOLENTLY RETURNS
GETTING WORSE

Drudge Headline. LOLOLOL
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I hope these conspiracy theories about hilary's health stop eventually.
 
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Another Sad and Pathetic Hit Piece from the Failing WaPo

Trump’s history of corruption is mind-boggling. So why is Clinton supposedly the corrupt one?

And even when the new information serves to exonerate Clinton rather than implicate her in wrongdoing, the coverage still emphasizes that the whole thing just “raises questions” about her integrity.

The big difference is that there are an enormous number of reporters who get assigned to write stories about those issues regarding Clinton. The story of something like the Clinton Foundation gets stretched out over months and months with repeated tellings, always with the insistence that questions are being raised and the implication that shady things are going on, even if there isn’t any evidence at a particular moment to support that idea.

When it comes to Trump, on the other hand, we’ve seen a very different pattern. Here’s what happens: A story about some kind of corrupt dealing emerges, usually from the dogged efforts of one or a few journalists; it gets discussed for a couple of days; and then it disappears. Someone might mention it now and again, but the news organizations don’t assign a squad of reporters to look into every aspect of it, so no new facts are brought to light and no new stories get written.

The end result of this process is that because of all that repeated examination of Clinton’s affairs, people become convinced that she must be corrupt to the core. It’s not that there isn’t plenty of negative coverage of Trump, because of course there is, but it’s focused mostly on the crazy things he says on any given day.
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But the truth is that you’d have to work incredibly hard to find a politician who has the kind of history of corruption, double-dealing, and fraud that Donald Trump has. The number of stories which could potentially deserve hundreds and hundreds of articles is absolutely staggering. Here’s a partial list:


  • Trump’s casino bankruptcies, which left investors holding the bag while he skedaddled with their money
  • Trump’s habit of refusing to pay contractors who had done work for him, many of whom are struggling small businesses
  • Trump University, which includes not only the people who got scammed and the Florida investigation, but also a similar story from Texas where the investigation into Trump U was quashed.
  • The Trump Institute, another get-rich-quick scheme in which Trump allowed a couple of grifters to use his name to bilk people out of their money
  • The Trump Network, a multi-level marketing venture (a.k.a. pyramid scheme) that involved customers mailing in a urine sample which would be analyzed to produce for them a specially formulated package of multivitamins
  • Trump Model Management, which reportedly had foreign models lie to customs officials and work in the U.S. illegally, and kept them in squalid conditions while they earned almost nothing for the work they did
  • Trump’s employment of foreign guest workers at his resorts, which involves a claim that he can’t find Americans to do the work
  • Trump’s use of hundreds of undocumented workers from Poland in the 1980s, who were paid a pittance for their illegal work
  • Trump’s history of being charged with housing discrimination
  • Trump’s connections to mafia figures involved in New York construction
  • The time Trump paid the Federal Trade Commission $750,000 over charges that he violated anti-trust laws when trying to take over a rival casino company
  • The fact that Trump is now being advised by Roger Ailes, who was forced out as Fox News chief when dozens of women came forward to charge him with sexual harassment. According to the allegations, Ailes’s behavior was positively monstrous; as just one indicator, his abusive and predatory actions toward women were so well-known and so loathsome that in 1968 the morally upstanding folks in the Nixon administration refused to allow him to work there despite his key role in getting Nixon elected.
And that last one is happening right now. To repeat, the point is not that these stories have never been covered, because they have. The point is that they get covered briefly, then everyone in the media moves on. If any of these kinds of stories involved Clinton, news organizations would rush to assign multiple reporters to them, those reporters would start asking questions, and we’d learn more about all of them.

That’s important, because we may have reached a point where the frames around the candidates are locked in: Trump is supposedly the crazy/bigoted one, and Clinton is supposedly the corrupt one. Once we decide that those are the appropriate lenses through which the two candidates are to be viewed, it shapes the decisions the media make every day about which stories are important to pursue.

And it means that to a great extent, for all the controversy he has caused and all the unflattering stories in the press about him, Trump is still being let off the hook.
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rulerk1

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Steve Cortes digging his grave on MSNBC lmao

The Trump foundation/ donation controversy is getting some coverage finally
 
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Emarv

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The press need to stop thinking Trump is trying to confuse people on his immigration policy when asked different questions 1 on 1.

The dude just isn't smart and just says "we'll see" when he feels confused.
 
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Emarv said:
The press need to stop thinking Trump is trying to confuse people on his immigration policy when asked different questions 1 on 1.

The dude just isn't smart and just says "we'll see" when he feels confused.
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He's no genius. I think he just says what people want to hear depending on who he's talking to and he thinks that's actual policy.
 
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B-Dubs

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adam387 said:
And fruit salad and beer. :D We were their last stop for the day anyway. Been at it all day. Seemed really passionate.
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And here I thought treating the girl scout cookies girl to hot chocolate was kindness. I need to step my game up. I can only hope there's someone like you out there the next campaign I volunteer for.
 
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adam387 said:
We just got canvassed by Hillary people. Two college guys who are canvassing. We gave them hamburgers and hot dogs. Cool guys.
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Inside they were saying, "these guys think they are being generous, but Hillary gives us top-tier McDonald's."
 
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royalan said:
Hillary has started taking questions on Hill Force One.
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From what I saw on a video played on CNN, this plane press decision is heavily working in her favor. She is much better at talking in small gatherings like these than she is at giving a speech on a podium.
 
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TestOfTide said:
From what I saw on a video played on CNN, this plane press decision is heavily working in her favor. She is much better at talking in small gatherings like these than she is at giving a speech on a podium.
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I know she's better in Town Hall type settings as well. Where she can into detail about shit.

We've been spoiled by Obama as far as speeches are concerned and people need to get over that.

I just want her to win because I feel she'll be very good at governing and she's not one who needs to take credit for every big win.
 
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Tamara Keith‏ @tamarakeithNPR
Questions re: Russia hacking, FBI report. Lots on Russia. Then Clinton started coughing again mid answer. More to come (we are told).
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Ugh, she needs to be get some cough drops or something.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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Ben Garrison has some thoughts about Hillary coughing:

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Boke1879

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
#HackingHillary is the most amazing thing ever to trend at #1.

This is the ultimate Hillary derangement syndrome.
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It's amazing right. It shows how that demo zeros in on everything about her. She could blow her nose and it would be something.

Alot of times it's just people using the hashtag and saying other dumb shit unrelated to anything.
 
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thebloo

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Crooked Croaking Hillary Clinton!

Man, if I could make a lot of money working for the Trump campaign. Of course, the money wouldn't get paid...but lots of money.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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Boke1879 said:
It's amazing right. It shows how that demo zeros in on everything about her. She could blow her nose and it would be something.

Alot of times it's just people using the hashtag and saying other dumb shit unrelated to anything.
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Let's be really real for a second: These Nazis on Twitter who watch every Hillary speech to see if she coughs are causing White Genocide.

Nazis, if you're reading this, here's how you can stop being a cause of White Genocide and start being a solution.

1. Get social skills and empathy.
2. Find a SO who likes you and wants children.
3. If straight, fuck her and have white babies, keep having white babies. If gay, adopt a lot of white babies from Eastern Europe or some place.

Quit drawing cartoons about how Hillary coughs and instead #EndWhiteGenocide.
 
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Loudninja said:
Ehh really dont think this is true at all.
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I'm not saying that she's atrocious at rally speeches. I'm just saying that small group talks and debates are her peanut butter and jelly.

ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Let's be really real for a second: These Nazis on Twitter who watch every Hillary speech to see if she coughs are causing White Genocide.

Nazis, if you're reading this, here's how you can stop being a cause of White Genocide and start being a solution.

1. Get social skills and empathy.
2. Find a SO who likes you and wants children.
3. If straight, fuck her and have white babies, keep having white babies. If gay, adopt a lot of white babies from Eastern Europe or some place.

Quit drawing cartoons about how Hillary coughs and instead #EndWhiteGenocide.
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It's not white genocide. It's political white suicide.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Let's be really real for a second: These Nazis on Twitter who watch every Hillary speech to see if she coughs are causing White Genocide.

Nazis, if you're reading this, here's how you can stop being a cause of White Genocide and start being a solution.

1. Get social skills and empathy.
2. Find a SO who likes you and wants children.
3. If straight, fuck her and have white babies, keep having white babies. If gay, adopt a lot of white babies from Eastern Europe or some place.

Quit drawing cartoons about how Hillary coughs and instead #EndWhiteGenocide.
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But honestly. This just goes to show how "optics" mean so much to people and is really bs.

Trump keeps yelling about her health. So now anytime she coughs, sneezing etc it's a big deal.

Same shit really about the birther BS. You give it enough of attention and have people parrot on about it it takes hold.
 
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It's infuriating that Trump for some reason can't be both a crazy asshole and corrupt, so people settle for the former. Like what the fuck? Compared to Trump, Hillary isn't nearly as corrupt. Not even remotely close. Just infuriates me that it's so baked in.
 
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B-Dubs said:
And here I thought treating the girl scout cookies girl to hot chocolate was kindness. I need to step my game up. I can only hope there's someone like you out there the next campaign I volunteer for.
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Only down side was the 5 year old had a mini melt down because he made everyone place mats for today....and they didn't have their own place mats. He just kept saying "This is a disaster" over and over.
Teggy said:
Inside they were saying, "these guys think they are being generous, but Hillary gives us top-tier McDonald's."
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Brah. Brah.
Prime. Rib. Burgers. My bf ground the meat himself. (not a euphemism....) Mcdonalds ain't got shit on me right now.
 
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B-Dubs

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adam387 said:
Only down side was the 5 year old had a mini melt down because he made everyone place mats for today....and they didn't have their own place mats. He just kept saying "This is a disaster" over and over.


Brah. Brah.
Prime. Rib. Burgers. My bf ground the meat himself. (not a euphemism....) Mcdonalds ain't got shit on me right now.
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The 5 year old sounds adorable.

Also, goddamn why couldn't you live in NY and make that shit where I can get at it.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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There are thousands of Nazis that Twitter refuses to ban, what a joke service and website.

Twitter and Reddit are probably the main bases of Antisemitism in the United States right now.
 
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