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[Sibylus]

Only in an election year would fainting in the heat (happens a lot, ya'll) be reason to be flailing around pissing on everything.

I fainted at the delicate little age of 23! Dehydration! That's literally all it was!

 

[NeoXChaos]

Chris CillizzaVerified account ‏@TheFix 4h4 hours ago
Hillary Clinton's health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign http://wpo.st/rXWx1

he was salivating writing this.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

Ok my bad but he lost that one!

Because it was a recession and Perot split the conservative vote.

 

[pigeon]

Because it was a recession and Perot split the conservative vote.

OR IS IT

 

[Goodstyle]

This day sucks

 

[Sibylus]

Clinton recovered a lot quicker than me, too. I lost my whole day to that shit.

 

[Wilsongt]

he was salivating writing this.

And fuck the WaPo.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

OR IS IT

Are you ok? I think you might have hypohidrosis.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

I just don't see anyone being swayed by this who wasn't already swayed by DIGITAL MAIL and FOUNDATION. And similarly, I feel like anyone who would be swayed by this would have already been swayed.

Feels like the negatives are so baked in for both candidates at this point that I don't expect a severe change in the aggregate in either direction barring an absolute meltdown at the debates.

I think this has more substance than the foundation BS.

Also I can't emphasize how damaging that video could be enough.

 

[metalslimer]

Clinton recovered a lot quicker than me, too. I lost my whole day to that shit.

Well she also has a doctor on hand to help her. Luckily she doesn't have to campaign today.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

Also I can't emphasize how damaging that video could be enough.

Actually, you have emphasized it enough for one day. Go lie down and play some Endless Mario Runner.

 

[pigeon]

Pigeon: this could be a big deal
PoliGAF: you're Diablosing this isn't a big deal
WaPo: this is a big deal
PoliGAF: STUPID CORRUPT MEDIA

 

[Sibylus]

Well she also has a doctor on hand to help her. Luckily she doesn't have to campaign today.

Went to emergency to get checked out. Narrowly avoided stitches on my face, kept having close calls for further faints but I got better and slept the rest of it off.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Actually, you have emphasized it enough for one day. Go lie down and play some Endless Mario Runner.

When is that releasing?

 

[Sibylus]

It looks bad (which is to say, invokes the dreaded "o word"), on substance it's most probably not.

 

[Wilsongt]

Thankfully I've only seen one post on Facebook so far saying she is unfit to be president because she couldn't stay outside in the heat.

People seem to forget we had a morbidly obese president as well as a wheel chair bound president who did just fine.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Pigeon: this could be a big deal
PoliGAF: you're Diablosing this isn't a big deal
WaPo: this is a big deal
PoliGAF: STUPID CORRUPT MEDIA

We do kind of need a Cillizza asterisk though

 

[pigeon]

Admittedly it's annoying that the primary sore point in the media coverage is that nobody told the media what was happening and they felt dumb.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

Pigeon: this could be a big deal
PoliGAF: you're Diablosing this isn't a big deal
WaPo: this is a big deal
PoliGAF: STUPID CORRUPT MEDIA

Actually, Chris Cillizza is not WaPo proper. He writes for The Fix. He's bad and should be ignored. He's so bad that he wrote this article four days ago:

Why I wrote about John McCain’s health in 2008 (and don’t think we should write about Hillary’s health now)

 

[metalslimer]

From what I've seen (don't watch fox) the media coverage has been mostly fair. None of them are engaging in conspiracy theories yet

 

[East Lake]

Yeah to be fair now that I've thought about she might accidentally faint and press the nuke button.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Yeah to be fair now that I've thought about she might accidentally faint and press the nuke button.

They should really put one of those clear plastic covers on it one of these days.

 

[Crayons]

Yeah to be fair now that I've thought about she might accidentally faint and press the nuke button.

there is no nuke button.

Spoiler

Right?

 

[thebloo]

Yeah to be fair now that I've thought about she might accidentally faint and press the nuke button.

Don't be silly, she's bad with technology.

From: H
To: Huma

Pls press.

 

[pigeon]

Actually, Chris Cillizza is not WaPo proper. He writes for The Fix. He's bad and should be ignored. He's so bad that he wrote this article four days ago:

Why I wrote about John McCain’s health in 2008 (and don’t think we should write about Hillary’s health now)

You understand that the Fix is a WaPo blog/column, right? And that Chris Cilizza is the Washington Post's White House reporter according to his byline?

 

[8 X 11 Printer Paper]

there is no nuke button.

Spoiler

Right?

Nuke Order and Nuke Keys yes.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Thankfully I've only seen one post on Facebook so far saying she is unfit to be president because she couldn't stay outside in the heat.

People seem to forget we had a morbidly obese president as well as a wheel chair bound president who did just fine.

You do have to remember that with FDR he tried as hard as possible to not be seen in public with his disability.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

there is no nuke button.

Spoiler

Right?

Only during football season

 

[Y2Kev]

I agree that it's a big deal. She'll have to address it. But it's not a scandal and should easily be addressed. If the campaign chooses to ignore it, I think that would be a mistake.

 

[Wilsongt]

You do have to remember that with FDR he tried as hard as possible to not be seen in public with his disability.

And I doubt Clinton is going out of her way to make herself look sick and weak to the general public.

 

[8 X 11 Printer Paper]

I agree that it's a big deal. She'll have to address it. But it's not a scandal and should easily be addressed. If the campaign chooses to ignore it, I think that would be a mistake.

That's the biggest thing I fear, and this is something I could see her campaign try to ignore for whatever dumb reason.

 

[PantherLotus]

Confidence in her as a leader? I can 100% say it didn't shake that.

And if there ever was a problem she's chosen an excellent VP who everyone loves and could take over immediately

No, confidence in her candidacy to withstand The Stupid.

yea, that's what happens when one faints

yes that is because when you faint you do not have control of your muscles

Yea she fainted and the video doesn't look good. Wish it didn't happen, But that's what happens when a person faints.

She came out 2 hours later looking fine, and she has a healthy issue they may have aided in this. Let's see what tomorrow brings.

Time to Diablos # 100

I'm having a blast.

Yessssss, this is the DIABLOS I seek.

Y'all wanna act like this is a bad poll or a flubbed answer? Our candidate is on camera being dragged into a car looking like a damn corpse. I know you dorks aren't worried about her health -- I'm not either. But you all vastly overestimate the capacity of people that don't breathe this shit every day to overcome The Stupid. You get your candidate passing out on camera after your opponent questions her health and y'all wanna pretend like it's nothing? Really?

 

[Aaron Strife]

Actually, you have emphasized it enough for one day. Go lie down and play some Endless Mario Runner.

It's not even endless tho

 

[A Link to the Past]

Random question, is Vermin Supreme trolling at all?

 

[PantherLotus]

(i see some of you are admitting this is not nothing now, forgive me if i quoted you and lumped you in)

 

[shem935]

That's the biggest thing I fear, and this is something I could see her campaign try to ignore for whatever dumb reason.

Unlikely imo. She has a press gaggle with her now so this will come up regardless and her quick reappearance suggests she knew of the possible coverage this would receive and wanted to head that off. It's an easily countered talking point that will get a day of coverage at most as long as she doesn't start keeling over on a regular basis. "Yeah I was dehydrated, wearing a thick vest, out in the sun, on a stressful day. I fainted and didn't look very graceful but I promise to drink more water going forward. *Insert fake politician jokey laugh*"

Edit: I do agree this would be more of a problem if she doesn't address it, but I am pretty confident she will which is why I am not worried.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

No, confidence in her candidacy to withstand The Stupid.











Y'all wanna act like this is a bad poll or a flubbed answer? Our candidate is on camera being dragged into a car looking like a damn corpse. I know you dorks aren't worried about her health -- I'm not either. But you all vastly overestimate the capacity of people that don't breathe this shit every day to overcome The Stupid. You get your candidate passing out on camera after your opponent questions her health and y'all wanna pretend like it's nothing? Really?

And what the fuck is anyone supposed to do? Maybe people can be in denial over it but it makes no difference either way.

I have resigned myself to whatever will happen at this point.

 

[Y2Kev]

No, confidence in her candidacy to withstand The Stupid.











Y'all wanna act like this is a bad poll or a flubbed answer? Our candidate is on camera being dragged into a car looking like a damn corpse. I know you dorks aren't worried about her health -- I'm not either. But you all vastly overestimate the capacity of people that don't breathe this shit every day to overcome The Stupid. You get your candidate passing out on camera after your opponent questions her health and y'all wanna pretend like it's nothing? Really?

Here we go again: her health has been questioned by conspiracy theorists and insane people. This does not build on that. You are not building a history or pattern of events so much as you are tying a very real medical event with a bunch of sewage flowing from the internet's asshole. I find this to be a very egregious logical misstep.

She fainted or nearly fainted. She's dragged because she has no control over her muscles. That's a priori true!

I'm not pretending like it's nothing. I already said (like three posts up) it's serious and she'll have to address it.

But the pattern I've found during "optics" navel gazing is that every optics professor has a lower opinion of people than he has of himself; it's not a big issue to me but "the Stupid" will surely be convinced. Maybe people who are 95% concerned with how things look need concern themselves slightly more with something else.

 

[nature boy]

Y'all wanna act like this is a bad poll or a flubbed answer? Our candidate is on camera being dragged into a car looking like a damn corpse. I know you dorks aren't worried about her health -- I'm not either. But you all vastly overestimate the capacity of people that don't breathe this shit every day to overcome The Stupid. You get your candidate passing out on camera after your opponent questions her health and y'all wanna pretend like it's nothing? Really?

Did I miss something, is she in critical condition at a hospital?

 

[Slizeezyc]

No, confidence in her candidacy to withstand The Stupid.











Y'all wanna act like this is a bad poll or a flubbed answer? Our candidate is on camera being dragged into a car looking like a damn corpse. I know you dorks aren't worried about her health -- I'm not either. But you all vastly overestimate the capacity of people that don't breathe this shit every day to overcome The Stupid. You get your candidate passing out on camera after your opponent questions her health and y'all wanna pretend like it's nothing? Really?

 

[Spoiled Milk]

You understand that the Fix is a WaPo blog/column, right? And that Chris Cilizza is the Washington Post's White House reporter according to his byline?

Yes. A WaPo column is never WaPo proper. You said that WaPo is saying that the health issue is now an issue. That is not true. The only place where the Washington Post ever expresses opinions with the full backing and reputation of the site is in its editorial board. A blog or column is just a space it provides for authors to express their own opinions, because it gets views and/or is popular. Or for whatever reason.

Likewise, when Paul Krugman releases an article saying the media is "goring" Hillary Clinton, I would never say "NYT: Hillary is getting gored by the media"!

And by "Chris Cillizza is not WaPo proper", I meant "Chris Cillizza publishing under The Fix blog is not WaPo proper."

 

[royalan]

OMG

Joy Reid went on a GLORIOUS rant against the #BasketofDeplorables on her twitter feed about two hours ago. I'd post them here, but it's a lot.

Really, MSNBC isn't worthy of her. One of the best journalists covering this election.

 

[Diablos]

Given that this thread is kind of a microcosm of democrats I think the party and voters may be in a bit of disarray right now. I don't know. We're really heading into uncharted territory. This whole presidential campaign has been defying the norm but this is especially fucked up.

I have no idea how bad this will be but it just occurred to me that we really don't need an ad of her fainting. That video in and of itself without anything else is just. So. Bad.

This isn't a disappointing poll or a slip of the tongue. It's Clinton stumbling into her vehicle like a zombie on the walking dead.

Timing could not be worse. I'm legit scared for this country right now. Trump cannot win. But he seriously might depending on how this all plays out. Everyone is in here disagreeing with everyone else about how much this matters. I know she isn't in critical condition but it's a perception thing. People who are low info voters will think she's in serious trouble with her health.

 

[Teggy]

Got up at 6am and spent the day doing my first century ride. Get back in the car and NPR has this Hillary overheating story. AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH

 

[Oblivion]

John Heileman said that Hillary's "deplorables" comment is proof that Trump was right that Hillary's a bigot. :/

 

[nature boy]

Given that this thread is kind of a microcosm of democrats I think the party and voters may be in a bit of disarray right now. I don't know. We're really heading into uncharted territory. This whole presidential campaign has been defying the norm but this is especially fucked up.

I have no idea how bad this will be but it just occurred to me that we really don't need an ad of her fainting. That video in and of itself without anything else is just. So. Bad.

This isn't a disappointing poll or a slip of the tongue. It's Clinton stumbling into her vehicle like a zombie on the walking dead.

Timing could not be worse. I'm legit scared for this country right now. Trump cannot win. But he seriously might depending on how this all plays out.

Trump has a big problem with women and you think he's going to release an ad mocking a 68-year old women fainting?

 

[Diablos]

John Heileman said that Hillary's "deplorables" comment is proof that Trump was right that Hillary's a bigot. :/

And Trump is such a saint.

Trump has a big problem with women and you think he's going to release an ad mocking a 68-year old women fainting?

I just said we don't need an ad. The video itself is bad enough. If republicans are smart they'll just not do an ad. It's that bad.

 

[Plinko]

Given that this thread is kind of a microcosm of democrats I think the party and voters may be in a bit of disarray right now. I don't know. We're really heading into uncharted territory. This whole presidential campaign has been defying the norm but this is especially fucked up.

I have no idea how bad this will be but it just occurred to me that we really don't need an ad of her fainting. That video in and of itself without anything else is just. So. Bad.

This isn't a disappointing poll or a slip of the tongue. It's Clinton stumbling into her vehicle like a zombie on the walking dead.

Timing could not be worse. I'm legit scared for this country right now. Trump cannot win. But he seriously might depending on how this all plays out. Everyone is in here disagreeing with everyone else about how much this matters. I know she isn't in critical condition but it's a perception thing. People who are low info voters will think she's in serious trouble with her health.

Breathe. 2 months left as well as the debates. Clinton's got a ton of money to blanket the airwaves. I'm worried, too. August was awful and this isn't good, either, but not time to panic.

 

[Boke1879]

I'm eagerly awaiting the thread title change.

 

[Oblivion]

Trump has a big problem with women and you think he's going to release an ad mocking a 68-year old women fainting?

...why wouldn't he?