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PoliGAF 2016 |OT10| Jill Stein Inflatable Love Doll

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Debirudog

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Psh - we worked for a black man named Barack Hussein running to be president in this country post 9/11. Nothing scares us in terms of hate. :p

Even if it's Bill Clinton commenting about how Obama should be getting him water.

As for "hated for even breathing" - Clinton does get a lot of unwarranted hate. But she also gets a lot of legitimate criticism that her supporters ignore because of this belief that everyone is a bunch of haters. Regardless of people wanting to brainlessly put all criticism of her into that category - if you're going to run for president, you have to be able to separate the two types. Her veil of privacy makes sense growing up in the 70s/80s/even early 90s political environment. In a modern time with twitter and the information revolution happening, where everyone has a recording device on them at all times, and in lieu of the failings post 9/11 this country went through with pushing security at the cost of privacy? It's outdated at best and actively detrimental at work.

Everyone will make errors. But making the same unforced error over and over, even when your own party is telling you it is an unforced error? Come on. If they had said "oh she has pneumonia" or even "she has a really bad cold" after her coughing fit, it would have lasted like a few hours or so and then everyone would have moved on. Hell, she could have even turned it into a positive point, that she was under the weather but that this is important and she had to keep fighting through. But by hiding it and then having it spill out into the open not on her campaign's terms - it has hurt her (only temporarily I think). Little stuff like that.
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Alright fine, you definitely have a point there...I mean I'm just a damn student so I wouldn't know much about campaigning compared to the legendary 2008 team. :p

Clinton's trust issues definitely come form being so tight lip on everything even when it's mostly harmless stuff. When stuff like pnuemonia really isn't a detriment on her character, I agree she probably would've eased a lot of tension had if she announced she has pnuemonia though it wasn't contagious or life threatening. But considering what Trump was propping about her being deathly ill or too weak for this country, I can't say what easy solution the Clinton campaign team was able to come up. I think the campaign team has it a lot harder, especially when the media can spin any information they want against her. Unlike Obama, I feel like she can never win, even when she made a feminist comment regarding her career choices.

That said, I really do admire the work you done for Bams. I even said, during a career interview, that the 2008 campaign greatly inspired me. The guy is my favorite modern president though I see myself in Hillary than I do with Obama.
 

Nafai1123

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I thought of a pun for Hillary supporters being depotable because she hates water, but then I realized depotable isn't a word.

#Wearedepotables
 

Debirudog

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I still can't bring myself to panic over this whole pnuemonia thing. Only the media seems to care about it so much because they weren't informed about it earlier.
 
I say this too damn often. This world isn't getting any better.

I think this is the struggle of our generation. This conflict of democracy and socialism died in the 90s. Now we have this, nationalism vs globalism. Movement of ideas and people are so much more accessible today that the world has to decide who we want to be.




I thought of a pun for Hillary supporters being depotable because she hates water, but then I realized depotable isn't a word.

#Wearedepotables

Deportables
 

Paskil

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White people are making me embarrassed to call myself American. Fuck a Muslim ban, we need to start talking about deplortables.
 

mo60

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This election and what it indicates for the future of the country makes me wish I was dead.

I don't think I was as worried in the federal election in Canada compared to this election. The awful rhetoric that was mostly anti-immigrant being spouted in the Canadian election pretty much died after the federal election. I don't think the awful rhetoric being spouted by trump and his ilk will die after this election
 
When the millennial gen and later become the powerbrokers things will change. They might be a little more sheltered from over-parenting because of absence. But they've only lived in a world that's progressed forward socially.

Especially for those born after 9/11. They've only seen a steady line of progress. They were born in a conservative era, they watched as we went from states passing gay marriage bans, to our first female Speaker of the House, to our first black president, to gay marriage.

They might not be excited about it as much as they should be, but they're even going to see our first female president. Which is a steady line of social progress that I'm happy to see.

I just hope they don't become too complacent. It took centuries for even one insanely qualified, inspiring black guy to get the presidency. It's taken centuries for a woman to even get the nomination of a large viable party.

None of these things happened over night. It took people fighting. I hope these children realize that.
 
I don't think I was as worried in the federal election in Canada compared to this election. The awful rhetoric that was mostly anti-immigrant being spouted in the Canadian election pretty much died after the federal election. I don't think the awful rhetoric being spouted by trump and his ilk will die after this election

The US is a goddamn mess.
 

Joeytj

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But you said it was pneumonia.

This is what we're talking about.

Sigh, we've talked about this.

Hillary has seasonal allergies (as stated clearly in her medical records since a year ago and forever), which couple with dehydration and/or other stuff like pneumonia (which also is allergies), can cause somebody to faint.

This pneumonia is a consequence of her allergies, and she apparently got dehydrated on top of it.

This is also why the Clinton campaign hates giving explanations. Voters apparently can't process more than one explanation for something. And Bill isn't her doctor anyway, he was probably just trying to say "it's no big deal" in a stupid way.
 

SexyFish

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"I'm aware of it and usually can avoid it."

Hillary on Anderson Cooper when asked about Bill saying it has happened a couple of times before due to dehydration.

She's on the phone right now.
 

mo60

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The US is a goddamn mess.

The good thing is trump's probably heading towards a steven harper style defeat at the hands of the US electorate at this point which is not a landslide in terms of US elections, but it will probably force the republicians to change what they are doing currently which will prevent another trump like candidate from appearing again probably.
 

fauxtrot

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Bring out the body double.

We all know it's not really going to be Hillary. We have the technology!

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Emarv

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She sounded fine. Wish she hadn't just regurgitated the Mook/Fallon talking points and sounded a little more forthcoming, but overall everything seems fine. She definitely seems fed up with the need for more transparency (at least relative to Trump), but she really seemed resilient on the phone.

Good stuff.
 

Revolver

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I wish they wouldn't bring up John McCain's records. They were a deliberate info dump. Thousands of pages they were only allowed to look at for a couple of hours.
 

Boke1879

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She sounded fine. Wish she hadn't just regurgitated the Mook/Fallon talking points and sounded a little more forthcoming, but overall everything seems fine. She definitely seems fed up with the need for more transparency (at least relative to Trump), but she really seemed resilient on the phone.

Good stuff.

This is the access people want from her. So it's good she did this.
 

Emarv

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I wish they wouldn't bring up John McCain's records. They were a deliberate info dump. Thousands of pages they were only allowed to look at for a couple of hours.

it definitely poses a weird argument. Do we want full public transparency or does the media want exclusive, detailed, yet not entirely public disclosure? It's kind of a weird point to keep arguing for.
 

Oblivion

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So Pence refused to call David Duke (!!!) "deplorable".

Judging by the news headlines, it doesn't look good so far.
 

Joeytj

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The hell we got so many pages for? What'd I miss since Hilldawg said she had pneumonia?

  • Violence at Trump rally again
  • Trump releases ad about deplorables comment but it actually proves Hillary's point
  • Pence on CNN not wanting to call David Duke "deplorable"
  • Hillary just had an interview on CNN and she seemed fine.
  • Bill opened his mouth and tried to nonchalantly say "this has happened to Hillary before and she's still alive!" *facepalm*

What else?
 
it definitely poses a weird argument. Do we want full public transparency or does the media want exclusive, detailed, yet not entirely public disclosure? It's kind of a weird point to keep arguing for.

They want their candy...

Most media cares nothing but for itself.
 
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