BenjaminBirdie
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But have you ever seen someone pick up a "Coke" with a fucking Sprite logo on the can?
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT10| Jill Stein Inflatable Love Doll
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But have you ever seen someone pick up a "Coke" with a fucking Sprite logo on the can?
User 463088
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Miami (of Ohio) is fine. Someone has to be the 9th best football team in the state.
The big thing that makes me Diablos is I don't totally trust Clinton or her campaign to not screw things up (i.e. Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004). Had 100% confidence in Obama in 2008 and 2012. When I see polls like this I get the same feeling I did in 2000 or 2004, like we can work as hard as we want but it doesn't matter because the media says the candidate is "flawed" for some reasons.
That's more Kentuckian than Midwest (though not much difference in parts of S. Illinois/Indiana/Ohio)
That's more Kentuckian than Midwest (though not much difference in parts of S. Illinois/Indiana/Ohio)
BenjaminBirdie
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Miami (of Ohio) is fine. Someone has to be the 9th best football team in the state.
ugh
dont get me started
dont even get me started
User 463088
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It's probably the 2004 electorate. As in, those exact people.
BenjaminBirdie
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Yeah, it was pop in Hamiltuck. But I've heard "Coke" in my midwest travels.
Damn right!
Officerrob
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At the end of the day it doesn't matter because it's just one poll, but it sure does seem like you are trying to push a particular narrative when you change the potential electorate to what it was 12 years ago just because
shinra-bansho
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They let Selzer out of her rejuvenation pod?
FloydtheFathead
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Couple of other fun stories is how they were recruiting in Michigan and the car was almost out of gas. One of the assistants on the trip said to stop the car. Woody said "we'll push and coast this goddamn car to the Ohio state line before we give this state a nickel of my money"
Another deals with the team being introduced at a public event and a freshmen was wearing a blue tie. Woody saw that and ripped that tie off of him
There are probably dozens of them.. One of My personal favorite moments from the rivalry is this..
For background for those who aren't aware, the M Club was a booster for the team and they put up a banner that every player runs through and touches it before the start of the game. (Think of Notre Dame's Play like a Champion sign as another example)
Well.. The team decided to take that banner down. And everyone went apeshit.
DIsney.. Give us Brett Musburger and Kirk Herbstreit to call Ohio State games again.
Adam.. Don't insult the cradle of coaches.Miami (of Ohio) is fine. Someone has to be the 9th best football team in the state.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_of_Coaches
Even though they made that Ben a star..
nature boy
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Should've posted the RV results, because this LV screening seems unrealistic to me.
HOW THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION'S FOREIGN BUSINESS TIES COULD UPEND U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY
PoliLurker here, surprised no links to this up yet (just the pre-post twitter buzz).
I just don't know if this will rise up past nothingburger status. It's not that I don't agree with the sentiment that Trump's financial dealings with various countries are a complete nightmare... but it's a nightmare that everyone already knows about.
As far as I can tell the investigation doesn't dive much deeper than publicly known business dealings and then presents a series of "what if" conjectures about how those dealings could have a major impact on a President Trump's policies.
PoliLurker here, surprised no links to this up yet (just the pre-post twitter buzz).
I just don't know if this will rise up past nothingburger status. It's not that I don't agree with the sentiment that Trump's financial dealings with various countries are a complete nightmare... but it's a nightmare that everyone already knows about.
As far as I can tell the investigation doesn't dive much deeper than publicly known business dealings and then presents a series of "what if" conjectures about how those dealings could have a major impact on a President Trump's policies.
This is a nothingburger.
User 463088
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We need to do something about the heroin problem.
Badly.
No mama. It's pop. That's one Ohioism that I never got rid of. I also say "fixin' to" and "warsh" because my family is all from West Virginia. And we're all a damn mess.
Badly.
No mama. It's pop.
That's one Ohioism that I never got rid of. I also say "fixin' to" and "warsh" because my family is all from West Virginia. And we're all a damn mess.It's soda, you heathen.
I wanted the Clinton campaign to take risks and they did that to some extent with the deplorable comment but now I see that regardless of what they do the people covering the election will find a way to criticize and turn it negative. They probably had the right idea to keep Clinton away from the limelight as much as possible. But then it turns into an unwinnable situation since she is not out there defending herself from a barage of lies and reflections.
FloydtheFathead
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No it's not.. You're wrong and that's all there is to it.
BenjaminBirdie
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Today is very carbonated in PoliGAF
Kyle Kondik from Sabato is going on a Tweet storm dissecting that OH poll. Basically just questioning the LV screening of +7 R in a more eloquent and informed fashion. Bringing Pew and Huffington Post's electorate ID projects now and compared to 2012 etc. Wraps up by wondering about D lack of enthusiasm.
Link: https://twitter.com/kkondik
Link: https://twitter.com/kkondik
gamechanger87
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Hillarys problem will continue to be turnout. She needs Obama turnout and his entire coalition. Unfortunately, she's divisive and is attempting to scare to populace with Trump to get Turn out up. Elections are about turnout and Hilllary has never been a natural and inspiring politician.
If the Democrats had nominated someone like Kaine this would be a landslide.
I mean... I kind of get that there are legitimate methodology questions, but part of me wonders of this is some form of just not trusting the polls and watching the aggregates. This kind of stuff scares me
nature boy
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Why's it got to be Kaine? Why can't it be Warren? Hmmmmm? Hmmmmmmmmm?
If Clinton loses in Ohio by 5, it's likely Michigan/Wisconsin are too close for comfort.
That's Nate Silver's problem with the Upshot/Princeton Elections Commission's models, they assume each state election is completely independent.
Deplorables comment needed to be said because it's a fact. I don't care if it's a slight negative against her. Clinton is going to lose with the media either way might as well do something to placate the base.
gamechanger87
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The lack of enthusiasm will be the biggest problem for Hillary. Anyone who just throws out a LV poll because the screening doesn't match the prior election which had different candidates is missing the entire point of LV screening. It doesn't matter if the RV poll says she's far ahead, if no one comes out to vote it doesn't matter.
gamechanger87
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Kaine would get the I vote and Repulicans who are only voting for Trump/Johnson because they despise Hillary.
Seriously this should have been the easiest layup of an election considering how the R primary process went, but here we sit with Donald actually having chance.
So you think AAs, latinos and all the other demos Clinton is winning won't turn out?
Is that impossible?
Cesare Borgia
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Honestly I think Hillary loses OH, wins NC.
Nothing is a slam dunk in a presidential election anymore, sorry fam. Trump's existence proves this.
I think so as well. If I had to predict how the 5 main "gray" states are going to go...
Clinton: FL, NV, NC
Trump: OH, IA
NYCmetsfan
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Trump has only run in a all white primary election
User 463088
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We, literally, just went through a primary when people were using this exact same logic to explain why Hillary wouldn't win. It was wrong then. It is wrong now. The most reliable voting block is black women. They're not going to just forget to turn out. We're not going to see Latino voters stay home because of Donald Trump. We're not going to see Democrats refuse to come out because, again, Donald Trump is a white nationalist. She has an extensive GOTV operation. It's well funded. It's well run. And it's about sixty times better than what Trump has.
So, ya, I think it's pretty damn near impossible.
It's going to be one of *those* days isn't it.
gamechanger87
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Add in the youth vote. No I don't think it's impossible. Her entire pitch to them is come out and vote because we don't want Donald. Not the most inspiring pitch.
Hillary has never been a motivating candidate towards her. Only away from her.
ADAM BROUGHT THE BLICKY OUT AND IT ISNT EVEN 830 AM YET
Ok I feel better, but also trust the polls
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Right, and I am fairly certain the debates are going to only make people want to vote even more.
YouGov is a credible poll that dropped a Clinton +7 in Ohio on Sunday.
Quinnipiac dropped polls at the same time last week including Trump +4 in OH and Clinton +4 in NC
Basically, I doubt OH is really leaning THAT far toward Trump anyway. And I don't think it's crazy to think that Clinton could lose OH and win NC given recent polling and especially with the large number of African Americans and college-educated whites in NC.
nature boy
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It would be pretty amazing if Trump wins Ohio with a poor ground game and no support from a popular governor.
Don't think that will happen though.
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