Abinash117
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Exactly and not to mention it will play into she'll say anything to get elected, some people who were desperate enough to suggest it were being ridiculous .
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT10| Jill Stein Inflatable Love Doll
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Exactly and not to mention it will play into she'll say anything to get elected, some people who were desperate enough to suggest it were being ridiculous .
I need a source. Please don't tell me he's that stupid?
Think it was on Fox and Friends. Said she was a nervous mess and that the crowd was chanting to let him speak. All of which of course is insane.
darkstar0155
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I would be willing to bet that the 3rd party candidate gets the most votes (as a percentage) that they have ever gotten in this election. I know many Obama voters here in Ohio that completely plan to vote for him, and unless Hillary makes a big change with these voters (only done with positive messaging) they will stay that way, and probably give ohio to trump.
TumblingHippo
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It must be so frustrating to be the Clinton campaign right now. Opponent can say all the most vile stuff but oh no, got sick and called out racists, and it's the worst weekend ever. To also try and show everything, reveal all records reasonably while your opponent just makes stuff up and gets away with it.
I feel like at this point it's the easier (and the cowards way out) to just accept Trump won until Nov. 8 says otherwise and be pleasantly surprised. Hope no one wanted to be optimistic about politics this year.
I feel like at this point it's the easier (and the cowards way out) to just accept Trump won until Nov. 8 says otherwise and be pleasantly surprised. Hope no one wanted to be optimistic about politics this year.
... That's kind of a big deal.
You'd like to think so. Anymore I'm not counting on it, though.
hammysaurusrex
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Maybe she can say she's going to legalize weed because it cured her seizures - then it looks less like pandering!
Just like his candidacy right. I can just see Speaker Ryan saying he doesn't agree but republicans must respect the president and the will of the people! And so many other spineless republicans jumping on that bandwagon
balladofwindfishes
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oh no, more office gossip from the DNC. How will she ever survive?
What an idiot. I mean this won't mean anything because the media is soft on Trump. But just take the high road man.
Tarkus
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We don't know if it's more from the DNC or her private server. He never mentioned the source.
shinra-bansho
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To be clear, we're talking about the highly credible alleged sex offender overstaying his welcome embassy withholding details of Russian-Syrian bank transactions? He's going to become one of the Second Amendment people?
balladofwindfishes
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He has nothing. He's a disgusting little troll going insane from being trapped in a room for several years.
Abinash117
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...o-give-speech-on-lifting-up-children-families
Looks like she run a positive message for a bit those that were complaining .
Looks like she run a positive message for a bit those that were complaining .
darkstar0155
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Good, the negative ads have done their job. She now needs to get people to WANT to vote for her. A positive message and focusing on a uplifting message will help that and give people a more positive impression of her.
Cesare Borgia
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(In his mind) she embarrassed him and exerted dominance over him by interrupting and altering his speech. And just as when anyone else does this to him, he lashes out. Trump remains Trump. The key is to continually force Trump to be Trump because he can't help it, instead of this reserved Trump we've seen recently.
shinra-bansho
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I think you underestimate the power of bitch eating crackers syndrome.
balladofwindfishes
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Obama, the political hype man, will help a lot. And unlike Hillary, the media cannot ignore the president when he talks.
darkstar0155
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I honestly don't know what this means lol.
That it definitely can. Any largely positive message from the dems can help at this point.
Hillary needs to cut a few ads with Obama and Bernie making direct, positive pitches for Clinton based on her policy and character. The Dems have star firepower that absolutely paid off during the Dem convention and they need to bust it out widescale again.
Also, Clinton can get her positive message covered by doing two things: announcing new policy and campaigning with high profile surrogates. With regards to marijuana decriminalization, I think she should do it because it's the right policy and it'd get a broader speech in the news, not because it'd pander to young voters. Throw it into a broad policy speech about criminal justice reform. She should always have a couple of joint campaign events each week with either Obama, Biden, Michelle, Warren, Bernie or superstar surrogates like Beyonce and Oprah. That shit will break through and it can all be positive.
Also, Clinton can get her positive message covered by doing two things: announcing new policy and campaigning with high profile surrogates. With regards to marijuana decriminalization, I think she should do it because it's the right policy and it'd get a broader speech in the news, not because it'd pander to young voters. Throw it into a broad policy speech about criminal justice reform. She should always have a couple of joint campaign events each week with either Obama, Biden, Michelle, Warren, Bernie or superstar surrogates like Beyonce and Oprah. That shit will break through and it can all be positive.
Dubbedinenglish
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"Well, I was in Flint yesterday and it was a very interesting experience and got unbelievably good treatment from people, I must say, and even in that audience, the treatment was great
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"I mean, everyone plays their games. It doesn't bother me. I'll tell you what made me feel good, the audience was saying let him speak, let him speak, and the audience was so great and these are mostly African-American people,..."
Least racist person you'll ever meet y'all.
Because it's nothing. It's a joke.
nature boy
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TX Poll
LV
Trump 39
Hillary 32
RV
Hillary 39
Trump 35
Obama Fav: 56
http://www.texaslyceum.org/resources/Pictures/2016 Texas Lyceum Poll Day Two press release.pdf
LV
Trump 39
Hillary 32
RV
Hillary 39
Trump 35
Obama Fav: 56
http://www.texaslyceum.org/resources/Pictures/2016 Texas Lyceum Poll Day Two press release.pdf
Um, Without wanting to sound insulting I think you need to go check up on some previous election results.
Perot got 18% of the vote in 1992. Wallace got 13% of ther vote in 68. College got 16% in 24. Roosevelt got 27% in 1912 (and got more votes than the Republican Party!).
The system doesn't change because ther system is built around and for two parties - no voting at the presidential level will ever change that fundamental fact. And there is absolutely no way on heaven hell or earth that Johnson or Stein approaches the numbers above - they would even hit 5% on the day.
Pffff oh wow, that swing between RVs and LVs
Hydrophobic
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balladofwindfishes
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Now see, I look at this and wonder how in the world is the race so close on a national level.
In no way can Hillary only be down 7 in Texas and only be +2 nationally. 7 is less than half of what Romney did in 2012 (16%).
I don't believe for one moment that Obama's approval rating is higher in Texas than it is in Ohio and Florida.
Something is off.
darkstar0155
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Maybe I should have said recent elections. I still feel that Johnson this year will get many more votes than people are thinking this year, unless Hillary switches of too a much more positive message.
balladofwindfishes
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The poll was offered in Spanish, would that effect it? There's no numbers given beyond this
Also a decent chunk of the poll was done via cell phone. Date range includes both deplorables and illness.
Is there a ticking time bomb of Hispanic support for Hillary that just isn't being polled enough due to the language barrier?
Nazgul_Hunter
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Whoa. How can Democrats get people out to vote? Seems like one of the biggest reasons Dems aren't competitive in TX is because they think they can't be.
Cesare Borgia
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Wait wut
He also brings up reality's liberal bias and invokes Benghazi because of course he does:
At this point I'm just going to be annoyed that Cosmo isn't conducting every interview with the Trump kids.
Veritigo_X
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A lot of young people seem legitimately confused about this election. I've heard a surprising number of people talk about how they're voting for Bernie in the GE since he's an Independent or that he's running a write-in campaign or whatever they heard in a fever dream the night before.
This type of confusion usually isn't a problem with young people because they're generally okay with voting for the dem candidate, but for whatever reason we've got people not really tuned in with politics straight up dreaming alternatives to voting for Hillary.
This type of confusion usually isn't a problem with young people because they're generally okay with voting for the dem candidate, but for whatever reason we've got people not really tuned in with politics straight up dreaming alternatives to voting for Hillary.
I've wondered about Spanish-speaking voters being underrepresented (especially in certain states' polls), but that's someone we won't get a conclusion on until maybe after Election Day.
This is just nuts. I thought 2012's polls were all over the place, but this year's is even crazier. There's something for everyone to enjoy, or to puzzle over.
Also: Bernie and Warren are blitzing Ohio soon.
User 463088
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You mean inbetween hacking herself to death and fainting, right?
nature boy
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Brutal.
Looks like the Trump pastor comments are gaining some traction.
balladofwindfishes
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Just this week we had two Ohio polls, one showed Hillary +7 (YouGov), then the next day, another showed Trump +5 (CNN).
Weird polling all around. Even the primary polls seemed kind of off this year.
Good. Trump gets hurt VERY badly when he starts harassing minority civilians
PlayALLtheGames
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I really wanted to believe Ivanka was a good person and not like her dad, and maybe deep-down she is, but after seeing her constantly lie these recent weeks I think it's more likely she is just another Trump; a shameless, lying, ignorant clown living in a fantasy world. Hard to avoid when you grow up as a Trump, I guess.
Abinash117
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Why is the race this close anyway? For someone that is liberal; this should be a slam dunk considering that Trump is basically is a racist.
I guess, is that an overwhelming of white Americans whom are Republican, so for some reason they have to vote for a Republican even if they don't want to. Young Americans regardless, of race are apolitical and aren't excited as they were for Obama; they don't really like either candidate, but slightly prefer Hillary( mostly from minorities and mainly liberal white Americans). Minorities largely disapprove of Trump, probably some of the reasons he is stuck in the low 40s and high 30s.
The support for Clinton does not seem to have a rigged ceiling like Trump as it can be from 40-50+, but the support largely comes from people voting against Trump and not necessary for Hillary. If Hillary has a really bad week her support drops a lot, but it might recover. Donald Trump''s support has good and bad qualities it is very rigged not really pushing through from the low 40s and high 30s, but he can say stupid shit, but not lose support much because around 38ish - 42ish will continue to support him. Attacks on his racism and bigotry works, but it does not give much reason to support Hillary for some.
But it is interesting that Trump is down in nearly ALL demographics. I wonder if polls are now just more to do with general support, not necessary intention of who they will vote for( Johnson is not going to get like 13%), it might explain why Hillary swings from low-mid 40s to high 40s( in H2H at least).
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