balladofwindfishes
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It's too bad I wasn't around PoliGaf to see this thread when this headline came out
"Romney opens up 7 point lead over Obama"
"Romney opens up 7 point lead over Obama"
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT10| Jill Stein Inflatable Love Doll
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i was, and it was just as insufferable to read as it is right now
At least the good thing is trump has never lead in literally 99% of the national polling aggregates or EV simulators. It's worrying that Hilary is not beating him by a considerable margin in national polls right now, but at the same time trump never seems to get enough momentum to lead nationally unlike Stephen Harper and the CPC in last years federal election in Canada who were leading at points nationally slightly but ended up losing by a considerable margin.
Yup.
I just can't see Iowa swinging that far away that fast... though I do think it's been tie worthy with a trump lean... a few point trump lead wouldn't shock me.
Overall I'm concerned about Iowa and Ohio. Which feels odd to say because NC feels more plausible with all of the state issues. Ohio has become more republican friendly since 2012 though. Obama and Hillary need to hit Ohio.
As much as I want to worry about Nevada too, i can't see turnout being that low for Clinton where it counts.
The swings so far seem to be localized with a reason.
Seeing the few red states still hold close for Clinton, shows there's a large part of the electorate still voting against the idea of trump.
Hillary is obviously having a bigger than thought struggle with rural and some white suburbs. some voting blocks are going home to the republican and will present a challenge for her.
Overall I'm concerned about Iowa and Ohio. Which feels odd to say because NC feels more plausible with all of the state issues. Ohio has become more republican friendly since 2012 though. Obama and Hillary need to hit Ohio.
As much as I want to worry about Nevada too, i can't see turnout being that low for Clinton where it counts.
The swings so far seem to be localized with a reason.
Seeing the few red states still hold close for Clinton, shows there's a large part of the electorate still voting against the idea of trump.
Hillary is obviously having a bigger than thought struggle with rural and some white suburbs. some voting blocks are going home to the republican and will present a challenge for her.
OK, I now believe that Clinton's 'deplorable' comment was a miscalculation. It didn't help to rally her base, instead it made orange turd's base more enthusiastic for supporting their conman.
At this point I really don't know what the Clinton campaign can do. They are facing the most unqualified person running for the most powerful job in the world and many still don't care. I doubt the debates will change anyone's mind.
At this point I really don't know what the Clinton campaign can do. They are facing the most unqualified person running for the most powerful job in the world and many still don't care. I doubt the debates will change anyone's mind.
Aaron Strife
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I agree.
Clinton has let things get away from her, but not to a point where I think she's actually losing. If the election were held today I think her firewall would hold pretty well and she'd win a few states besides (NV, NC, FL).
I think she'll turn this around and open up a firm lead post-debates.
Ziltoidia 9
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One things the debates will do is show people she is "OK". That is already a win for her on it. The other part is making Trump look stupid. Non of the RNC people were able to do that...obviously stupid cant make stupid look stupid...but hey, its still a code that hasn't been cracked. Well, I take it back, most of the country knows him to be basically horrible on the issues. I do, though, think he probably has a lot more prep down for it now though. He either though will keep the same style, or he was just watering it down for the dumb RNC debates.
Or, the debates will just be Punk vs Gall.
Or, the debates will just be Punk vs Gall.
This.
Liberals don't really have experience playing with the big stack at the table, and it shows.
I don't think more rallies are the cause of anything.
Trump always held more rallies since the start of this whole thing and it never truly helped him.
Last week Clinton was doing great. With the press and more visible. Unfortunately health issues sidetracked her for a few days. This weekend she needs to make herself as visible as possible.
Trump always held more rallies since the start of this whole thing and it never truly helped him.
Last week Clinton was doing great. With the press and more visible. Unfortunately health issues sidetracked her for a few days. This weekend she needs to make herself as visible as possible.
Aaron Strife
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Who wants to see a good poll?
http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/dccc-poll-shows-tightening-race-minnesotas-3rd-district
Terri Bonoff (D) leading Rep. Erik Paulsen (R) 40-38 in a poll commissioned by the DCCC.
Lots of undecideds but the DCCC mentioned her numbers turned around after releasing an ad that tied Paulsen to Trump and that Dems lead the generic ballot here by 9.
Paulsen came out with a poll that had him up 26 which seemed too gaudy to be true, although I was still picturing a 10-point race or so. Come on Terri!
http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/dccc-poll-shows-tightening-race-minnesotas-3rd-district
Terri Bonoff (D) leading Rep. Erik Paulsen (R) 40-38 in a poll commissioned by the DCCC.
Lots of undecideds but the DCCC mentioned her numbers turned around after releasing an ad that tied Paulsen to Trump and that Dems lead the generic ballot here by 9.
Paulsen came out with a poll that had him up 26 which seemed too gaudy to be true, although I was still picturing a 10-point race or so. Come on Terri!
What does this even mean? Is it the 80s?
Also disagree that the Trump rallies alone helped him earlier on. Mostly it was virtually all the media across the board airing his rallies live free of commentary that did more to push him.
Are they helping him as much now? Eh. I don't see them in particular as being the drivers for his bumps as much as Clinton tumbling this week herself.
Are they helping him as much now? Eh. I don't see them in particular as being the drivers for his bumps as much as Clinton tumbling this week herself.
NYCmetsfan
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What did he post that you guys were talking about?
Ignatz Mouse
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Sidebar from the panicking (won't use that one term):
Ever since Bannon came on board, notice the lack of inside scuttlebutt? Either some leakers got fired, or got scared.
Also, Trump's been waaaay better about making attacks that land as opposed to casting about.
I think despite being a huge negative himself, Bannon can be credited for whatever success Trump is having right now. And I hate that.
Ever since Bannon came on board, notice the lack of inside scuttlebutt? Either some leakers got fired, or got scared.
Also, Trump's been waaaay better about making attacks that land as opposed to casting about.
I think despite being a huge negative himself, Bannon can be credited for whatever success Trump is having right now. And I hate that.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Trump's hatred of the environmental and farm regulations is just legendary:
He's a true Republican with this simply nuclear take.
He's a true Republican with this simply nuclear take.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This is complete foolishness. You better believe Hillary's team isn't thinking this way right now, and neither should voters.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Ailes, Bannon, and Conway all came on at the same time so it's hard to tell which one made the difference.
Of course, all three are the worst people in the world.
I'm gonna guess Conway. I don't see those 2 guys keeping him quiet during the health days.
To above: i know the phrase. I don't get its meaning here. The party that won 4/6 of the last Presidentials does know how to play.
nature boy
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DAT Kander ad.
Finale Fireworker
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You can start calling it "Fireworking" then because I haven't been able to eat since Tuesday.
BlastProcessing
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davepoobond
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this camera set up at this Trump economic question-taking thing is hilarious with a disembodied Mike Pence bust having reactions
Trump doing a Q&A at the Economic Club of New York. They ask him about how he'd make staffing decisions in the government and after rambling about how you'd hire the same way you do a business, he moves on to how we're too PC and then how this is the last election ever/Supreme Court/we're gonna be Venezuela, and now he's talking about rally crowd sizes.
Watching him answer a simple direct question is the best reason for why debates with him need a moderator.
He's now turning a question about which industries would benefit from his economic policies into a rant about ISIS killing people and waterboarding.
Edit: Asked what he'd want the Fed to do with interest rates, just bitches about how Obama has politicized the Fed and they're keeping interest rates low for political reasons.
He answered like... zero of the questions they asked that I watched.
Watching him answer a simple direct question is the best reason for why debates with him need a moderator.
He's now turning a question about which industries would benefit from his economic policies into a rant about ISIS killing people and waterboarding.
Edit: Asked what he'd want the Fed to do with interest rates, just bitches about how Obama has politicized the Fed and they're keeping interest rates low for political reasons.
He answered like... zero of the questions they asked that I watched.
AntraxSuicide
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She should do like 6 a day! Plus weekends!
Ain't it something?
Same. I really am so thankful I wasn't in this thread for the 2012 election. Christ that would be so annoying.
Joe Shlabotnik
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I think Conway is just Surrogate Prime and doesn't really manage the campaign as such.
Harry Reid unloaded on Trump today.
"Trump is a human leech who will bleed the country and sit at his golf resort laughing at the money he has made, even though working people have been hurt and ruined."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/polit...p-human-leech0436PMVODtopLink&linkId=28827977
"Trump is a human leech who will bleed the country and sit at his golf resort laughing at the money he has made, even though working people have been hurt and ruined."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/polit...p-human-leech0436PMVODtopLink&linkId=28827977
Trump's hatred of the environmental and farm regulations is just legendary:
He's a true Republican with this simply nuclear take.
Coal is already a dead technology anyways, no banks in the US are currently not making new coal investments going forward.
Ignatz Mouse
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That's my impression too.
At least 2012 had chillthefuckoutIgotthis.jpg.
Y'all got NOTHING this time.
balladofwindfishes
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I think people are on edge because the stakes in this election are the highest they've ever been in our life time. We're looking at potentially the single worst disaster of a presidency this country has ever had. On top of him winning validating white supremacists and setting back racial issues by generations. We're looking at people's lives being turned upside down. Their marriage invalidated. Their children taken away. There's also a unique opportunity this time around to really make a difference in the Supreme Court.
It's also hard to settle down from going from +8, and talking about hard red states being in play, to +2 with the potential to actually lose a couple swing states.
The Supreme Court is no joke. I'm reading this book right now, which details a supposedly uneventful conservative Supreme Court, but with just small rulings they were able to completely eviscerate defendant protections under the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments as well as completely change the path of equal opportunities in schooling post Brown v Board that are still broken to this day.
All that and I'm only half way through the book.
Clinton Supreme Court will likely balance the scales again on things like Roe v Wade and the Voting Rights Act that have been disrupted during Scalia's tenure.
NYCmetsfan
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and glenn wonders why his policies are never enacted
Also, Jacobin throws minorities under the bus example #45
and glenn wonders why his policies are never enacted
Also, Jacobin throws minorities under the bus example #45
ItWasMeantToBe19
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https://twitter.com/seanspicer/status/776442644637609984
The RNC is not condemning Trump Jr. making a Holocaust joke and is linking to it.
The RNC is not condemning Trump Jr. making a Holocaust joke and is linking to it.
Dubbedinenglish
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I that "gas chamber" Jr quote getting reactions? I'd hope her campaign already put out a response.
I'm more offended by the fact that he thinks the media is proping up Clinton.
nature boy
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Damn, that Kander ad I straight fire. That is the way you sell background checks to American's writ large (even though they already have massive support in the country).
The Clinton campaign needs to cut ads with Bernie and Obama with them talking to the camera about why they support Clinton. Have Bernie say he supports Clinton because they worked together on a debt free college plan, will fight for single payer healthcare, and opposes the TPP.
The Clinton campaign needs to cut ads with Bernie and Obama with them talking to the camera about why they support Clinton. Have Bernie say he supports Clinton because they worked together on a debt free college plan, will fight for single payer healthcare, and opposes the TPP.
tedrotheredro
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Deplorables comment uniting republicans. "We're not deplorables! We'll show you by voting for a deplorable person!". She needs to attack the mindset and alt-right, but never his main voting base. It may be true, but it's overgeneralized and offensive. It's a 47% comment.
Meanwhile, democrats are asleep still yammering about Bernie this and terrible candidate that, with no real reasoning for their stance. When polls look bleak and the debates show her resilience and his ineptitude, I think the attitude will change (for the most part).
If the polls are like this 2-3 weeks out from the election, it's time to panic. For now, just settle into the swings promulgated by the media for those sweet clicks.
Meanwhile, democrats are asleep still yammering about Bernie this and terrible candidate that, with no real reasoning for their stance. When polls look bleak and the debates show her resilience and his ineptitude, I think the attitude will change (for the most part).
If the polls are like this 2-3 weeks out from the election, it's time to panic. For now, just settle into the swings promulgated by the media for those sweet clicks.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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+17 for Chuck, showing that liberals just aren't interested right now :/
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