I mean, they opened up a campaign office here in Utah too. I visited it during the opening. It was 90 degrees outside and the air conditioning didn't work. They don't see any opportunity here or in SC.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT10| Jill Stein Inflatable Love Doll
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I mean, they opened up a campaign office here in Utah too. I visited it during the opening. It was 90 degrees outside and the air conditioning didn't work. They don't see any opportunity here or in SC.
TheLostBigBoss
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The media got got by Trump and Trump dealt with a full on revolt from the media
Shhh let people believe she's running a great campaign. It brings comfort.
Anyway, was there really a poll with her losing by 6 points nationally? Trump probably spewing bullshit as usual.
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She's barely outpacing Donald Trump and had a close primary encounter with an independent Jewish socialist. I'm not sure her campaign does know what they're doing. As attractive as adam might find Mook, he's not filling me with confidence.
whyamihere
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The reason they have an office in Utah is in case Johnson/McMullin cut into Trump's margins and they need to take advantage of that and need the infrastructure already there.
Aaron Strife
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Also Clinton's campaign is flush with cash and probably at or near saturation point in OH, FL, NC etc. By this point there really isn't anything else the Clinton camp can do in those states other than keep it up and hope national trends are good. Might as well invest some of their excess gobs of money into flippable red states, especially states like Georgia and South Carolina that could turn blue eventually.
jack_package_200
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excelsiorlef
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Oh come on close primary? It was done after South Carolina for god sakes. Sanders was never close. Clinton gpt the third highest number of primary votes in Dem history
Hobbestetrician
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Nah
Again lol no.
On the subject of campaign offices and ground game and you know, fucking numbers, she is the only one using them to drive a strategy.
She wouldn't open a campaign office for the fun of cutting a ribbon. It might mean they want to drive turnout for candidates in the area, or make a push for the state, or establish infrastructure for future elections, but Clinton wouldn't open an office to burn money. Your assertion is facile.
Edit: Whatever, the conversation is pointless
Aaron Strife
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You're right, if only they had reserved more adspace in Ohio.
whyamihere
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Oh he's not reading from his prompter.
TheLostBigBoss
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For all intents and purposes, she dominated Sanders in the primary. It wasn't close, Sanders simply extended the life of it far greater than needed and had to deal with the little monsters he created at the DNC as a result.
I don't think there is a single point in time in the GE where she hasn't been leading. She had a single bad week recently with the entire medical fiasco, and guess what, just like the email stuff, it's going to fade and her numbers will rise as Trump stagnates like always.
Officerrob
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Yep, a campaign that is so incompetent that Hillary and all her geniuses are bleeding percentage points daily. Lets be honest for a minute here, the Dems have a massive electoral college advantage, and Hillary is likely to barely squeak by. I'm not impressed.
There's no universe where the primary was close, be real.
whyamihere
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eBay Huckster
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there's also no universe where 3% of the general electorate during her worst week is "barely outpacing"
metalslimer
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Seriously. For better or worse no matter what your opinion is Clinton is the nominee.
jack_package_200
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Absolutely. I mean, the problem everyone (not this thread, I just mean in general) seems to have this week is that she's spent too much time attacking Trump. He's a dumpster fire, and everyone except his supporters gets that so she doesn't really need to pour gasoline on it.
I saw an official Hillary ad last night where she just ran soundbites of Republicans talking about how awful he is, but I'm fairly comfortable saying that the ones who could be swayed already know that, and that sort of thing has no effect on those already committed. The people on the fence need to hear policy and positivity, they don't need to be reminded once again how bad Trump is and they certainly don't need to be accidentally tossed into any baskets by association.
whyamihere
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There is a speech, but he's veering off of it.
Yes. And he went to Ivy League school.
User 463088
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Considering you think her win over Bernie was a "close primary" maybe Daddy Mook doesn't much worry about our confidence?
You might want to be kind to Crab who I believe is from the UK, and we all know what happened back in June with the Referendum.
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No, but let's do the timewarp again: it's 2014, and I tell you "an independent Jewish socialist over the age of 70 from Vermont is going to run in the Democrat primary against Clinton. What percentage of the vote do you think he'll get?"; if you try and tell me now you wouldn't have said "5%, tops", you're lying. Instead he took 40%.
If at the same time, I told you that her presidential opponent was going to be someone with heavy neo-Nazi associations who would talk about the size of his penis on a national debate stage and went bankrupt four times, and asked you how much she'd win by, you'd probably have said Goldwater margins. Instead, she's barely outpacing him.
When you step away from these races for a moment, and examine them for what they are, Clinton is doing incredibly poorly. Thankfully the quality of her opposition means that is still most likely going to end in a win.
whyamihere
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So Trump just said that Hillary's body guards should drop their weapons and "we'll see what happens."
Plinko
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It hasn't been a "five day snapshot." Trump has been gaining and Hillary losing voters for a month now.
I don't see it. I really, really hope so, but I don't see it. No campaign that knows what they're doing plans a month like Hillary's August. Hopefully it was just a blip and today's idiotic move by Trump finally turns the media against him.
TheLostBigBoss
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So if you take stuff out of context, re-contextualize it, and put it in a specific framework, it was a photo finish!
User 463088
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Also, i don't like the continued emphasis on the word Jewish. Feels icky.
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I'm emphasizing it because it is icky to a huge part of the American electorate. Are we suddenly pretending that there isn't a significant layer of anti-semitism in the American electorate that represents a significant impediment to office for any Jewish candidate?
eBay Huckster
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hypothetical 2016 me goes back in time to 2014 and tells 2014 me that sanders is the only one other than clinton with serious campaign infrastructure, i actually would've guessed around 25% (because a more popular obama still had 11% worth of protest votes arrayed against him and clinton didn't have the advantage of incumbency)
more importantly, hypothetical 2016 me goes back in time to 2014, 2014 me will guess that clinton wins by a decently large margin
RustyNails
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Offscript Trump delivers.
That wasn't what he was saying at all. He was saying that Bernie did incredibly well, considering the circumstances. Which means America is ready for actual change. I mean, it's hard to argue that this hasn't been a populist-centered presidential race so far. If Bernie had been the nominee instead of Hillary then this probably wouldn't have even been a close race. It's hard to admit, but it's true.
Can't watch. What happens
eBay Huckster
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he did incredibly well
he also still lost by a lot
end of goddamn story, now let's shut the fuck up with splitting hairs about a race that ended four months ago
he also still lost by a lot
end of goddamn story, now let's shut the fuck up with splitting hairs about a race that ended four months ago
jack_package_200
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Gimme those details. What did he say?
Randolph Freelander
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This guy simply must not win.
What did Orange Man say?
Seriously, a guy with the name Wolf Blitzer should be the toughest interview on TV.
TheLostBigBoss
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Yes, America is so ready for "change" that he failed to win the primary.
You know what, I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to mull over this shit months after we finally ended it.
NYCmetsfan
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it is. stop doing it.
imagine saying
"hillary clinton got beat by a black guy!"
It implies jewish candidates can't do well
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