It did catch a lot of people by surprise, though I think in the end it speaks more to the dynamics of an empty field than to Clintons weaknesses. Like, if 2012 was ron Paul vs mitt Romney, instead of a big field, Paul would have received way more votes than otherwise. The early branding of the primary as a boxing match by the media does a lot to legitimize the underdog and let them get airtime. Similarly, if you had Biden and Deval Patrick and Tim Kaine and a Castro brother in the primary, Bernie wouldn't have performed like he did.
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It did catch a lot of people by surprise, though I think in the end it speaks more to the dynamics of an empty field than to Clintons weaknesses. Like, if 2012 was ron Paul vs mitt Romney, instead of a big field, Paul would have received way more votes than otherwise. The early branding of the primary as a boxing match by the media does a lot to legitimize the underdog and let them get airtime. Similarly, if you had Biden and Deval Patrick and Tim Kaine and a Castro brother in the primary, Bernie wouldn't have performed like he did.
AntraxSuicide
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Plz ban.
And I like that Clinton is spending from the war chest for the future. Obama built the coalition, Hillary can build the network that turns out the coalition.
Dominican Power
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Trump is so full of shit. He didn't even apologize.
PlayALLtheGames
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Just saw the comment about, "Take their guns away...let's see what happens to her."
Such a worthless human being.
Such a worthless human being.
BlastProcessing
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So is Trump's new allusion to Clinton's assassination (take away her secret services guns and see what happens) an attempt to force the media to move on from birtherism?
Giving him way to much credit.
Hobbestetrician
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And right on cue Jeffrey Lord is defending him. "The reaction to this is elitist."
Knuckle Sandwich
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I think he's just a dumbfuck.
Dominican Power
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All of The Golf states are a drain.
Very interesting.
Net-favorability among under-30s
+39 Michelle Obama
+37 Bernie Sanders
+35 Barack Obama
0 Hillary Clinton
-46 Donald Trump
(courtest of @WilliamJordann & @YouGov)
I love the idea of seeing Michelle Obama all over the map for the next six weeks..
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Bernie's coming up on Chris Hayes' program.
Net-favorability among under-30s
+39 Michelle Obama
+37 Bernie Sanders
+35 Barack Obama
0 Hillary Clinton
-46 Donald Trump
(courtest of @WilliamJordann & @YouGov)
I love the idea of seeing Michelle Obama all over the map for the next six weeks..
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Bernie's coming up on Chris Hayes' program.
Woof. I'll take the break even, way better than I thought it would be.
DrForester
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I think he's learned that creating a new controversy every day means nothing will linger long enough to stick.
For those keeping score at home:
Daniel Dale ‏@ddale8 7m7 minutes ago
Donald Trump just did a speech in Miami. He said eight false things.
Someone needs to spam this shit to cnn/msnbc to make them talk about it
Dubbedinenglish
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I posted in the OT thread but wasn't the previous assassination remark (can't believe I have to type that) during the Khantroversy?
Michelle needs to get on a humanitarian project stat.
That level is likeable is huge for a first lady.
You should have seen reince preibus's response after trump made that comment.
balladofwindfishes
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Wasn't it before? I think Khan took away the attention from it iirc.
Honestly 0 net favorability is an improvement for Clinton
BlastProcessing
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Trump is a dumbfuck, Bossie, Bannon and Ailes not so much.
Forcing the media to jump from controversy to controversy has benefited Trump in the past. I don't think it's too out of left field to think that his handlers would suggest it.
minor effort
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It's kind of easy to maintain favorability after being out of the race for three months and away from making tough campaign decisions, and far away from being the target of campaign attacks. I'm still seeing this touted as a reason why the corrupt Dems should totally replace Hillary with Bernie. The favorability!
shinra-bansho
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I'm surprised she's at breakeven.
Also, what the what. Why are there pages on the primary. Move on. Weirdos.
Also, what the what. Why are there pages on the primary. Move on. Weirdos.
Spoiled Milk
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If you haven't figured out yet that shinra is kev's poorly disguised alt, you haven't been paying attention.
nature boy
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I tend to think he's like a Master Jedi who just calms everyone. Favreau and Pfeiffer sure as hell can't.
MHWilliams
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Keeping It 1600 is one of my favorites, though they are sometimes too far in in Clinton's tank. (They acknowledge this.)
I also do the Run-Up and NPR Politics, though Sam Sanders occasionally gets my dander up.
Any other solid politics podcasts out there?
shinra-bansho
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Maybe if Hillary has a perfect day and learns to play the piano, sculpt ice, speak french and win over Andie MacDowell, the infinite loop ends and we never have to hear about sad Birdies again.
nature boy
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Radio Free GOP, Pollsters, Axe Files if you can live with Axelrod.
Joe Molotov
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TL;DR Trump: "It's Friday, you ain't got no job, you ain't got shit to do."
Aaron Strife
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Yes, I'm sure the person in charge of the T-shirts is in charge of the analytics and where to buy ad space as well."Clinton's campaign is very data driven and this is a good thing". Yes, the same campaign that did
must have flawless judgement
You are being deliberately obtuse.
No she doesn't.
She has enough ad time and offices in those states. There is a point of diminishing returns.
Deliberately obtuse? More like I'm trying to suggest that HRC's campaign isn't perfect. Why should we expect it to be? Campaigning in SC doesn't seem like the smartest idea in the world, but who knows, maybe Hillary's playing some interdimensional backgammon here.
nature boy
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As Aaron said, OH and FL aren't lacking resources, so pumping more money and resources yields less returns compared to other states.
SC wouldn't be the obvious choice, I would think AZ would take priority, but hey they know what they're doing.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Spoiled Milk
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Actually, she should be quadrupling her money there. Do you really want to lose?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwOhqGhP-mk
aspiegamer
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It was awesome of Trump do screw up this badly on a Friday so that this will be at the front of the news all weekend! The Sunday morning shows should be a hoot.
Would love to know who decided today was a good opportunity for the birther statement. Seriously. Even by bizzaro alt-right media I don't see how this could possibly be advantageous. To a degree it makes sense in the context that the media never calls Trump out for any of his bullshit. Inexplicably they're all proud to say that his Clinton claim is false! There's probably an interesting story somewhere on media dynamics that made today the day seemingly everyone snapped. But even so, an assumption of getting a pass doesn't explain the timing. Not having surrogates prepped for talking points is also odd.
Making this big a deal of it only 10 days out almost assures it'll come up in the first debate, too. I look forward to seeing Trump try to explain saying a thing that has been universally fact-checked as completely false by every reputable news agency on the planet.
Didn't know that Trump was unironically addressing his crowds as Deplorables. His supporters say that and give zero fucks about their prejudices, sure, but the actual candidate saying it? Does he know what that word means?
Would love to know who decided today was a good opportunity for the birther statement. Seriously. Even by bizzaro alt-right media I don't see how this could possibly be advantageous. To a degree it makes sense in the context that the media never calls Trump out for any of his bullshit. Inexplicably they're all proud to say that his Clinton claim is false! There's probably an interesting story somewhere on media dynamics that made today the day seemingly everyone snapped. But even so, an assumption of getting a pass doesn't explain the timing. Not having surrogates prepped for talking points is also odd.
Making this big a deal of it only 10 days out almost assures it'll come up in the first debate, too. I look forward to seeing Trump try to explain saying a thing that has been universally fact-checked as completely false by every reputable news agency on the planet.
Didn't know that Trump was unironically addressing his crowds as Deplorables. His supporters say that and give zero fucks about their prejudices, sure, but the actual candidate saying it? Does he know what that word means?
Which episode you listening to?
balladofwindfishes
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What was the previous poll?
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