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PoliGAF 2016 |OT11| Well this is exciting
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Joe Shlabotnik
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Aaron Strife
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That seems charitable to Bill Cole.
I figure Donald will start off calm, but he's entirely uninteresting when he's calm. I feel he'll start to ramble as well when he has no idea what he's talking about.
That might be enough for the media but then it becomes her schooling him on substance. If Trump can't yell with cheers in the background he looks silly. We'll see though.
That might be enough for the media but then it becomes her schooling him on substance. If Trump can't yell with cheers in the background he looks silly. We'll see though.
nature boy
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Kinda bizarre to have such a poll dump on the day of the 1st debate, if the "debates are the main event of the campaign".
Hope this thread doesn't become a play-by-play of the debate.
Hope this thread doesn't become a play-by-play of the debate.
Probably the most seen polls of the year. Everybody got a little something.
Hillary will also immediately start to intimidate him, either by what she's wearing, her smile, her calling him "Donald", a firm handshake, etc. A confident adversary really unnerves Trump. He usually goes to the jugular to throw off a male's confidence, but he won't know what to do with HIllary.
RustyNails
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Definitely starts as lowkey Trump. Mark it.
He will be talking slow, repeat lines, and say empty things like "we have to do something. We have to. We just have to do something" and run out the clock. The facade will quickly falter though.
BenjaminBirdie
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Literally how could it not.
Ignatz Mouse
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Maybe posters want a "before" snapshot.
whyamihere
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RustyNails
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Has Punished Nate responded to Targetsmart OH poll?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Fantastic Ohio poll!
As for the debate tonight, I think being worried about Trump's performance is acceptable. His team probably knows his main goal here is to appear presidential and a solid leader. Wouldn't surprise me at all for him to be calm the entire way through and perhaps even completely polite, cordial, and complimentary with Hillary.
As for the debate tonight, I think being worried about Trump's performance is acceptable. His team probably knows his main goal here is to appear presidential and a solid leader. Wouldn't surprise me at all for him to be calm the entire way through and perhaps even completely polite, cordial, and complimentary with Hillary.
This video of Tiffany Trump reading a fundraising email is weirdly creepy. Also odd they are breaking Tiffany out all of a sudden.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/780465115531386880
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/780465115531386880
How is he going to be completely polite and cordial when his entire campaign has rested upon calling Hillary the founder of ISIS and otherwise a complete disaster for the country?
It's just surprising to me because NH has always been the swing state of New England but it seems solidly blue this cycle.
Release the TRUMPS!
Shows they're worried with young voters? Almost none of them seem to be breaking Trump's way.
Trump just realized he had a second daughter.
davepoobond
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I didnt know she existed. There are so many of these people you really have to wonder why they never did a Kardashian-style show on them.
Maybe it'll happen anyway
whyamihere
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Because NH is a lot more highly educated than Maine is, has a higher % of people moving into the state (job growth), and is much less evangelical than Maine (which has the highest evangelic pop in New England).
Ignatz Mouse
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Finally read that whole Sam Wang post, and that's sorta what I was saying today also. it doesn't matter if Trump wins on low expectations, people will pick the stronger candidate, and that's almost certainly going to be Clinton on stage tonight.
Aaron Strife
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I hope it does. I'm missing it live.
She actually put out a single a while back.
RustyNails
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Huffpo Pollster team has a story out on this. Trump actually has higher expectations than previous "underdogs", and Hillary has lower expectations than others who were leading. Hillary-Trump spread is smaller than previous matchups.
ARG is the worse. And Gravis isn't so much, but none of these two are quality polls.
But, well, TRENDZ.
nature boy
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There's the debate OT for that.
This ^^^
The ABC/WaPo poll Saturday night had this too. Expectations for Hillary are actually lower than usual for an incumbent party candidate and Trump's are higher than Romney's.
RustyNails
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He actually purchased an old ass laptop late in the primary and was posting from it.
Aaron Strife
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I trust PoliGAF far more than OT.
New Hampshire is culturally on a different planet than Maine.
Maine is the fucking untamed wilderness. The only reason it's blue is that most of the state is so sparsely populated that the tiny handful of "cities" overwhelm the rest.
I haven't read the story, but have long thought that a man who is the epitome of boastfulness and braggadocio shouldn't get to benefit from low expectations. Everything he does is "the best," "the greatest," "the classiest" - so attempts to lowball his abilities strike me as very uncharacteristic.
With that said, it wouldn't surprise me if most of the media don't make hay of this kind of dichotomy.
I'll probably be in here and not the OT, if only to avoid the panicking.
tedrotheredro
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Yep, I'm already seeing some fuckery on that thread. It'll turn into a twitch stream in a few hours.
Can anyone hook me up with the chat link? I'll likely avoid OT tonight, too.
You don't have the server info? I'll PM it.
EDIT: Done. Just hit the link and welcome aboard.
Far too many concern trolls in the OT.
TheLaughingStock
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Are you trying to outdo former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's comments to young women with this level of disrespect? Young women aren't full of themselves because they don't allegedly care or value Hillary Clinton winning a primary.
The Technomancer
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I can see Trump being cordial to Hillary, but I don't think it goes further than that. I mean this is the man who says we need to lock her up, says all sorts of vile shit. For him to be all nice and lovey dovey here would go against that and look even more foolish at his next rally when he's blasting her.
The thing about Albright's comments is that she said the same thing in 2008 (in fact she's been saying it longer than that) and it backfired then, particularly when Sarah Palin started quoting her during the general. I don't know why she thought it'd be a good idea to repeat it again in 2016.
BenjaminBirdie
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You need to cultivate a gold star Twitter feed like me. Tonight is going to be godly.
User 463088
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Boring Trump is a big risk for his campaign.
People don't want boring Trump. Boring Trump versus Hillary means Hillary wins, because, Boring Trump is as close to conventional politician as you can get. But without any policy knowledge to back it up. But, I don't think he can pull it off.
People don't want boring Trump. Boring Trump versus Hillary means Hillary wins, because, Boring Trump is as close to conventional politician as you can get. But without any policy knowledge to back it up. But, I don't think he can pull it off.
The bar is set so low for Trump that I think Boring Trump will be declared a success.
whyamihere
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I sort of agree, but I don't know what you can do about it besides just look so much better comparatively.
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