It is still sinking in for me just how much these tax revelations blow up so many of Trump's arguments for his candidacy..
he lost that money right in the economic boom too.
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he lost that money right in the economic boom too.
Seinfeld's 100th episode was in 1995.Live look at Kellyanne right now.
As was the debut of Newsradio.
And the conclusion of Who Shot Mr Burns?
'95 was a good year.
neurosisxeno
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Not for Donald Trump apparently.
Randolph Freelander
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Speaking of, perhaps Trump lost that billion in 95 because Matthew was working for him.
This is the general circular logic I assumed would happen in some circles.
shinra-bansho
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"My husband grew the economy for everyone in 1995, while you were losing a $1 billion."
Kayleigh and all the Trump surrogates trying to pump themselves up for this week right now:
Spoiled Milk
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"The economy couldn't have been that good if I lost a billion dollars. Also, 1995 is the year your husband hired Monica Lewinsky."
Randolph Freelander
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To that point, the S&P 500 gained 34.1% that year, which is a ridiculous rate of return.
DataStream
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The greatest thing about all of this is that there is absolutely no way for him to explain this away.
Any explanation he could give will not be trusted without the receipts. His whole businessman angle is completely ruined and all he has left is arguing that since he has spent his life abusing the system he is the best person to trust in fixing it. That argument likely has a tipping point where your exploitive behavior is viewed as antithetical to any believability of being a reformer and I cannot imagine a situation where this doesn't pass that threshold.
All he has left now is tearing Clinton down and he is going to go HAM.
Any explanation he could give will not be trusted without the receipts. His whole businessman angle is completely ruined and all he has left is arguing that since he has spent his life abusing the system he is the best person to trust in fixing it. That argument likely has a tipping point where your exploitive behavior is viewed as antithetical to any believability of being a reformer and I cannot imagine a situation where this doesn't pass that threshold.
All he has left now is tearing Clinton down and he is going to go HAM.
cartoon_soldier
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LOL
It's kinda mindblowing. I don't think I've ever seen a single person hit with so much in such a short time, and then Trump keeps talking.
LOL
cartoon_soldier
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I am going with HRC campaign mailed the tax returns with return address at Trump Tower
On my own position, I think it's a big deal but I just thought he was full of shit on this front for so long that's it's almost like nothing to me because I think "well, yeah, duh."
shinra-bansho
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Is this meant to be an example of something Trump says back or an example of something that would (wouldn't) be effective as a counterattack.
Lol I know what you mean.
cartoon_soldier
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I am also going with HRC campaign should put out more positive ads that highlight:
1. College costs plan
2. Expanded National Service plan
3. Childcare plans
To really kill it off.
1. College costs plan
2. Expanded National Service plan
3. Childcare plans
To really kill it off.
DataStream
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I have trouble imagining him having the discipline to memorize the year any specific thing happened. I doubt he even knows the year(s) he got married.
Basileus777
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He knew about this before it went live, the NYT explicitly said that the Trump campaign tried to prevent it from being published.
PlayALLtheGames
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That was a good deal he lost $900+ million of other people's money and ended up net positive. Remember how he recently boasted about using other people's money?
It's like he got stabbed, shot, poisoned, cut, burned, electrocuted, and frozen to death--then decided to hang himself for no goddamned reason.
literally every sunday morning talk show is rewriting their schedule for tomorrow. and then they'll rewrite it again when trump tweets about it early tomorrow morning.
Trump is incredible because he punishes us for not staying awake 24/7 to see whenever he plans on tweeting.step away from your phone for a few hours? he already made more news, sucker
Trump is incredible because he punishes us for not staying awake 24/7 to see whenever he plans on tweeting.step away from your phone for a few hours? he already made more news, sucker
I have to give Hillary credit. I've been channel surfing all day, the ONLY HfA ad I've seen all day is the Children one....
Mighty Chin
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That's my bedtime chuckle
If Rasputin were alive he'd be wondering how Trump's still standing (While also wondering what the fuck happened to Russia in the past century).
Fragamemnon
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This is actually a great point in the sense that there was pretty high GDP growth then compared to what we've seen in the 2010s and can expect to see. Yet he still couldn't make money in hospitality, an industry that should do well in a good economy.
The spin will be that Democrats are sitting on 20 trillion dollars in debt, owe so much money to China, have crumbling roads, owe Iran over a billion dollars, destroyed the middle class, etc, etc, etc.
Business lose money all the time. You gotta spend money to make money, etc.
Business lose money all the time. You gotta spend money to make money, etc.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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Any youtube videos of the SNL skits?
Basileus777
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So you're saying that Hillary is already President.
lol. 1) he got nothing. 2) of course they're basically just openly coordinating with Assange now.
NYT reports that the letter that including the tax returns had a return address that said Trump Tower on it.
I've just lost any faith that anything will happen to him over this nonsense.
Unless you are a poor person, you're not getting prosecuted unless it is in an extreme case.
lol
I'm not really concerned about the spin.
A middle-schooler could spin this if you gave them enough time.
It's the ability to sell ridiculous spin that matters.
Spinning a 1 billion dollar loss into a positive would be a hurdle even for a polished, charismatic politician. And that ain't Donald Trump or anyone stumping for him. He hasn't been able to convince anyone but his Deplorables of anything since the general election started. He's not going to suddenly turn into a master politician over this.
I look forward to his campaign trying to dig themselves out of this one only to dig deeper. And the media has been WAITING for this. So spin away, y'all.
A middle-schooler could spin this if you gave them enough time.
It's the ability to sell ridiculous spin that matters.
Spinning a 1 billion dollar loss into a positive would be a hurdle even for a polished, charismatic politician. And that ain't Donald Trump or anyone stumping for him. He hasn't been able to convince anyone but his Deplorables of anything since the general election started. He's not going to suddenly turn into a master politician over this.
I look forward to his campaign trying to dig themselves out of this one only to dig deeper. And the media has been WAITING for this. So spin away, y'all.
Lol how many times have I read this now.
Remember in June when Assange said they had material that would indict Clinton? Nothing
DNC email leak ahead of the DNC in July? Nothing
Claims that Hillary had ties to ISIS? Nothing
DNC email leak in September? Nothing
Even Assange has shut up and been quiet for weeks and we all know what a hype man he is.
Remember, Trump has 7 days to get his story straight before the 2nd debate. Raddatz and Anderson Cooper will not let him off the hook on this. He won't escape follow-up on this question like he might have with Chris Wallace or even Lester Holt. They will press him and press him and so will Hillary.
Trump has 7 days to become a politician and nail down a great way to spin this in front of 50 million people.
Do you honestly believe he can do it? Yeah, me neither.
Trump has 7 days to become a politician and nail down a great way to spin this in front of 50 million people.
Do you honestly believe he can do it? Yeah, me neither.
banefirelord
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Wikileaks nor Assange have said a single thing either and we all know how much they love to hype shit. They've got nothing.
And if they did they would have released it already to stem the post-debate bleeding.
JohnTinker
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Really incredible how Team Trump have to put a call into the FSB (who runs Wikileaks) to try to bail them out
Randolph Freelander
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Laugh at Roger Stone all you want, but if Wikileaks reveals that Hillary gets pineapple on her pizza, I'm voting for Jill Stein.
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