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PoliGAF 2016 |OT11| Well this is exciting

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B-Dubs

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I can't believe they closed the Toys R Us in Times Square. I know that FAO was the real NY landmark that actually mattered, but the "Toys R Us with the Ferris Wheel" was probably the first thing I ever heard about Times Square.

I went to New York last year and finally went in it. It wasn't overly special. The Ferris Wheel wasn't running, the dinosaur animatronic was only minimally functioning, and a part of the store dedicated to Wonka Candy had all the lights turned off. Still, it was one of those things I always knew was there. It felt good to see it, even as an adult.

I'm going back to New York for a couple days next week and was trying to get my bearings on Google Street View. I kept trying to get directions to the Toys R Us, the easiest landmark I knew for navigation, and it's just gone.

It's a small casualty compared to something like Carnegie Deli or the afore-mentioned FAO Schwartz, but man, now it's going to be an Old Navy. Boring.

A lot of bookstores have been closing in Queens over the last few years only to be replaced with clothing stores too. The rise in rents has been killing everyone who doesn't make a fuck-ton of money.
 

Fox318

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I was kind of thinking something like that yesterday. Being in metro Phoenix area would surely invite some protesters as it has in the past. He wouldn't have any problem getting a crowd in Phoenix, but in Prescott... small enough that any dissenters probably don't want to be very public about it.

If you were running Trump's campaign right now the best thing I'd say you could do is try to make the candidate look nicer.

There is only so much spinning you can do on negative stories and even if you believe that its like a bed of nails where no one story will hurt him.

Maybe having him in a crowd with mostly supporters in an area where a protest is less likely could help his image.
 

Joeytj

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Did Politico delete their report about Guccifer 2.0 "hacks"? Or did they not do an article and just tweeted about it?

It's gone from their frontpage, nothing about the "hacks" there anymore.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Did Politico delete their report about Guccifer 2.0 "hacks"? Or did they not do an article and just tweeted about it?

It's gone from their frontpage, nothing about the "hacks" there anymore.

That's embarrassing. It's also why you always get confirmation of shit before publishing.
 

Cerium

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Did Politico delete their report about Guccifer 2.0 "hacks"? Or did they not do an article and just tweeted about it?

It's gone from their frontpage, nothing about the "hacks" there anymore.

I'm sure NYCmetsfan will be complaining to them shortly.
 

Toxi

Banned
Poorly written. This is what that ment

Politico isn't an arm of the clinton campaign, they have no responsibility to go to bat for them (the campaign)

Politico didn't lie in its report, it prefaced it with "claims"
Politico gave attention to obviously forged propaganda without bothering to verify it.

They were irresponsible, they were stupid, and they should be dragged through the coals for it.
 
Yesterday, I signed up for that Trump text alert thing, that's supposed to coordinate social response. Today I got my first text-- asking me to donate.

Amateur hour.
 
Why am I dying on a hill?

I'm very confused on what you guys are accusing me of.

What I'm worried about is a hack of something related to the clintons being legit but having some technically and you guys jumping on to blaming the media or some weird technicality that doesn't excuse the actions.

I'm criticizing you for the same thing you're criticizing politico of, Rushing to judgement.
It's stuff from DCCC, which we know was hacked. It contains boring fundraising stuff, combined with publically available organization stuff from democratic party. If you're going to present this as totes bombshell, you got nothing on Clintons. My problem is that if you're going to present boring party operations as Clinton Foundation docs which has a folder called "Pay To Play", you best vet the details. It may be common parlance inside operations, but sure as fuck a charity foundation will not have it. Even a Trump foundation wouldn't.
 
So it's pretty obvious the events that unfolded today that there are no hacked documents worth leaking left. I wouldn't worry about some "October surprise" for Hillary

Been a rough day for the Trumpers and Hillary leaks.
 
Why am I dying on a hill?

I'm very confused on what you guys are accusing me of.

What I'm worried about is a hack of something related to the clintons being legit but having some technically and you guys jumping on to blaming the media or some weird technicality that doesn't excuse the actions.

I'm criticizing you for the same thing you're criticizing politico of, Rushing to judgement.

That you're defending politico for rushing to print before even doing even some basic research. I mean I can go cobble together some files in the already hacked documents and put into a blog, but I wouldn't expect anyone seriously to report on it.
 

Boke1879

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anyone doing their due diligence will know this is nothing and has nothing to do with Clinton of her Foundation.

Of course this fuels shit for conspiracy theorists, but ultimately this shouldn't last past tonight. Unless some news orgs just want to pay dumb about it.
 
Also one good thing out of this dud story is that hopefully the Clintons and Clinton Foundation are beefing up their cybersecurity tenfold across the board.
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
Today in deplorable battles:

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Winning PA shuts down Trump's realistic chances of hitting 270.

Winning FL shuts down even the unrealistic ones.
Did the electoral college change since 2012?

Hillary winning CO, VA, PA, NH means she wins 272. She can lose everything else, including ME-2 and still win. Assuming Michigan and Wisconsin stay in blue column of course.
 

Joeytj

Banned
Hmm? 538 has Ohio leaning blue now. Did some poll come out I missed?

No, but some very good polls for HIllary came out, and even the usually horrible trackers like the LA Times one finally showed movement towards Hillary, as well as those Reuters/Ipsos polls. Seems that Hillary's debate bounce has actually continued to grow since the weekend, according to Nate Bronze:

@NateSilver538 1h1 hour ago
No sign yet of Clinton's post-debate surge abating. In fact, past 24 hours of state polls have maybe been the worst yet for Trump.

So, it's possible that new Ohio polls from the weekend will show Hillary tied or slight lead, like Nate's model predicts.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Two groups aligned with the TD Ameritrade founder J. Joe Ricketts and his family — a super PAC and a nonprofit whose donors remain anonymous — are boosting their efforts to thwart Democrat Hillary Clinton with mailers, TV commercials and digital ads in four crucial battlegrounds: Florida, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Ohio.

Nevada casino magnate Sheldon Adelson is among the donors, although his aides have not confirmed reports that he’s committed as much as $25 million to the effort. Officials previously have said Adelson would donate $5 million, with another $1 million coming from the Ricketts family, which owns the Chicago Cubs.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/pol...nsiders-plan-trump-push-four-states/91550724/
 
If you were running Trump's campaign right now the best thing I'd say you could do is try to make the candidate look nicer.

There is only so much spinning you can do on negative stories and even if you believe that its like a bed of nails where no one story will hurt him.

Maybe having him in a crowd with mostly supporters in an area where a protest is less likely could help his image.

I think they are putting him in friendly territory to prop up his ego and keep him motivated.

Hmm? 538 has Ohio leaning blue now. Did some poll come out I missed?

I would guess that Ohio is moving in their model based on national polls. One of the many reasons why the whole thing has been so volatile.
 
Jennifer Jacobs‏ @JenniferJJacobs
“I bet (Bill Clinton) went through hell last night," Trump says. “Honestly, there are many nights when he’s gone through hell with Hillary."
Jennifer Jacobs‏ @JenniferJJacobs
"We're a nation divided with race riots in the street. Race riots," Trump says at his Prescott Valley, Arizona rally.
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Iolo

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I don't put much stock in Nate Silver's predictions after "the third party vote won't decrease this year" and "the post DNC bump for Hillary may be permanent" and "the person up on Labor Day wins" followed by weeks of "but"

Everyone I know has a big "but"
 
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