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PoliGAF 2016 |OT11| Well this is exciting

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Fox318

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They have one more plan to try if these fake folders don't work:

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Hopefully Gerald Ford and Homer worked to stop the madness.
 

Syncytia

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I still can't wrap my mind around Trump campaigning in Prescott. Yavapai county is solidly R. The only races that get close for D are a couple House seats, but they still lose. The county went 58% Bush in 2000 and has been rising since, reaching 64% for Romney.
 

Fox318

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I still can't wrap my mind around Trump campaigning in Prescott. Yavapai county is solidly R. The only races that get close for D are a couple House seats, but they still lose. The county went 58% Bush in 2000 and has been rising since, reaching 64% for Romney.

Maybe he wants to show he has support and maybe a huge supporting crowd will help his case.

Isn't that why he started trying to court the black vote?
 
Yep. No verification. Nothing. Just "OMG HACKED HERE"
A little disappointed there wasn't a "medical records" folder, too. If you're going to fake it, might as well go all out! B- effort overall.

Hurricane continues to be annoying. ~25% it'll turn into Florida, ~25% it'll clip North Carolina, and ~50% it mirrors the coast. Land interaction hasn't been weakening it as much as we'd have hoped for. Chances of it not having any impact in terms of wind and rain are nearly zero. I'm really worried people are going to panic about it at the last instant considering there's been almost no national coverage, despite the fact that this scenario set itself up almost 10 days ago.

Light-hearted trivia: The National Hurricane Center names its aircraft after muppets. The Gulfstream-IV "Gonzo" gets the most work, with Miss Piggy and Kermit in reserve.
 

mo60

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Hot take theory question: If the hurricane hits bad on the east coast, could Trump pull a bullshit excuse to try and skip the debate?

Unless that hurricane affects his abilty to travel to the next debate location he probably has no excuse to ditch it.Dude can probably figure out alternate travel plans to ditch the worst of the hurrricane. It's possible the debate gets postponed but I'm not sure about that since it's in Missouri this time.
 

Syncytia

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Maybe he wants to show he has support and maybe a huge supporting crowd will help his case.

Isn't that why he started trying to court the black vote?

I was kind of thinking something like that yesterday. Being in metro Phoenix area would surely invite some protesters as it has in the past. He wouldn't have any problem getting a crowd in Phoenix, but in Prescott... small enough that any dissenters probably don't want to be very public about it.
 
Perhaps it's because I have plans and won't be watching, but I am convinced tonight's debate will have zero impact and be very dull.

Oh wait, that's not because of sour grapes, it's because it's Kaine and Pence. Zzzzzzzz.
 

Slacker

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Perhaps it's because I have plans and won't be watching, but I am convinced tonight's debate will have zero impact and be very dull.

Oh wait, that's not because of sour grapes, it's because it's Kaine and Pence. Zzzzzzzz.

History is on your side. I'm pretty sure the VP debate never has an impact.
 
This was an embarrassment for Politico. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt at all

We're just working backwards. You want to hate that politico posted this even though I see nothing wrong with their reporting or any lies or mistruths. They're not going to not report potential leaks.

They're not the clinton campaign, they didn't lie.
Maybe its not what clinton supports want them to do but attacking the media for something that wasn't wrong seems way too defensive.
 
We're just working backwards. You want to hate that politico posted this even though I see nothing wrong with their reporting or any lies or mistruths. They're not going to not report potential leaks.

They're not the clinton campaign, they didn't lie.
Maybe its not what clinton supports want them to do but attacking the media for something that wasn't wrong seems way too defensive.

Why are you defending poor journalism? They need to verify reports before posting it as news. This isn't even the first time this has happened. This isn't even the first time this has happened this week
 
lol these SUSA Senate demos are ridiculous

18-34

Burr: 40
Ross: 37

35-49

Burr: 51
Ross: 37

50-64

Burr: 43
Ross: 38

65+

Burr: 47
Ross: 50

Also has Ross only getting 70% of the black vote.
 
We're just working backwards. You want to hate that politico posted this even though I see nothing wrong with their reporting or any lies or mistruths. They're not going to not report potential leaks.

They're not the clinton campaign, they didn't lie.
Maybe its not what clinton supports want them to do but attacking the media for something that wasn't wrong seems way too defensive.
Maybe have gone through fact checking first? All this tells me is that I can whip up a fake list of folders, fill them with junk, host it on a sharing website and send the link to Politico with the header "Clinton met with aliens leak - TOPSECRET" and they will publish it.
 
Some potential trouble for the GOP in Iowa...

@IAStartingLine
Today's new Iowa early vote numbers:

Voted:
Ds: 22,895
Rs: 9,887
NPs: 6,559

Absentees Requested:
Ds: 95,681
Rs: 49,384
NPs: 40,546

@IAStartingLine
Compared to 2012:
Requested:
Ds: 64%
Rs: 76%
NPs: 69%

Republicans really starting to fall off from their 2012 numbers. Were at 110%
 

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The Autumn Wind
Can we drone all of these CNN Trump surrogates once this election is over? They're all completely insufferable.
 
We're just working backwards. You want to hate that politico posted this even though I see nothing wrong with their reporting or any lies or mistruths. They're not going to not report potential leaks.

They're not the clinton campaign, they didn't lie.
Maybe its not what clinton supports want them to do but attacking the media for something that wasn't wrong seems way too defensive.

huh?
 
What is the point of local news stations that interview the parents of men that kill their SO, their children, and themselves?

I mean... I don't think that the parents of the killer are going to be able to clearly think through the issue just a few days after it happened.
 

mo60

Member
Some potential trouble for the GOP in Iowa...

Could republicans end up doing worse in Iowa in this election then in 2012 even if the dems do worse than 12.Like I can see the republicans getting around 45% in Iowa while the dems get around 51% for example. The dems may be able to scrap by with a 6 or 7 point win in Iowa if they get lucky.
 
I think [Obama’s] health care bill has been a remarkable success for 25 million people, and for getting rid of pre-existing conditions, and the problems with it show why the president was right to recommend a public option in the first place because the only real problems I can see with it are small business people and individual working people just above the subsidy line are having. Why is that? Because they’re small, they’re independent, they do have any market power vis a vis the insurance companies, and that’s why Hillary said, “The change we need is not to wreck this thing and repeal it. It’s done too much good. The change we need is to create an affordable option for the small business people and the working people who are not covered — that’s what the public opinion is about.”

This is the larger context clinton quote about obamacare
 

Slayven

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Micheal Reagan is mad

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...ton-ronald-reagan-donald-trump-michael-reagan

Michael Reagan, who’s been a vocal opponent of Trump, dismissed his proposed tax plan that some say resembles the former president’s, adding that Ronald Reagan would suggest voting for down-ballot Republicans as a way to be a check on Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

“I am glad my father is not alive to watch this...He would tell us to vote the down ticket to stop Hillary,” he tweeted on Monday.
 
Poorly written. This is what that ment

Politico isn't an arm of the clinton campaign, they have no responsibility to go to bat for them (the campaign)

Politico didn't lie in its report, it prefaced it with "claims"

That's the National Enquirer approach to news. Take something that may or may not be true and add a modifier to it so you can't be sued for publishing misleading info. News organizations have an ethical duty to at least attempt to verify stories before publishing them.
 

shem935

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Poorly written. This is what that ment

Politico isn't an arm of the clinton campaign, they have no responsibility to go to bat for them (the campaign)

Politico didn't lie in its report, it prefaced it with "claims"

Maybe to avoid a situation like this politico shouldn't post reactionary pieces without waiting 5 mintues for things to play out:

Looking how this is playing out how the Russians want this to.

1. They know its not from the foundation
2. Articles report that someone claims to have foundations documents
3. Foundation is forced to issue denial
4. Articles are written about how the new scandal isn't a scandel
5. Articles with clinton foundation and scandal poliferate and trend on twitter.

The last thing is the end goal. Associating clinton with scandal

Or is that not an undesirable outcome?

Like I get that Politico doesn't have to give a fuck about what's best for Clinton's campaign but at some point they have put up enough bait pieces/headlines/reactionary pieces to edge into the territory of bad journalism.
 

Holmes

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I mean, yes, but they are now well behind their 2012 benchmarks after being ahead before. That's not good. Dems aren't dong as well either, but now it's not nearly as perilous.
GOP requests were front loaded. Hopefully Democratic requests are more back loaded and they perform well in early voting.
 

Nate Cohn ‏@Nate_Cohn 7m7 minutes ago Washington, DC
Upshot/Siena poll in NC hints at why the debate might have given her a clear lead in NC. We had Clinton+2 (+4 h2h) with a modeled electorate

They're talking about their NC poll, and why this makes sense that she's increased her lead post debate.
 
http://www.aei.org/publication/how-trumps-praise-of-putin-could-cost-him-the-election/

an interesting read on how Trump's embrace of Putin will cost him votes from Americans of Eastern European descent who despise the former USSR and Putin.
Take Ohio, for example, where Trump leads Hillary Clinton by just two points — a statistical dead heat. Ohio has at least 865,204 Eastern European American voters, including 420,149 Polish-Americans, 183,593 Hungarian Americans, 118,975 Slovak Americans, and 40,742 Ukrainian Americans. These are the white, ethnic working-class Reagan Democrats whom Trump is expecting to carry him to victory in Ohio. In a tight race, he can’t afford to lose any of these voters over his Putin bromance.

Or take Florida, where Trump trails Clinton by two points. In 2000, George W. Bush won the state by just 537 votes. Florida has 747,243 voters of Eastern European descent, most of whom are not happy with Trump’s embrace of Putin. If 2016 is close, losing even a fraction of those voters could mean losing Florida — and the White House.

The story is the same in other battleground states. Pennsylvania (where Trump is trailing Clinton by two points) has 1,481,914 voters of East European descent. Wisconsin (where Trump is gaining but still trails by five points) has 666,194. Michigan (where Trump is trailing by five points) has 1,075,800.


remember '76 Ford's debate flub? ''there is no Soviet domination in Eastern Europe''. Lost swing states that had huge pocket of Americans of Eastern European descent.

something like that
 
I can't believe they closed the Toys R Us in Times Square. I know that FAO was the real NY landmark that actually mattered, but the "Toys R Us with the Ferris Wheel" was probably the first thing I ever heard about Times Square.

I went to New York last year and finally went in it. It wasn't overly special. The Ferris Wheel wasn't running, the dinosaur animatronic was only minimally functioning, and a part of the store dedicated to Wonka Candy had all the lights turned off. Still, it was one of those things I always knew was there. It felt good to see it, even as an adult.

I'm going back to New York for a couple days next week and was trying to get my bearings on Google Street View. I kept trying to get directions to the Toys R Us, the easiest landmark I knew for navigation, and it's just gone.

It's a small casualty compared to something like Carnegie Deli or the afore-mentioned FAO Schwartz, but man, now it's going to be an Old Navy. Boring.
 
Nate Cohn ‏@Nate_Cohn 7m7 minutes ago Washington, DC
Upshot/Siena poll in NC hints at why the debate might have given her a clear lead in NC. We had Clinton+2 (+4 h2h) with a modeled electorate

They're talking about their NC poll, and why this makes sense that she's increased her lead post debate.

Thank you.
 
Weird hill for NYC to die on. Come on.

Why am I dying on a hill?

I'm very confused on what you guys are accusing me of.

What I'm worried about is a hack of something related to the clintons being legit but having some technically and you guys jumping on to blaming the media or some weird technicality that doesn't excuse the actions.

I'm criticizing you for the same thing you're criticizing politico of, Rushing to judgement.
 
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