BenjaminBirdie
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I can see one brave American standing up for our republic and suicide questioning him about it.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT12| The last days of the Republic
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I can see one brave American standing up for our republic and suicide questioning him about it.
Nah, I view that tweet as him coming to the realization he's toast. Slowly making peace with it.
If he believed he had a fighting chance he would be "drunk tweeting", fighting like crazy right now.
GregLombardi
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Trump literally cannot drop out at this point. Why are people even discussing this lol? I mean...there is literally no path to this is there? Also there's a debate with the man tomorrow! Tomorrow!!
I think he's just exhausted from having to think up ways to defend Trump.
E: Joy Reid is downright gleeful right now, lmao.
BenjaminBirdie
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This is what I was talking about earlier though. If he's committed assault and there's evidence of it that's being held back for "maximum impact", that's unconscionable and, hopefully, criminal. I don't care who's doing it and why.
sazzy
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Slurpy2k20
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Man, I REALLY wish this was leaked like an hr before the debate instead of yesterday so he wouldn't have had time to polish up his talking points before then.
Shittt please let there be video
NYCmetsfan
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I seriously think the drop out talk comes from people wanting an easy way to say Hillary's election is illegitimate.
I mean they're already gonna pull the "if she was running against a real Republican" but if they turn their backs publicly it makes it bullshit easier.
I mean they're already gonna pull the "if she was running against a real Republican" but if they turn their backs publicly it makes it bullshit easier.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Clinton is still only gonna win like 47-43. It's just going to drag Trump's points down and throw them at the gimmick candidates.
The only thing I'm concerned about is whether Clinton's strategy on the wikileaks stuff is going to be to refuse to own them and insist she won't comment because stolen documents. If that comes up on a debate stage, I think that would play very, very poorly.
The only thing I'm concerned about is whether Clinton's strategy on the wikileaks stuff is going to be to refuse to own them and insist she won't comment because stolen documents. If that comes up on a debate stage, I think that would play very, very poorly.
User 463088
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I am sure there will be. The entire panel dragged ha across the floor, snatched his synthetic wig, and just shit all over his argument. Then, he immediately went back to "Bu-bu-bu Hillary!"
I wonder if that holier-than-thou Race Bannon lookin' fucker Pence could drop out? He's done either way but he could at least get on his soapbox and try to look above it all.
He has had 25 years to polish up his talking points on the Central Park 5 and still managed to fuck it up the other day.
ShadowSwordmaster
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Of course he would say that.
Ignatz Mouse
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We were headed for a 5-point-win before this. It's going to be bigger than that now.
1) Trump won't lead in the polls or projections again. Unlike 2012 when people convinced themselves that Romney was winning, there's little chance of that here. Significant numbers of GOP voters will stay home rather than vote for a candidate they dislike *and* has no chance of winning.
2) Ground game.
3) This loses virtually every woman who's not the core GOP base, and even some of those.
Seriously, this is snowballing. Unlike allegations, or investigations, an actual audio tape is going to deter people who might have voted. Virtually every woman knows a woman who's been groped, who's been treated like her consent doesn't matter, who's had it brushed off as "boys will be boys." Allegations are easy to rationalize away, but not a tape of the actual perpetrator *bragging* about it in a context that he clearly knows it's wrong and does it anyway.
1) Trump won't lead in the polls or projections again. Unlike 2012 when people convinced themselves that Romney was winning, there's little chance of that here. Significant numbers of GOP voters will stay home rather than vote for a candidate they dislike *and* has no chance of winning.
2) Ground game.
3) This loses virtually every woman who's not the core GOP base, and even some of those.
Seriously, this is snowballing. Unlike allegations, or investigations, an actual audio tape is going to deter people who might have voted. Virtually every woman knows a woman who's been groped, who's been treated like her consent doesn't matter, who's had it brushed off as "boys will be boys." Allegations are easy to rationalize away, but not a tape of the actual perpetrator *bragging* about it in a context that he clearly knows it's wrong and does it anyway.
And there is still worse to come.
He's not polishing his talking points.
He's going to watch news channels talk all about this.
He's going to be getting grilled by Priebus and Ryan all day behind doors.
His children are terrified about the future of their brand.
Other republicans will probably withdraw support.
He will be so rattled by this that Hillary can focus on other points to destroy him (Central Park 5, his nuke policy).
He's so fucked. His numbers among women are scorched. It has to be over. And the rumors that their is more damning stuff to come is just icing on the cake.
Ignatz Mouse
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Oh, and...
GOP voters also have an excuse to give themselves for not winning. Makes it easier to stay home if you can blame it on the candidate.
GOP voters also have an excuse to give themselves for not winning. Makes it easier to stay home if you can blame it on the candidate.
Ok, that makes sense
lollllllllll
benjipwns
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No, he got that one right.
Oh wait, you're saying this like if he were a standard person who changed their opinion based on new facts.
sturgboski
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I loved the Newsweek guy calling Trump surrogates out for their bullshit "ok fine Trump did X but what about Hillary (or Bill)?" Like, exactly what Trump did in his apology and will be doing tomorrow night.
Something I noticed yesterday during the fun: when the New York Times released their article about Trump assaulting a women in Ivanka's bedroom, they tweeted saying "was going to release this on Sunday but going early now."
Sunday's the debate. MSNBC was holding the tape for something too, remember?
I'm starting to think this whole thing was actually planned to come out immediately before the debates, and when it got leaked to Fahrenholdt it went early.
TheLostBigBoss
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benjipwns
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So when will one of these people calling on Trump to withdraw indicate their ideas for a replacement candidate? Just hypothetically.
The main thing is that there's no point to this hypothetical from a strategic stand point. If they lose, just cast the ballots for Trump because who gives a fuck? If he wins, Trump isn't going to stick to the deal and the party isn't going to block him from fucking winning.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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My fascist family members on Facebook are in mourning after watching the video.
They've responded to my (assumed, I haven't posted anything) satisfaction by mocking my mental illness. Charmingly deplorable.
They've responded to my (assumed, I haven't posted anything) satisfaction by mocking my mental illness. Charmingly deplorable.
Tangled Up in Blue
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Oh, FFS, I'm talking about when McGovern's running mate was dropped from the ticket after it was revealed that he had undergone electroshock therapy. Watergate didn't start really breaking until well into '73 when the election was over. Wake up.
You have complete lost touch with reality if you think women are going to show up for Trump after he JOKED ABOUT SEXUALLY ASSAULTING A WOMAN.
Seriously, like, do you even know any women?
They're showing up. You greatly underestimate how partisan people are.
shinra-bansho
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Guesses on next oppo drop. I'm going to guess he called the Central Park Five something racist on tape.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I'm very sorry to hear that.
whyamihere
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Trump just told the WSJ he would never drop out and that he's getting "tremendous" support.
I wonder what Paul Ryan's response will be if they have Trump saying the n-word on tape.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I'm having a tough time imagining many things that are worse than what happened in this video, short of hard evidence of him committing a serious crime.
Joe Shlabotnik
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He will get tens of millions of female votes.
nature boy
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GOP conundrum:
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I mean, they're diehard Trump and Fourth Reich supporters and even they know this is the end!
Can't be too unhappy with that evidence.
I hope they destroy this man. I don't even care how far you run the lead up, bury him. Gives the Democrats a higher chance of taking the House, which will be key to pushing agenda going forward.
I hope it doesn't get to the point where people remember this election as the turning point. No this was a consistent narrative of a racist, misogynist candidate with zero policy justification. This moment only represents a time where independents really start to wake up.
Trump says he's getting "overwhelming support" in case any of you were worried about him!
I didn't even think about this, but considering how fervently he called for (and still calls for?) their execution... he's probably dropped some slurs
I didn't even think about this, but considering how fervently he called for (and still calls for?) their execution... he's probably dropped some slurs
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