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PoliGAF 2016 |OT12| The last days of the Republic
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BronzeWolf
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Pence dropping?
I can't believe. He should just stop campaigning
I can't believe. He should just stop campaigning
Finale Fireworker
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Why do they keep suggesting this? Even they must know this is not an option.
He won't, but people are calling for him to.
Pence on the other hand, might actually drop off the ticket since he's ultimately concerned more about himself than Trump.
Agreed 100%. Words won't be able to describe how disappointed I am if the Democrats let the Republicans live this down in any way. They should know by now that the Republican Party that backed Trump is not home to any decent people and is not open to negotiation.
Dems need to go for the throat while they have the chance.
I wouldn't go so far as to say they were looking for an excuse, but the fact that he was already losing post-debate definitely influenced their reaction. More GOPers would be attempting to somehow spin this for him if he were leading in the polls.
metalslimer
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That Pence statement is interesting...
If everything falls apart he had an out but he did not try and defend him
If everything falls apart he had an out but he did not try and defend him
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Do the former and then worry about the latter once Hillary is in the oval office. Trump can be a very useful weapon in convincing Dems to give a shit about mid-terms.
Brawndo Addict
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Honestly this is what is bothering me more and more. This should have been the reaction to Trump from day fucking one. Or day fucking three, or twenty three, or one hundred and fifty seven. Every single goddamn thing Trump has ever said was deplorable enough to merit utter disqualification and rejection. Republicans are acting like this is some extreme change from Trump's completely consistent behavior and they're going to try to slime their way into getting people to forget about the fact that they were lockstep the rest of the way.
This fucking guy argued that we should kill women and children in war. He literally said we should engage in crimes against humanity and nothing happened. Seriously, what the fuck does it say about America that him saying pussy is what did him in and not the fact that he wanted to target and kill civilians.
Fuck me.
They feel like it's an "out" for abandoning Trump without looking like they are abandoning the party. It's not something they actually think will happen
"Fuck let me get to 2020 and forget about all this, please."
Bernie is finally helping in Senate races!! He could be a huge boost to millennial voters for both Hillary and, more importantly, to close Senate races in these states.
All these close races in PA, NH, NC, FL, etc would easily get a slight boost with his help.
https://twitter.com/KatieMcGintyPA/status/784770180954152961
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One month out from Election Day @BernieSanders comes to PA to hit the trail with Katie. First stop: Scranton
All these close races in PA, NH, NC, FL, etc would easily get a slight boost with his help.
https://twitter.com/KatieMcGintyPA/status/784770180954152961
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One month out from Election Day @BernieSanders comes to PA to hit the trail with Katie. First stop: Scranton
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Mike Pence is never going to be president, what a loser response, omg.
'also he never said them'
bodyofanamerican
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Hmmmm.
sturgboski
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If only we could see what Trump feels in his heart
I know no one watched the VP debates, but Tim Kaine let us know that what Donald Trump said is what is in his heart by quoting scripture. Take that religious right who still worships the golden calf that is Donald.
metalslimer
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Sucks that CNN is censoring now.
Edit: Oh they stoped censoring. People deserve to hear all of it.
Edit: Oh they stoped censoring. People deserve to hear all of it.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Trump increased his lead in the LA Times poll today.
These people have created the worst model in the history of time, this is amazing, omg.
These people have created the worst model in the history of time, this is amazing, omg.
benjipwns
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The American people support President Obama in the
makingmusic476
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God, if they somehow retake the House, I hope Bernie and Hillary work on ramming through tax reform asap.
almost surprised he didn't try that
BREAKING SHOCKING NEWS: Pence can't defend things that Trump says.
AntraxSuicide
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Hillary would probably win all 50 states if Trump dropped out. You cannot simply change someone's vote after the fact; every early vote cast for Trump right now counts for Trump, and Trump alone. You can't just give those votes to other candidates. Elections aren't wrestling matches where you can just tag someone else in at the last minute.
All of the currently voting states would be lost to the GOP. Maybe you could get someone like Pence on the ballot for some of the more draconian voting red states (MS has like zero early voting, and we're hardcore about letting people vote absentee as well), but Hillary would easily hit over 400 EVs (close to 500) in this scenario.
And all of this is assuming the court cases they'd need to file (in every single state they could) go their way. We would never postpone the election for a candidate's own self-inflicted bullshit either, so they've got a month to file and defend those cases. They will not all be successful (and again, since this is completely self-inflicted, I don't know if ANY of those cases would go the GOP's way).
The election system is not designed to cover for a party's incompetence. The GOP showed up to the final exam without doing any of their fucking homework, and we're past the drop date for the course. They can continue to stay in the course and earn an F or they can drop out and get an F either way).
Joe Molotov
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If only we could see what Trump feels in his heart
http://www.theonion.com/article/why-can-i-never-seem-say-right-thing-weeps-trump-p-53408
Thequietone
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The nuke comment wasn't on audio/video right? I feel that is the main difference, people like to be able to see and hear it themselves. Plus I believe it was someone who said he had said it. As for the climate change I believe a poll came out recently that showed a majority of Americans are suspicious of climate science. The bigotry, unfortunately, only drains you of so much support.
I think Pence has checked out. He is done, people hyping him for 2020 after the debate probably convinced him to run out the clock then rebuild.
Fragamemnon
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No need to pile on Trump right now. He's always been his own worst enemy. Just keep it smooth and make him bomb another debate.
Every big campaigner in the camp should be re-writing their stump speeches for the generic D ticket and the local candidates right now though.
Every big campaigner in the camp should be re-writing their stump speeches for the generic D ticket and the local candidates right now though.
Fragamemnon
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This feels like the political equivalent of running the football with 15 minutes left in the 4th quarter when you're down by 4-5 touchdowns. There's no way you can win, so don't get yourself hurt for the next game.
sazzy
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Lets say there are 2 districts with 100 population each.
R's lead 70/30 in one, and lose 40/60 in another.
They redistrict the population, so they lose 15 in one and gain 15 in another.
So now they win both districts, 55/45 each.
BUT
they now lead by only 10 people in BOTH, whereas before they led by 40 in one.
So if turnout for R's goes down by a little, they risk losing BOTH.
I've put in very simplistic numbers, but that's kind of how it works.
BronzeWolf
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Please don't drop Trump.
Let HRC fuck you into the ground, along with the RNC
Let HRC fuck you into the ground, along with the RNC
benjipwns
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Not all states are that way, in many you do simply vote for a slate of electors that aren't bound in anyway. In other states they're bound by threat of fines but it's never been enforced.
Trump also can't just drop off the ballot. There's deadlines for that too.
Good Job Bob
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edit: wrong thread
nature boy
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TumblingHippo
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benjipwns
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Dialysis. I mean, that's what some people are saying. I don't know but it's just what I've heard.
metalslimer
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BrokenFiction
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Bernie seems kinda pissed about the wikileaks stuff, in the subtext
Fuck him, he dragged this talking point well past the point he could no longer win the primary, and now he's just embarrassed it actually showed her to be more left than she portrays herself as to the general public. He's mad it made him look foolish and that's it.
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