BronzeWolf
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Don't forget Alex "Vitamin" Jones
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT12| The last days of the Republic
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Don't forget Alex "Vitamin" Jones
titiklabingapat
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Basileus777
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Nomadic Sparks
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Someone make sure Pat Buchanan is still alive?
Officerrob
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Pence thinks he has a career after this, and even he knows abandoning Trump destroys that
The Dems just need to continue hitting them hard over this. Either turn off moderates to the down ballot GOPers or get them to break with Trump and enrage the Trumpkins. If I were Hillary, I'd have a group of the campaign rile up down ballot angst on Twitter and r/the_donald.
WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE JUST CALL SEAN!?
ryutaro's mama
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"And your husband didn't even want you, Hillary." - Nominee Orange Baboon
sazzy
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While all you've said is true, I think its very disingenuous if people completely dismiss the idea that these leaks were facilitated by the Clinton camp.
Think about the NYT tax story. It is illegal for anyone to disclose someone tax returns. How convenient that they happened to show up in a snail mailbox, unable to be traced.
And this story. How convenient that NBC was worried about a potential lawsuit, and the video just got accidentally leaked by some unknown person. And NBC isn't even bothering to investigate how it got leaked.
Even if the Clinton camp is not involved, there is no doubt that media people, on an individual level, if not on a company-level, are coordinating these leaks amongst themselves, rightfully fearing a Trump presidency.
ryutaro's mama
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Not bad at all.
Unless Clinton's team has people on the inside, I don't see how you can blame these leaks on them.
Also, what the hell does any of this even have to do with the conversation at hand?
BronzeWolf
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thestopsign
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Besides the cold opening, any other SNL clips from tonight?
Also it took me a few hours of reading, but I finally caught up with this thread.
I also donated a celebratory $60 to Hillary today. I might look into some of the closer senate races and start sending them some help.
Also it took me a few hours of reading, but I finally caught up with this thread.
I also donated a celebratory $60 to Hillary today. I might look into some of the closer senate races and start sending them some help.
Randolph Freelander
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"If we're talking about standing, Melania is taller than you are.
Alright, I won the debate. Hillary's not qualified, vote for me on November 8. I'm going home."
(this is more of an Alec Baldwin Donald Trump, but whatever.)
ryutaro's mama
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In the best timeline, Diamond Joe Biden and John Kaisch are preparing for a policy based debate that is free of reality show fuckery.
Oh well.
Oh well.
Hmm
Not sure I like this one
First image in head was the John Kerry Mary lesbian answer
The timing is not so suspicious then
Mook wanted this out earlier in the week
Hannity is, unfortunately, weirdly self-aware about this kind of stuff. I remember being all excited about a post-election 2012 meltdown, especially following Karl Rove, and dude just kind of calmly brushed it off.
RustyNails
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She can come up with 50 million zingers but I don't think stepping down into the gutter is a good idea for Hillary as her opponent is melting in the past 48 hours and taking the party with him. Hillary did not want people to cast aspersions on her and Bill's private life after the scandals came out, and she sure as shit wouldn't want the same for anyone else even if it's someone as repugnant as Trump. Anyone who's paying attention knowns Trump is a philanderer, cheated on his wives and anyone who paid attention to last 24 hours knows about the Pussygate. If he brings attention, just deal with it as she did in the 90s and gracefully sidestep without a counterpunch. Let the thing blow up on Trump's face in real time.
He probably does better financially with a dem in charge to rally against.
I think the truly horrifying thing is the two non-apologies and defiant tweets and wave to his supporters outside Trump Tower show that he doesn't understand what he's done. He read their words, but doesn't care about their meaning. This guy just sees that people are reacting negatively, and is angry over that, from the looks of things.
sazzy
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dowd's latest column:
read the rest here: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/o...-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
i love her writing style
read the rest here: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/o...-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
i love her writing style
More shades in this one
I like
hipsterpants
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I'm pleasantly surprised at the number of Missourians on here looking forward to voting D in the fall. In this post-facts world along with the lack of polling I've come to believe that this state is not nearly as safe for the GOP as everyone thinks. I don't think any Republican actually thought they could lose the governorship and their senate seat when the year began.
I'd be hopeful that a Kander victory would get the national party looking here more, there must be something going on for a place like this to have two Dem senators.
Screw that. It turns out this is the best timeline.
i think it's perfect if she just wished melania well.
sazzy
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"Donald's statements were horriific. I wish Melania well, and want to let her know that I'm a phone call away if she wants to talk to someone during this difficult time."
JesseEwiak
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Well, that's because Hannity is a carnie. He went from saying the GOP needed to pass immigration reform right after the '12 election to being all Trumpian about the Mexican Horde this summer. He's probably a conservative, but he doesn't probably care about policy positions at all.
OTOH, I think O'Reilly really is the right-wing slightly racist guy of his age who think he's an Independent because he might've voted for a couple of Democratic local politicians or thought a very right-leaning Democrat had some good ideas.
Hoo, that's good.. and he'd look like a dick if he continues to attack on the subject after she expresses empathy. It'd be another "high road-low road" trap.
AntraxSuicide
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I'm sure this happens in the business, but with the tax thing, I still think the most likely candidate is someone close to Ivana, if not Ivana herself. She would even have a legal right to release her own taxes. Trump should've filed separately lol.
And yes, the Clinton camp likely has interns who are cooking up ways to "leak" info to the press, but ultimately, if the info wasn't there, then it wouldn't matter.
sazzy
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I wouldn't be surprised if NYT knew who the the tax statements came from, and they simply mailed the returns to themselves, with the Trump Tower as the return address, to establish plausible deniability - in case Donald came after them for intentionally seeking out private information.
AntraxSuicide
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The biggest thing that tips me off was that the tax returns were copies of Ivana's forms at some point because they have the Post-It Note arrows pointing to the lines for your spouse to sign. At some point, Ivana Trump held those documents, and they somehow made it to a reporter. If it ever came out that it was her, to my knowledge, there's nothing even illegal about it. Nothing says you can't release your own returns (even if your spouse is on them).
BronzeWolf
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Probably her accountant was the source
hydragonwarrior
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Important question for US Poligaf: is it actually possible for Trump to step down and let Pence take his place?
Now that he's pretty much guaranteed a hit in votes, I want him to remain based on all the crap that's now affecting him. I don't want another person to step in to"save" the Repub party because that's a level of uncertainty I don't want in this race to November.
Now that he's pretty much guaranteed a hit in votes, I want him to remain based on all the crap that's now affecting him. I don't want another person to step in to"save" the Repub party because that's a level of uncertainty I don't want in this race to November.
Basileus777
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No. All that could happen is that the Republican party schemes for a mass faithless elector conspiracy, which is nonsense that will never happen. They're stuck with Trump and the calls for him to step down are just symbolic stances.
BlastProcessing
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Not really. Ballots have been printed and mailed out; early voting has already begun. There simply isn't enough time. The last realistic deadline was Sept. 1 and that would have been pushing it.
bananabread
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How long until the debate GAF?
I live in Western Australia (+8:00GMT) and I've always found time differences hard to calculate.
I live in Western Australia (+8:00GMT) and I've always found time differences hard to calculate.
AntraxSuicide
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About 18 hours from this post.
Tranqueris
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This is the first time I've read anyone say that she gained "a few" pounds. Some said that she looked amazing at the time but they always add in a part where they say "she gained so much weight" or she gained a huge amount or a massive amount. I never know if they're saying that's what Trump meant or if they're adding some weird commentary about "how she got so fat though!"
shinra-bansho
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This is Nationalism!
American Pride.
Moronic.
Also Maureen Dowd is a looney hack.
American Pride.
Moronic.
Also Maureen Dowd is a looney hack.
Randolph Freelander
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Good point. Job well done, and he didn't even need to get elected President. One more month of this, and the GOP might be on the ash heap of history.
Like I said, best thing that could happen:
Please proceed, deplorables.
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