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[Brawndo Addict]

As a debate, it is drama of a sort. Having her call him out on his bullshit is a simultaneous appeal to pathos logos and ethos. If this was an high school, sure, you're completely right, such an approach is worthless, but people are literally tuning in to see these two chew each other out over what is wrong with the each other, as we have with many elections before. You're right in the sense that you'll never change the bully's mind with this attack, but it's the audience you're trying to convince, and people do respond to rousing "this is why you suck" speeches.

But since it seems that Hillary got a decisive victory anyway, it looks like it's a moot point. I expected it to be much closer, atleast within 10 points of each other, but it seems the country has some semblance of sanity. My only point here is that this could have been even more decisive if Hillary went for the many jugulars that Trump exposed.

I'd challenge you to actually write out exactly what you think Hillary should have said and compare it to what she did say. Most of the "perfect" responses that GAF comes up with for Hillary are super cringe-worthy; rousing Sorkin speeches work in fiction precisely because it's not the real world. The average American is not a super-liberal looking for self-indulgent screeds.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Insta polls aren't that great a measure of who won (since most of the effects will be felt over the next few days after media digestion, and instant polls aren't very accurate in general) but it's not bad to be ahead. We have to wait a few days for real national polls to come out which include the debate winner to see. Also, since the tape and the debate happened almost in tandem, by Friday or so we should see their effects in quality polls.

But it shapes the media narrative. They can't write shit that goes against polls.

 

[brianmcdoogle]

There's nowhere near enough money in these markets to make them accurate.

Rubio shot up from 22% to 74% in "wins Republican nomination" based on him finishing third in Iowa! No reasonable market would have that happen.

Seriously. Betting markets aren't accurate, and Silver makes himself a fool every time he brings them up.

 

[StoOgE]

There's nowhere near enough money in these markets to make them accurate.

Rubio shot up from 22% to 74% in "wins Republican nomination" based on him finishing third in Iowa! No reasonable market would have that happen.

I've moved the market once with a big sell.

As a former trader, it's hilarious how low information the investors are, and how thin those markets are.

It's a good way to make a few bucks for fun, but it's worthless info.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Moment of levity

Daniel Gamlin ‏@RaiseUpNC 2h
"Reaching out... touching meeeee... touching yoooooouuuuuu...

SWEET CAROLINE!!!"

#Debate

 

[sazzy]

chris matthews has a crush on hillary

 

[Ithil]

Stony-faced Wolf Blitzer dropping the poll with Trump losing handily right on Conway made me laugh way harder than it probably should have.

 

[wutwutwut]

The betting markets are like the TF2 markets. Way too many arbitrage opportunities.

 

[Y2Kev]

Chris Matthews is disgusting

 

[GutsOfThor]

Thinking about it, what does Trump have left?

She threw Bill in her face, now what?

That ever elusive box of emails.

 

[Zukkoyaki]

Betting markets aren't a very good indicator for projecting the race but they a pretty good indicator of how people may perceive events.

I honestly just like watching them out of curiosity more than anything.

 

[Iolo]

All these threads are moving so fast, but if you wanted some chair fucking and didn't get any

 

[Slayven]

Is that Chris Matthews' bodyguard.

 

[Boke1879]

best the media can do is say Trump performed better BUT Clinton still won. That's going to be the narrative going forward and this man said he'd jail her if he was President. That's not getting good play for him.

 

[BrokenFiction]

Chris Matthews is disgusting

What happened?

 

[Owzers]

Chris Matthews is disgusting

What happened? Chris always gets loopy at night.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

"GET HEM OUT OF HERE!"

 

[Tamanon]

By the way, why does Trump keep saying acid-washed emails?

It's really weird.

 

[Effect]

did anyone even cover what was being said during that conf? it seemed like all the commentators were talking over it

I don't think there was any audio from it.

 

[Holmes]

That "orange turd" thing is the dumbest recurring thing anyone on GAF says.

And I'm an expert on dumb recurring "jokes" driven into the ground.

The benji turd has spoken

 

[sazzy]

corey getting booed by people standing behind cnn media booth

 

[ezrarh]

Seriously. Betting markets aren't accurate, and Silver makes himself a fool every time he brings them up.

God I wish Intrade was still around. Made a lot of money off delusional conservatives back in 2012.

 

[Y2Kev]

Hes talking about how pretty she is and how sweet her voice sounds. It's just totally irrelevant and only comes up for a woman.

 

[Holmes]

I had a lot of reservations making that benji turd joke because I have reason to believe he can locate me and kill me.

 

[kevin1025]

I just tuned back in. Why are people losing their shit behind CNN?

 

[Hellsing321]

By the way, why does Trump keep saying acid-washed emails?

It's really weird.

The 80's are in again!

 

[Teggy]

Trump tweeted a picture with his "she would be in jail" quote.

Dude is insane.

 

[sazzy]

I just tuned back in. Why are people losing their shit behind CNN?

i think they were booing corey, not sure

 

[anaron]

I just tuned back in. Why are people losing their shit behind CNN?

cuz Corey is trash

 

[brianmcdoogle]

God I wish Intrade was still around. Made a lot of money off delusional conservatives back in 2012.

Conspiracy: Silver is a gambler, and invests in the betting markets, so he keeps bringing them up stupidly to influence the markets and cash out. *takes off tin foil hat*

 

[Revolver]

Loving the people heckling Corey on CNN. "Anybody but Corey!" "Get him out of here!" "You're a fraud!"

 

[Slayven]

corey getting booed by people standing behind cnn media booth

I hope he disappears after Nov

 

[benjipwns]

I think we can all agree that the debate mods were the real winners.

no, the guy in the red sweater who spent the entire debate memorizing his question so he didn't have to read it was the mvp

 

[kevin1025]

i think they were booing corey, not sure

cuz Corey is trash

Oh good. There is hope still!

 

[Effect]

Hes talking about how pretty she is and how sweet her voice sounds. It's just totally irrelevant and only comes up for a woman.

Isn't he the one that said he got a tingle up his leg when Obama spoke/speaks?

 

[RustyNails]

WHY IS JAKE TAPPER A DICK

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Lindsay Gibbs ‏@linzsports 2 hours ago
Can Anderson Cooper follow me around to all of my meetings?

"Please let her talk, she didn't interrupt you."

Anderson Cooper 2024

 

[Thequietone]

By the way, why does Trump keep saying acid-washed emails?

It's really weird.

Doesn't understand cyber and parroting stuff he heard from his basket of deplorables. (God I wish she never said that now.)

 

[Slayven]

Corey is on crazy pills,

 

[kevin1025]

Don't you yell at Gloria, Corey. She's good people.

 

[Resident_UA]

Is there a breakdown of non-Russian Eastern European ancestry populations by state?

Because I can't imagine a single Ukrainian-American or Lithuanian-American is going to vote for Trump. Those vote totals might look like Indian-American vote totals.

As Ukrainian-American I can say that's it's mostly NY, NJ, and Chicago. So it's not going to impact elections much. Only older and very racists Ukrainian-Americans (every ethnic group has them) are still considering voting for Trump.

 

[Teggy]

By the way, why does Trump keep saying acid-washed emails?

It's really weird.

They used a program called bleachBit and Trump is an ignoramus.

 

[benjipwns]

By the way, why does Trump keep saying acid-washed emails?

It's really weird.

He's got a closet full of jeans he's been dying to wear for thirty years.

 

[PaulCRose]

Corey is deplorable.

 

[RustyNails]

Punished Lewandowsky is unhinged

 

[Thequietone]

Anderson Cooper 2024

Because she has nothing to say.


God, he was such a prick tonight.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

This is the second debate in a row that Trump has failed to mention his only policy proposal: Building a wall along the Mexican border.

This is actually really strange.

 

[User1608]

Lewandowski is truly a deplorable piece of crap. Can't wait for CNN to give him the boot when the election is over.

 

[johnsmith]

The only thing people are going to be talking about regarding this debate is how he said he would jail his political opponent if he wins. It's one of the most monstrous thing this monster has said.

 

[Grief.exe]

It's ironic when these surrogates continually bring up destroying cell phones when that is the literal policy for handling classified information when switching devices.