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PoliGAF 2016 |OT12| The last days of the Republic
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Randolph Freelander
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Tim Kaine wears jean shorts.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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When you say "production" around benji, he immediately starts ranting about seizing the means of production.
It's so impressive, just incredible.
It's so impressive, just incredible.
Officerrob
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Trump is out of ammo, he will keep trying the Bill Clinton stuff
Hillary will ignore it and do her thing
We all wait for the next Trump bombshell (which apparently everyone thinks/knows is out there)
Am I alone in thinking Trump was even worse than last time? Just unhinged and nasty, and even more obviously uninformed.
Of course, Hillary failed to bring her A-game and went into cautious-mode, so the media get to claim that Trump was 'much improved, beat expectations!'
Which is annoying, but I guess any result that preserves the trajectory is more than good enough.
Of course, Hillary failed to bring her A-game and went into cautious-mode, so the media get to claim that Trump was 'much improved, beat expectations!'
Which is annoying, but I guess any result that preserves the trajectory is more than good enough.
campfireweekend
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The only way I get this characterization is if you've read neither Piketty nor Marx.
Like Piketty doesn't want to seize any means of production, he just wants a global wealth tax. Ooh, "Marxism "
Black Mamba
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Yup, I said the same thing. He seemed way worse this time around.
Officerrob
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I think Trump was "better" simply because the Clinton team apparently thought it would be better to let Trump spout much of his bullshit with little pushback. Hillary left a lot on the table in that debate
Zelenogorsk
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My Trump supporting roommate just told me that Trump clearly won and the race is "closer than ever."
Can't wait for this election to be over.
Can't wait for this election to be over.
I've read both, thanks. Seriously not getting into it I've had too many debates about this at this point
Officerrob
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People were complaining about Kaine because he wouldn't stop interrupting and seemed shot out of a cannon. My wife compared Kaine to Trump with the rude interruptions
You don't bark back at a rabid dog
The media story around the debate is fascinating. Despite the polls saying Clinton won, no-one is able to say that. It's all her failure to deliver a knock out blow and his angry words. 'Stemmed the bleeding' is a phrase being used constantly across the media world.
Slightly concerned because we know that reactions on the night don't matter, and it's the post debate narrative that does - and right now for whatever reason the press is hellbent on 'draw with Trump doing better than thought' as a message. Clintons team had best be ready to go into overdrive for the next few days.
Slightly concerned because we know that reactions on the night don't matter, and it's the post debate narrative that does - and right now for whatever reason the press is hellbent on 'draw with Trump doing better than thought' as a message. Clintons team had best be ready to go into overdrive for the next few days.
Officerrob
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You don't stand there and let it chew on your leg either
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Deleted member 231381
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Piketty is absolutely nothing like Marx at all. There's a really good write-up in Le Monde that discusses this (in English, don't worry):
http://mondediplo.com/2015/05/12piketty
Piketty doesn't actually discuss capital, in the Marxist sense. He discusses wealth.
metalslimer
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Theres no harm when all it can do is hurt itself. Eventually it will be put down.
stenbumling
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It feels like a movie, and that we're at the part where the protagonist after some hardships have assembled an adequate entourage to once and for all defeat the antagonist, who is in his final form. This election must be rigged by Hollywood.
Man lol.
You can when all it's all bark and no bite lol
benjipwns
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Okay, so, when you search for old posts and are going through PoliGAF past you really come across a lot of banned people you forgot were regulars...anyway to answer this now.
my sparsly updated page of politik may inform or confuse: http://politologie.tumblr.com/
This list I made potatoman as the list of "benji essentials" I probably would not change...because it's not 100% agreement, it's general concepts being important. I still love Huemer, I don't care for his David Friedman like second half utopianism, but that's okay, because the first half is more key, same with others:
I agree more often with things found on:
https://c4ss.org/
http://praxeology.net/all-left.htm
Than I do with something like LewRockwell. (The website, not the guy.) reason is hit or miss and too electorally engaged I think. Although both also publish Sheldon Richman and Roderick T. Long (who owns praxeology.net) so it's more fair to say "writers on each" than to lump all writers on a site together. I mean the wrestler, Kane, wrote for LewRockwell after all.
Ayn Rand was a totalitarian, Objectivism is a totalitarian cult.
At the same time, this article for a website I never heard of that I see got posted today is really pretty accurate and funny: http://www.thelibertyconservative.com/become-left-libertarian/
I claim voluntaryism primarily for simplicity's sake.
my sparsly updated page of politik may inform or confuse: http://politologie.tumblr.com/
This list I made potatoman as the list of "benji essentials" I probably would not change...because it's not 100% agreement, it's general concepts being important. I still love Huemer, I don't care for his David Friedman like second half utopianism, but that's okay, because the first half is more key, same with others:
I agree more often with things found on:
https://c4ss.org/
http://praxeology.net/all-left.htm
Than I do with something like LewRockwell. (The website, not the guy.) reason is hit or miss and too electorally engaged I think. Although both also publish Sheldon Richman and Roderick T. Long (who owns praxeology.net) so it's more fair to say "writers on each" than to lump all writers on a site together. I mean the wrestler, Kane, wrote for LewRockwell after all.
Ayn Rand was a totalitarian, Objectivism is a totalitarian cult.
At the same time, this article for a website I never heard of that I see got posted today is really pretty accurate and funny: http://www.thelibertyconservative.com/become-left-libertarian/
Watch Journeys with George from Alexandra Pelosi. (Yes, of those Pelosi's.)
campfireweekend
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Cool, if you had that many debates and haven't changed your mind, you clearly have very personal reasons for believing it.I've read both, thanks. Seriously not getting into it I've had too many debates about this at this point
No point in arguing with that.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Trump immediately talking about "inner cities" when getting a question from a black man is underrated is how utterly insane and racist that moment was.
Best Q quote (really, the only one that matters in all of TNG)
campfireweekend
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I've taken classes under Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman, two colleagues and collaborators of Piketty. They all study inequality, and they're clearly all keynesians, and like not even wacky post-keynesians.
They've all been called Marxists, though it's usually by the right, so this is kinda odd.
"All the blacks. They live on one street in Chicago. It's called Hell street"
Basically a caricature of himself.
Thanks Benji! Your posts make a lot of sense now.
I have my disagreements with libertarianism (I don't just mean right libertarianism here) generally, but I do respect it. (I think nothing matters anyway I strongly believe all current economics will be upended within the next century.)
I have my disagreements with libertarianism (I don't just mean right libertarianism here) generally, but I do respect it. (I think nothing matters anyway I strongly believe all current economics will be upended within the next century.)
Yeah, I mean you can let it chew on you if the porcelain veneers are small and the bite is limp and small.
Many people are saying...
benjipwns
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Oh, very clever, Worf. Eat any good books lately?
Officerrob
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Princess Leia says he's on coke (politics in 2016)
I did not really notice the sniffling as much this time. I did notice his weird hand gestures and movements at points during the debate.
He's in for a tremendous, huge disappointment.
Officerrob
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Am I the only one who thought the sniffing was much worse this time?
Ah, yes. The funny ones.
aspiegamer
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Was at the goddamn football game so had to hear it on the radio later and am just getting video clips now.
Though it's true that Trump sounded simply awful most of the time, he didn't come across as poorly via voice only. Sniffling was DEAFENING on radio, though. His endless lie rants including that opening about the rape victim sounded really brutal and Clinton ignored all of it. I think it was the right decision to largely let all the lying go and talk on, but without more context it was cringey in places to know she was just letting go.
At about a half hour I was bored and for awhile in the middle I have no idea what the questions were or what anyone was actually trying to make a point about. Clinton on email was simply terrible, though. God. Her answer on "this is what I've done for 30 years" was her high point. Dropping actual truth bombs against bullshit on healthcare, immigration/diversity and energy were all great.
Trump bombed Syria/Russia, the tax confession, and locking her up so terribly that I'm curious if the video could possibly make my impressions any worse. Analysis that he was mostly talking to his base are on point, which is actually great for Clinton since he'll just keep bleeding within the actual party while looking like he stabilized things.
Were you to remove the despotic jailing threat and other few top whoppers it wouldn't have been worth my time to just listen to and it wasn't anywhere near as explosive as I thought it'd be. Not that that's bad. For Clinton's campaign that's perfect right now.
Though it's true that Trump sounded simply awful most of the time, he didn't come across as poorly via voice only. Sniffling was DEAFENING on radio, though. His endless lie rants including that opening about the rape victim sounded really brutal and Clinton ignored all of it. I think it was the right decision to largely let all the lying go and talk on, but without more context it was cringey in places to know she was just letting go.
At about a half hour I was bored and for awhile in the middle I have no idea what the questions were or what anyone was actually trying to make a point about. Clinton on email was simply terrible, though. God. Her answer on "this is what I've done for 30 years" was her high point. Dropping actual truth bombs against bullshit on healthcare, immigration/diversity and energy were all great.
Trump bombed Syria/Russia, the tax confession, and locking her up so terribly that I'm curious if the video could possibly make my impressions any worse. Analysis that he was mostly talking to his base are on point, which is actually great for Clinton since he'll just keep bleeding within the actual party while looking like he stabilized things.
Were you to remove the despotic jailing threat and other few top whoppers it wouldn't have been worth my time to just listen to and it wasn't anywhere near as explosive as I thought it'd be. Not that that's bad. For Clinton's campaign that's perfect right now.
benjipwns
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They're worth reading, tho.
sazzy
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Media outlets should clearly state that, when they that the debate was a new low and filled with insults, it was Donald who was flinging the shit all over the place; Clinton was trying her best to steer the debate towards policy.
Also, Donald is basically throwing a temper tantrum and directing it towards the Clinton camp - even though his lewd tapes were released by two independent media outlets.
Also, Donald is basically throwing a temper tantrum and directing it towards the Clinton camp - even though his lewd tapes were released by two independent media outlets.
cartoon_soldier
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Donald Trump asked for his opponent to be jailed.
Hillary Clinton said Donald attacks women.
Both sides narrative right there.
To be fair, Eighteenth Brumaire is both pretty short and also really fucking good
cartoon_soldier
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I just want the next piece of oppo to drop. I don't even want a Trump stopped the bleeding narrative.
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