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PoliGAF 2016 |OT16| Unpresidented
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Twitter is going to have to ban his account for posting fake news.
The normalization continues:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/donald-trump-presidency-poll-transition/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/donald-trump-presidency-poll-transition/index.html
"Poll: Looking ahead to a Trump presidency, a majority sees change"
I think the minority (and also minorities) also see change...
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If you can't see change in moving from Obama to Trump, something is seriously wrong with you.
shinra-bansho
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Post-purchase rationalisation: the poll.
Pew study on views of the election:
Pew study on views of the election:
Weird that change can be seen now when pre-election it was so hard to decide if there were any differences.
Carpe Libertatem
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NYT:
Amazing.
I get the feeling that in Trump's mind, "changing" the meeting terms back to the originally agreed upon ones counts as changing them.
Wouldn't surprise me if it was his people who agreed to that, then he found out and decided to cancel it.
cartoon_soldier
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Good question indeed. Bernie Bros ain't asking it either.
The Mr. Robot view of the world (corporations as the "true" evil) is absolute poison for the Dems if it takes hold.
Bahhhh... One by one my dreams die.
On a different topic:
https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/800881494524882944
Call for a Congressional Investigation: An Open Letter from Concerned Scholars
Dust in the wind. It goes nowhere.
balladofwindfishes
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They aren't asking it because they don't want the answer. That their one size fits all solution to all the country's problems doesn't work and isn't popular and isn't the future of the country.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Perhaps because of this:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...t_fresh_cash_into_wis_senate_race_132224.html
Koch Brothers targeted that race specifically with millions of negative ads.
Wow, so another lie. He lied about The Wall, he lied about repealing Obamacare (he's going to keep some of it apparently) and now this, LOCK HER UP! (nope).
And_Gignac
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Thank god Bernie never said pure populism was better and the only option to go forward! But let's see where the usual people (talking about pundits) misrepresenting Bernie's words leads now that there's not a political figure (Clinton) they can rally behind (Dean maybe? Lol).
That'd be a good outcome. Gabbard can get politically neutralized (at least from lefty politics) and she can even be coherent with herself and switch up to Trump's Republican Party.
balladofwindfishes
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Bernie's entire platform was that populism was the solution to all problems. Just redistributing wealth down would solve everything, whether it made sense or not. Racism, for example. We were super duper racist at the times in our history when we had the most money in the hands of the most people.
From this message, his supporters decided this was the future of the party and the only message that should apply going forward. And so anyone who doesn't agree with them should be cast aside and replaced with someone who says what they want to hear (despite maybe not having a great past)
There's no misrepresenting Bernie's words. There's a hole in power in the DNC and Bernie is making a clear power play to fill that hole with himself and people who support him. He's a politician like the rest of them, looking to make his name and gain more influence and power. And if that means turning the Democrat ship in a losing direction, so be it. Feingold should be a cautionary tale about the future of the party.
nature boy
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? The US signed the trade agreement, Congress has to ratify it (or not).
shinra-bansho
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There will be a political figure to rally behind come January.
Private citizen Barack Obama.
Private citizen Barack Obama.
The audacity of hope.
So how do you withdraw from it if you're not really in it
Seems like leaving a party you never went to
Nazgul_Hunter
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From the WaPo
Post-purchase rationalisation: the poll.
Pew study on views of the election:
"Voters"
Are these likely voters? Because those didnt show up.
shinra-bansho
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These are views of those polled on "voters" and how they behaved during the campaign.
Now we know the topic of tomorrow morning's tweetstorm.
metalslimer
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But the Clinton Foundation! Dave is one example of the true reporters I actually respect even though the media only gave a shit about the pussy tape.
Once again Sanders has the answers.
The new norm in American politics. Your future president actually breaks laws, yet nothing happens.
A qualified woman doesn't break a law, but acts irresponsibly and she is dragged on an hourly basis by the entire US.
Ferenthold and WaPo probably has a special place in the internment camp when Trump is sworn in.
Androidsleeps
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Not America, nor the world, can take 4 years of Trump's daily shenanigans. He has to be impeached/resign asap.
David Fahrenthold
David Fahrenthold‏ @Fahrenthold
Also, @realDonaldTrump's charity got $150K frm activist Ukrainian mogul who gave to Clinton Fdn, raising conflict of interest Q's for HRC.
Fuck this country and fuck the people who chose not to vote against this asshole.
David Fahrenthold‏ @Fahrenthold
Also, @realDonaldTrump's charity got $150K frm activist Ukrainian mogul who gave to Clinton Fdn, raising conflict of interest Q's for HRC.
Fuck this country and fuck the people who chose not to vote against this asshole.
His video seems to have worked. All the comments on it are people thanking him for bypassing the crooked media.
... we are so fucked.
NYT:
Amazing.
I think I need to subscribe to NYtimes. Torn because I thought they were shit in the other direction against Clinton and not enough against Trump...
Slurpy2k20
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Hey guys, just to clarify, it's the fault of liberals that Trump has such strong support from white nationalists. He has nothing to do with it. Thanks for clearing that up Kaleigh!
https://youtu.be/g_Zrb1cTlNo
https://youtu.be/g_Zrb1cTlNo
balladofwindfishes
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I wonder if the Civil Rights Act is in danger.
It's never brought up, but they could very easily start picking away at the laws against segregation, especially if they start shifting the courts to their side.
It's never brought up, but they could very easily start picking away at the laws against segregation, especially if they start shifting the courts to their side.
Maybe they'll earmark zoning law changes in the infrastructure bill.
metalslimer
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I don't think so but any lgbt protections are in danger.
I'd like to think Kennedy would swing our way on those votes but he might be gone by the time it reaches the supreme court.
This is why we need to scrap Obamacare.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/grap...tw/te/bl/ed/trumpsucceedswherehealthisfailing
It's the true solution to the republican menace.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/grap...tw/te/bl/ed/trumpsucceedswherehealthisfailing
It's the true solution to the republican menace.
Joe Shlabotnik
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balladofwindfishes
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In theory, an interpretation of the CRA would also apply to sexual orientation, since non-discrimination is in the spirit of the law (as it includes race and gender).
The thing with lgbt issues is, imo, attacking those is the biggest hot button to get liberals to vote. Mike Pence being so against gay people has gotten my sister, who normally really doesn't care about politics, to be all ready to go to bat for gay rights. And even for me, if a person has a history of being against gay marriage, they will NEVER get my vote. Ever. You are instantly off my list and I won't even consider your other positions. And neither my sister, nor I, are gay. Nobody in our family is gay.
And we saw in NC, that it brought Democrats out to vote when trans rights were attacked.
It's like the left's version of abortion. Democrats really, really like gay people. It's one of the best examples of a Democrat success story in modern times. In a decade the country went from basically nothing to full marriage rights across the entire country. It's probably the one hot button issue that actually gets Democrats moving in an organized fashion with results.
nature boy
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SO MUCH W
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This is why we need to scrap Obamacare.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/grap...tw/te/bl/ed/trumpsucceedswherehealthisfailing
It's the true solution to the republican menace.
health is failing in poorer populations. their premiums are flying. there is a reason why they dont like obamacare.
Let's agree with them and take away their health insurance.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
It's called captolasim!
Is it, though? If LGBT rights was as big a hot button issue as you think, Cooper would have soundly trounced McCrory and not sitting at a possible fraudlent loss to a transphobe who doesn't know how to take the fucking L.
Lynch publically stated she would protect transgendered individuals, and Obama put several excutive actions into place, but both of those are gone minute 1 when Trump and his Anti-Gay Clown Posse get into office.
LGBT rights is no longer the hot button issue. Hell, issues are no longer the hot button issue. Politics are slowly becoming about who you can get excited to vote for, not who has the better policy to protect the most vulernable americans.
metalslimer
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Well I guess they can go back to having nothing then. Should probably cut medicare and medicaid as well since that also costs money.
balladofwindfishes
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LGBT rights are a big enough issue that companies are willing to relocate or pull business from areas that pass bigoted laws.
Not even racism necessarily has that same backing.
Not even racism necessarily has that same backing.
TumblingHippo
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Even LGBT folk who voted for Trump probably don't think it's an issue anymore. They willingly put into power people who want to take away their rights.
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