whyamihere
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Man. If McCrory ends up stealing the election (and like, legitimately stealing, not just bending the rules or trying to stop people from going to the polls), nothing matters. Nothing fucking matters.
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whyamihere
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lol, Marc Elias (the Dem lawyer who is winning all the voting rights cases across the country and is handling Cooper's case for NC gov) is great:
balladofwindfishes
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Doing something like that has to ensure the state shifts blue faster than it already was, right?
It HAS to.
whyamihere
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Ah.
God fucking dammit.
Destroying Trump even more than Gore destroyed Bush.
Dem turn up higher in blue states, but was down or counteracted by Obama voters flipping Trump in battle ground states.
VendettaRed07
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Maybe the way to fight Trump is to get dems behind the scenes to worm-tongue him and tell him how pretty his hair looks.
metalslimer
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The electoral college will distort just how close this election was
And I think I may have to quit following politics if McCrory winds up winning.
And I think I may have to quit following politics if McCrory winds up winning.
VendettaRed07
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North Carolina's Republican Governor is trying to steal the election. Suppressing African Americans wasn't enough for these guys.
https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/800822998437662721
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/...to_steal_the_north_carolina_governorship.html
Very thread worthy.
That's getting very close to Bush vs. Kerry levels of "mandate"
whyamihere
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For comparison's sake, Obama beat Romney by 4.98 million votes.
what higher law is being violated though
Been my call for a while now. Bamboozle him from behind the scenes and oppose him in all other arenas. Confuse the fuck.
And McCain by almost 10mil. But that was before America lost it's shit.
Again.
Going back through the election, other than Gore vs Bush, the last time a person won without the popular vote was back in the late 1800s.
Outside of judicial fuckery (I'm looking at you Florida and SCOTUS), the electoral college works... Except when you have white nationalists running.
It's kinda crazy how their has only ever been one example of a political party in Canada on the federal side winning an election without winning the popular vote in the last 40 years or so while there have been two examples of this in the US in the last 16 years.
Hilary may win CA by around 4 million votes if there are not enough trump favourable areas in the state for votes to come in from at this point.
Hilary may win CA by around 4 million votes if there are not enough trump favourable areas in the state for votes to come in from at this point.
Poodlestrike
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Is there not something in the NC state constitution about the guy who gets the most votes winning orrrrr
Beer Monkey
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Every law is accountable to the US Constitution and therefore to the Supreme Court, and therefore to all the courts in between the state and the SC.
The part of the law that says it is not accountable to higher courts is therefore invalid.
Mikurden
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This occurred to me too -- I think it's why Sanders has said in recent appearances that Trump is an intelligent guy. You really can't afford to insult this thin-skinned, egotistical idiot or he will reflexively oppose whatever you stand for.
whyamihere
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She always does this.
Brawndo Addict
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But you know who else is connected with [1]? That's right, Mr. X. You see 25 years ago Mr. X was involved in creating [3], and Mr. X routinely worked with Mrs. Y on [3]. Mrs. Y, as you know, is most well-known for her work with [2] back in the 90s. And as part of [2], Mrs. Y often met with, you guessed it, Mr. Z, who just so happens to be wrapped up in....that's right, [1]. And by following that chain of history we can clearly see that 1+2=3.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
They are apparently going that way, i'd love for a lawyer to weigh in on what will likely happen.
My law experience amounts to a few college courses, lol.
RustyNails
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If it goes to a recount, it's a losing proposition for Mcrony. Losers rarely ever win recounts. There's no way they can snuff 5000 votes. And Cooper's team will also throw away his opponent's votes. As far as a new election is concerned, I highly doubt they are going to throw away the results of this election run by freaking Republicans over a few thousand votes thereby invalidating the voice of millions of voters and campaigns that ran for months.
Are you talking about him losing?
If you are I put it at zero. McCroy is just going to keep doing what he is doing now until he finally stops.
Yeah... But... Men in women's bathrooms, yo.
The Chosen One
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In Politico's article about Trump's meeting with the media, there was this little nugget.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/11/donald-trump-media-transition-tension-231727
At first glance, this would be news that Romney actually wants the job. However knowing Trump, he's probably planting the story in the media that Romney "really wants" the job, so he can be seen as "rejecting" Romney when he gives the Sect. of State position to someone else and rub it in his face. Personally though I think Romney is probably on the fence about the job. It's obviously a very high profile position but it would also put him front and center in a Trump admin. The jury is out whether he would have the strongest influence on foreign policy or whether Trump would lean more on his crazy inner circle, essentially making Romney the front man for their suspect foreign policies.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/11/donald-trump-media-transition-tension-231727
At first glance, this would be news that Romney actually wants the job. However knowing Trump, he's probably planting the story in the media that Romney "really wants" the job, so he can be seen as "rejecting" Romney when he gives the Sect. of State position to someone else and rub it in his face. Personally though I think Romney is probably on the fence about the job. It's obviously a very high profile position but it would also put him front and center in a Trump admin. The jury is out whether he would have the strongest influence on foreign policy or whether Trump would lean more on his crazy inner circle, essentially making Romney the front man for their suspect foreign policies.
I still can't believe bernie sanders got over 5% of the vote in Vermont as a write-in.
Also. Good news
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/800896707093495808
Also. Good news
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/800896707093495808
That is very very worrisome. McCrory is basically fighting until such time as his Republican state legislature can just appoint him as the governor. That is sickening. People should be in the streets over this shit if it happens.
RustyNails
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Yep. This will probably go like Al Franken-Coleman election in 2008. Dont fear a recount.
Ether_Snake
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I agree with what Obama is doing. Keep it cool, be blameless. Once you're out and shit starts hitting the fan, you can attack him, and it will come from someone who helped him out earlier by being professional. He's handling this the right way. If he didn't do this, any criticism he would throw later would have a very diminished effect. What can damage Trump is "associates" who then turn on him later.
Yep, it's exactly as I described earlier today. That's what I think he's doing.
Yep, it's exactly as I described earlier today. That's what I think he's doing.
shinra-bansho
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Is Tulsi Gabbard actually stupid or opportunistic enough to take a role in the Trump administration. Setting aside she was stupid and opportunistic enough to go to this meeting.
She's not stupid but definitely opportunistic. That's why she hangs out with republican lobbyists.
Sirpopopop
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Most folks I know in education despise Rhee. She's good for union busting & not much else.
RastaMentality
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https://medium.com/@TulsiGabbard/my-meeting-with-donald-trump-dadffadf36b5#.wzqnq4y2a
Her full write up on the meeting.
Obama does have a tricky position. He can't make this look like a resistance to the transfer of power, but once he's a private citizen he can raise hell.
Ether_Snake
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Funny. She went to see Trump to tell him what he wanted to hear, since he's been basically saying the same all along.
Beer Monkey
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So you want to enable Russia's murderous conquering. Fuck you Tulsi.
So she's aligned with Trump on his foreign policy. Good to know.
BreezyLimbo
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The things she advocates for are well, not bad. But because it's with trump fuck her.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Oh, it's not that simple. In particular:
Russia has not gotten nearly enough coverage of their total disregard of civilians and infrastructure such as hospitals.
There is a good argument that their actions were intentional, making it far worse.
Ether_Snake
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For those who don't know, she has been saying this back in 2015. She says the US keeps fighting secular governments instead of Islamists-supporting ones. She is pretty much aligned with Trump and has been for a while.
CNN interview in 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Q8X60KQ9Q
CNN interview in 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Q8X60KQ9Q
I don't like this. Rhee's vision of public education is to basically leave our most vulnerable students in the dust.
BreezyLimbo
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Tbf I'm a bit of an isolationist myself, in that Syria is just simply a power struggle between Russia and American interests. If either the US or Russia could make Syria into their puppet government today, they would. And hey, look at what happened in Afghanistan with the Mujahideen. Government-backed forces fought against soviet-backed forces and it was all just a disaster.
Like yeah it sucks that the citizens are caught inbetween russia, the us, and the dictator.
RustyNails
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Secular governments have been the most ferocious, brutal, murderous, kill-count wise, in middle-east. What's your point?
RustyNails
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