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PoliGAF 2016 |OT16| Unpresidented
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CrimzonSamurai
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Someone else. Or Kander, if he doesn't want to sleep in the Governor's Mansion for a few years.
George Clooney or Joe Biden.
Ken Bone.
gutter_trash
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that's what we said about Trump
Thunder Monkey
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I've noticed a trend of most candidates being too old or close to death in the Democratic Party.
CrimzonSamurai
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There is literally no one who would alienate both Obama-Trump flippers and the base more.
If we're going with celebrity, it's gotta be Colbert.
cartoon_soldier
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Michelle Obama .p
RastaMentality
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China really won this year.
Xin Jinping is a very power-hungry man...
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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I'll honestly be pretty hopeful humanity can survive anything if we survive this.
Someone else. The democratic party needs a young, smart, charismatic nominee. Basically, America's Justin Trudeau.
IAmAnAgnostic
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Le Pen is polling with 30% at most and the elections aren't that far off. Every 1vs1 still results in her loss.
eBay Huckster
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Out of the names I've seen on this page:
Kander will be 39 (and holy fuckin' shit I thought he was 10 years older)
Harris will be 56
Clooney will be 59
Warren will be 71
Biden will be 77
In 2008, Obama was 47. In October of last year, Trudeau was 43.
Thunder Monkey
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Was there some international suicide pact I wasn't aware of?
cartoon_soldier
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Well yes but he still might be more reasonable than Putin, Trump and others.
I was sitting with a group of friends the day after the election that consisted of people from America, South Korea, Malaysia, and China and I remarked that China's leader is the most sane of out of the bunch.
Democracy lost.
cartoon_soldier
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Because he isn't dumb like Trump neither is China a failed state like Russia.
Fair enough.
titiklabingapat
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How are Dean's chances of getting the DNC Chair back so far? Dead on the water because of Ellison?
I'm seriously getting a Corbyn-led Labour vibes because of the emboldened Busters. Hope I'm wrong.
I'm seriously getting a Corbyn-led Labour vibes because of the emboldened Busters. Hope I'm wrong.
StopMakingSense
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And China's assholishness is hella predictable.
China being the most reasonable. In 2016.
I never expected to type/read that but here we are.
It should have never been a politicized position. Whether Dean is out depends on the voice of Bernie.
StopMakingSense
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Eh, DNC chair isn't that big of a deal in terms of general public perception.
eBay Huckster
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In any event, the French election is looking like it's going to be one of Juppe, Sarkozy or Macron vs Le Pen
and I like all three of their chances against her
and I like all three of their chances against her
titiklabingapat
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China also has the most to lose if the current world order is turned on its head.
cartoon_soldier
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Yes.
And the world will already look at China and Germany for leadership now with Trump at the helm.
CrimzonSamurai
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In terms of support of winnable candidates and getting them elected though, it is. We need a dirty som'bitch. Not some ideologue.
titiklabingapat
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It's not for public perception but it's very important for the structural backbone of the Dems, and the chances of a strong rebound. Dean was responsible for the increase in Dem state House and Senate control before he was forced out by Emmanuel which started the current trend of hemorrhage of local Dem legislators.
Dean was party chair during the periods of increases using his 50 State Strategy until he was forced out in 2009.
IAmAnAgnostic
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I am very comfortable in saying that she essentially no chance of winning. You can't just take Trump's victory and Brexit and say that any upcoming vote will be won by the right.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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StopMakingSense
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Eh, the DNC chair really isn't that important, its more herding cats (the state parties). State parties have a lot more influence on the candidates than anything else.
eBay Huckster
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i don't disagree, just trying to say "le pen is probably not gonna win"
I know this might be dumb of to say this but after believing a Trump presidency won't happen, I don't want to jinx anything...
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Sarkozy is that asshole who wants burkinis banned and wants to force Muslims and Jews to eat pork just to humiliate Muslims.
It better not end up as Sarkozy vs. Le Pen...
It better not end up as Sarkozy vs. Le Pen...
China will be the most reasonable global player because they want to enjoy and prolong their steady rise to global super power without desperate/moronic leaders in other countries creating unpredictable chaos or dragging China into international conflicts that they don't have any stake in or anything to gain from.
None of the above. Warren could be fine as a VP w/ the right partner.
It needs to be someone young.
Tulsi Gabbard.
I am deeply confused why this kind of political pragmatism isn't already a thing with the Dems. It also makes me realise why the talk of "Don't mention minorities to the WWC so we can get their vote" is an issue - because the Dems campaign nationwide on values that the nation as a whole doesn't fully support.
I mean, of course your down-ticket is going to be screwed with that philosophy.
In that vein, then, the Dems should drop gun control as nation-wide issue, and play-up individual State rules on guns. Because you can't really apply the same standard to Missouri/Kansas/Alabama as Washington/California/DC, so why even bother? It just costs votes for no reason.
Abortion shouldn't be dropped as a nation-wide rule, though. Play into it as Dems - The party of Women's Rights. Will definitely antagonise some voters, but everyone is going to have this issue affect them at some level. WWC don't interact with AA, so they won't care about minority rights, but they sure as hell care about accidentally getting their wives pregnant, or their sister having to carry a rapist's child to term.
Also, that Kate McKinnon cold-open got me crying again.
BreezyLimbo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs&app=desktop
Just getting around to watching John Pies video. Boy it's something. He's angry. He has some points that are valid.
Man. I need more of this stuff. It's sobering.
Just getting around to watching John Pies video. Boy it's something. He's angry. He has some points that are valid.
Man. I need more of this stuff. It's sobering.
ryutaro's mama
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Isn't Clooney a Republican?
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