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All things considered, I'll take it.
Fuck.
Isn't this a slap in the face to some Trump loyalists though?
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All things considered, I'll take it.
Fuck.
Isn't this a slap in the face to some Trump loyalists though?
Here you go, March 2, 2016:
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/03/01/...uper-tuesday-brazile/index.html?client=safari
whyamihere
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Hmm. Bannon got first billing over Reince.
SerAardvark
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I doubt it.
It's probably more that (1) He's a bone to throw to establishment/less Trump-happy Republicans and (2) I'm not sure how visible they want Bannon to be given the negative stuff surrounding him and Breitbart. Not sure how well it'll go over, but given some of the names thrown around for other positions there'll be other opportunities to mollify his "true" supporters.
I was wrong. Look at the screenshot he pulled up. While CNN referred to her as a vice chairman, the DNC website referred to her as a Vice Chair.
RastaMentality
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Reince oversaw the most far right platform in decades. i know they don't mean much but the guy seems like a party loyalist who will do anything to win elections. The GOP won everywhere with the Wall at the top of the ticket. he might not actually care about putting moderate stuff through.
Chief of Staff is a big deal. Call it what you want but Priebus, who was Michael Steele's protege, is probably nowhere near as crazy as some of the other yahoos (i.e. Banon) he could've gone with.
No, you were right.
The DNC has numerous affiliated subcommittees, of which the leaders of these committees are called Vice Chairs. However, the DNC itself properly has a Vice Chair. And that spot was empty in March 2016.
I think you're missing the point.
MIMIC is here, again stuck on events of the past.
I'm not interested in whether Brazile did what or whatever. I presented the information I did because I hoped he would just let it goddamn go. Because the primaries are over. The election is over. Brazile is an interim chair. She'll be out soon. The leaders of the Dem party have evaluated Ellison and it looks like he's going to be the chair.
So why is this being gone over and over and over again, when none of us here are complaining now about how false the narratives in the Sanders groups were? Are we literally going to spend forever with the losers of the primaries with them doing something as wonderfully productive as "You suck, you suck, you suck, you suck"? Do you want people to spend the next four years talking about how shit the Sanders campaign was, how shit their candidate was, how shitty they are for buying into even right-wing lies and propaganda, that they apparently are even shittier than the campaign they call the shittiest ever, because they lost to this campaign?
No, I don't want that. I'm not interested in that. I wish the Sanders people could also let go.
Bannon is still directing strategy from the White House. They just get a half-competent party hack to execute that strategy now.
Thinking about Bannon and Russia/WikiLeaks... it's so obvious that the Democrats are going to be facing huge uphill battle against the institutions of government being wielded against us that will make the Benghazi/email hearings and fucking Watergate look like a walk in the park.
It's a good thing the media is recognizing this fascist monster for what he is, considering he's doing exactly what he said he would. Shame they didn't feel the need to underscore that point before November 8, but hey, emails.
Thinking about Bannon and Russia/WikiLeaks... it's so obvious that the Democrats are going to be facing huge uphill battle against the institutions of government being wielded against us that will make the Benghazi/email hearings and fucking Watergate look like a walk in the park.
It's a good thing the media is recognizing this fascist monster for what he is, considering he's doing exactly what he said he would. Shame they didn't feel the need to underscore that point before November 8, but hey, emails.
metalslimer
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I don't think we can use traditional history to determine who is going to have the most influence.
Dubbedinenglish
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The Trump org still having his name is a pretty massive conflict of interest. Don't hold your breath on the GOP holding him accountable.
RastaMentality
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this entire thing is Conflict of Interest: The Presidency.
Doc Holliday
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Jesus Christ, Steve Bannon, man this I can't get over how fucked up this whole thing is.
SerAardvark
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Yeah, Priebus is not as crazy as Bannon but he still was behind the hard-right platform the Republicans put together, worked closely with guys like Paul Ryan and Scott Walker to get them in power and backed Trump the whole way too. I'm glad the CoS position didn't go to a virulently hateful guy like Bannon, but "better than Bannon" is a really low bar to set.
Plus, with Bannon being the chief strategist, it's not like his influence is going to be gone. Given Priebus' past work in Wisconsin to integrate Tea Party and "establishment" party types together, I think his role is going to be more along those lines than having Trump's ear - Priebus is just the guy to smooth over intra-party conflicts.
Ethic laws don't count for the President, I think is the argument.
Or he'll just officially divest from Breitbart while still running things behind the scene.
:/ true.
Maybe we can hope for accountability at some point post-presidency? IDK just grasping at straws for hope here.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I didn't say it was completely off the table. Just that it would take a special candidate. I don't know if Michigan has one right now on the Democratic side.
I'd take this right now, to be honest.
I'll believe this when I see it. I have hope they won't be stupid enough to think people will think HSAs are a good replacement.
I know what they're trying to do. They're going to allow high-risk pools with outrageous rates so they can say, "See? You can still get insurance!" But that is why people on both sides were furious in the first place. It's going to backfire.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The world takes approximately 70 years to turn upside down.
I guess Reince as CoS is the least worst option out of this nightmare, but we all know there are going to be constant fights between Priebus and Bannon all the time, and Trump will intervene only on behalf on who can fluff his ego more.
Trump's 60 Minutes interview shows he still doesn't want to be seen as a flip flopper but behind the scenes it's still a fight between the Ryan wing of the party and Bannon's alt-right.
This is going to be a clusterfuck. Without Hillary to rant against as "the establishment" Trump will probably just redirect his populist anger towards protesters and the majority of the country that didn't vote for him.
Trump's 60 Minutes interview shows he still doesn't want to be seen as a flip flopper but behind the scenes it's still a fight between the Ryan wing of the party and Bannon's alt-right.
This is going to be a clusterfuck. Without Hillary to rant against as "the establishment" Trump will probably just redirect his populist anger towards protesters and the majority of the country that didn't vote for him.
Doc Holliday
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shinra-bansho
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Who the fuck cares what Donna Brazile was other than an idiot.
My god. You people are never winning anything ever again.
My god. You people are never winning anything ever again.
He's already found his new enemy: the media.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I think there are going to be considerable battles between Ryan/Pence and Trump over things relatively quickly. Trump wants to be liked. It's going to destroy his ego to have a low approval rating. If they destroy health care, that's going to happen.
Banon can still fuck things up imo, since he's going to be consigliere to the big boss. I can't imagine he's a big fan of establishment types like Ryan.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing... Who would've thought. I mean, Sarkozy is still more liberal than Trump, but now even he is in danger of falling to the far-right Le Pen.
I won't even try to analyze how that will go. Any hope that Segolene Royal could rescue the Socialist?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
As I said, I'd take this, but I have my doubts because the officials are far more right than Bush's at similar positions.
Third Strike
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Trudeau doesn't count?
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plagiarize
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I just saw Ryan saying 'go to better.gop to see what we've offered.'
So I did.
And I got a blank white page with nothing on it.
I know it's just that they don't support my browser, but it seemed incredibly fitting.
So I did.
And I got a blank white page with nothing on it.
I know it's just that they don't support my browser, but it seemed incredibly fitting.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Sarkozy is horrible, he needs to lose his primary in the center-right party to Juppe.
RastaMentality
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Karl Rove was Senior Advisor. Everybody remembers him and not Andy Card (credit to pigeon for pointing this out).
I have hope that he steps up to the plate, but Canada is just not that important (it is big tho).
I can only hope my country, Mexico, finally wakes up in 2018 and elects a progressive president. But every single major party is a mess, all three or four of them. Only the center-right conservative PAN have sort-of their shit together, but the former first lady who's running to be its nominee, has taken a hit after HIllary's loss (that's what pundits believe, anyway).
And the perennial populist left candidate, Andres Manuel, isn't as popular with youth anymore.
SporeCrawler
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Think of Bannon as Karl Rove but unlike Rove he's a mad man and will probably do himself in by over playing his hand.
shinra-bansho
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Lmao have we really gone from both sides are the same to this isn't that bad at least he's not an anti-semitic hateful propaganda merchant... who will still be Senior WH Counsel.
That's... exactly what I already did lol
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I guess the operative question is how power is actually divided. But COS has inherent authorities that advisers do not.
@RyanLizza
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The press release calls them "equal partners," which is unusual. Even Bush WH maintained fiction that Rove was under Andy Card.
I guess the operative question is how power is actually divided. But COS has inherent authorities that advisers do not.
@RyanLizza
Ryan Lizza Retweeted David Axelrod
The press release calls them "equal partners," which is unusual. Even Bush WH maintained fiction that Rove was under Andy Card.
This is true. And Bannons profile has certainly risen, press not going to ignore him
Edit: Also "inherent authorities" is BS. He was whatever authority Trump imbues him with regardless of title. Moreso the COS has inherent responsibilities that senior advisor is free to not give a shit about.
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Considering that Trump's first tweet after his win was bitching about the media, it's a clear sign that he intends to wage war against the press, not out of spite, but out of a concerted desire to control it. His phrasing is just for public consumption, but behind the scene they are looking into doing whatever they can to provoke media criticism, and then point their fingers at them to justify whatever action they'll take.
And the media, like a herd of cattle, will walk calmly and willingly to the slaughterhouse.
Jesus, our country...
That's not going to be beneficial. Who is going to hold people accountable for the next 4 to 8 years. If you throw the media under the bus then there will be no accountability.
The media didn't do this. The Electorate did. And more than half of the electorate voted against him.
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