the media deserves a scolding because they refused to hold Trump accountable for the sake of their own benefit until it was too late. The media's corporate-connections cannot help itself from showing how unfit he is to serve as president.
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the media deserves a scolding because they refused to hold Trump accountable for the sake of their own benefit until it was too late. The media's corporate-connections cannot help itself from showing how unfit he is to serve as president.
The media has a huge, huge influence on the electorate and it was their bullshit that made this happen because they profit on controversy. I don't want the media neutered and powerless, but I want them to be fucked with by Trump just enough so that they realize their stake in this.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Matt Yglesias has been a fucking beast on Twitter and Vox the last two weeks.
LostMyNarbles
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Have any websites done a report on the GOP's healthcare plan yet? I'm reading through it now and would like to get a more detailed analysis as to what it all means.
RastaMentality
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Unless you read A Better Way by Paul Ryan, there really isn't a plan besides that.
No one person/entity did this. There are a few things at fault.
But it is undeniable, at least to me, that the media not doing its job ranks near the top.
When it can objectively be demonstrated that all major media outlets spent more time convering Hillary Clinton's emails than the top 5 major policy issues COMBINED, then the media wasn't doing its job, and they helped cause this.
When the media spent more time arguing whether or not an A rated charity that literally saves lives should be shut down, and not the Russian government influencing our election and the FBI covering it up, the media done fucked up.
Our news media ain't shit.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
LostMyNarbles
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That's what I'm reading now, I just was wondering if there was anything that goes deeper than what is being suggested. The whole doesn't really explain how they are doing X only what you get out of it.
RastaMentality
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There isn't! Because the GOP spent the past 6 years bitching about repealing Obamacare but not really offering any solutions.
I think all the left wants the media to do is start reporting every single fuck up thing that the Trump administration would do. Report on it, and let the people rage out in protests.
What was absolutely damning in my eyes was post-election analysis showing a combined 32 minutes of policy coverage across the media over the ENTIRE general election. That's fucking terrible and absolutely cannot happen again if we're going to put up credible candidates going forward.
Don't even start with fuck ups. Report what the Trump campaign is doing, period.
Because when most of the people that voted for Trump don't actually believe he will do the things he says -- despite the fact that he's appointed people like Bannon -- that is a failure of the media to underscore who Trump actually is. Which is to say: a fascist.
You're already seeing it with the Reince news. The news isn't Reince. But the media can't help but take the bait and follow the "oh he's moderating now! olive branch to paul ryan!!" narrative because they've already written it in their head. They think they know how this will play out.
My dad, a 65 year-old lifelong Republican, straight-up said to me today that he really thinks Trump is going to be the next Reagan. Which is goddamn hilarious because this time last year, he hated Trump because "he's not a real conservative/Republican". Funny how he's suddenly all positive about Trump now that he's actually in the White House despite the fact that he's the exact same person that he was last year. He also said that all of these people in major cities protesting Trump's election are just "spoiled millenials".
Yeah, every now and then my dad reminds me why I never ever talk politics with him.
Yeah, every now and then my dad reminds me why I never ever talk politics with him.
Exactly. That was absolutely appalling.
I don't want to agree with the right on ANYTHING. But if the thing we come together on is mutual contempt for major media in the US, I can't say I'm mad. Nor can I say it ISN'T right.
The way major media treated this election was not just embarrassing, not just unfair to Hillary Clinton. It was contemptible. Shameful. At no point after this year can major media claim to be a tool to inform the American people.
For almost every news anchor I suffered through this year, I don't care about your degrees, your years in the field, your silver hair and obnoxious lip pouting (Cooper), your accolades, and your cries of journalistic integrity. As far as I'm concerned, most of your just glorified E! pop culture jockeys in uglier suits.
I wouldn't totally dismiss the notion that Trump is doing it out of spite.
NYCmetsfan
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The one thing is that the media might be really fucking hard on the anti-semtism angle. Its not only an attack on their profession, but many's personal lives. I only wish minorities were as well represented to defend themselves.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The media hopefully survives, but it would be fitting that the both sides media slit their own throat by pretending that "EMAILS!" was important.
UltimaPooh
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Wise decision. I was lucky I supposed since we were pretty much up and down Democrats... me being the more progressive of the bunch.
Religion tho... We never spoke about that as they are Catholic and I have been an Atheist for most of my adult life.
RastaMentality
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Trump hired Bannon and how long did the media talk about that?
I'm going to be optimistic and hope that the media merely reports on everything they do good and bad. We have to remember that they value ratings above all else and Trump doing crazy shit as president will bring in ratings. They've already done reports on Trump's early flip-flopping and walking back of campaign promises. That's a start I suppose.
This may be a bit too optimistic but it's about all we have at the moment.
This may be a bit too optimistic but it's about all we have at the moment.
excelsiorlef
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The world takes approximately 70 years to turn upside down.
I like that apparently Canada doesn't count.... probably not inaccurate though...
excelsiorlef
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All those bullshit hand wringing articles about the "death of free speech" due to "PC Culture", College Campus safe space and trigger warnings are going to look hilarious as fuck if Trump gets his way.
More_Badass
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You and me both. I live at home though, and have to hear my dad listening to Mark Levin every night
excelsiorlef
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whyamihere
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Oh man, Breitbart is about to be our very own Russia Today.
Dominican Power
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Bannon is gonna be all in Trump's ear.
NYCmetsfan
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https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/797940403613810689
I like that Kander is still fighting. He's gonna be important in these states we have to take back
I like that Kander is still fighting. He's gonna be important in these states we have to take back
Dubbedinenglish
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Maybe I'm being irrational but the Trump plan of expanding the armed forces has me extremely nervous. He wants to expand the Marines by 50% alone. History has proven time and time again you don't swell the military ranks to have them at peace.
metalslimer
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I hope CNN's ratings fall off a cliff and he completely stonewalls them. At times, Fox News fought back against him more than CNN.
StormBrute
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Just wanted to pop in and say how much I loathe Steve Bannon and Donald Trump. Nothing more to add than that, just wanted to pop in and mention it.
THE GREAT ONE
sunshine and gasoline
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It is probably just talk and/or a desire to make the military seem strong to appeal to those that would like that than any real desire to start some wars. Of course, we shouldn't dismiss the idea because god knows what Trump could be thinking right now.
BreezyLimbo
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Isn't that like always a point with Republicans? "ARE MILITARY ARE DEPLETED, WE MUST REBUILD IT". I swear to god every Republican always makes it a sticking point to rebuild the military.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
My issue with this is--do we have that many people waiting in the wings to be Marines?
The scariest thing of it all is that no one knows what he will do now. Even Trump probably doesn't know what he wants to do now since he didn't see this coming either.
I take a nap and seems like everything went to hell again.
Seems unlikely since they gave Corey a platform. It's outlets like NYT that Trump would target first.
Seems unlikely since they gave Corey a platform. It's outlets like NYT that Trump would target first.
nature boy
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OH SHIT HERE WE GO
sunshine and gasoline
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Basically, having a big/strong military is like bragging about cock size. Even though the US has the strongest military in the world by far it can always be bigger/stronger. -_-
I fear any situation where Trump has to decide whether to exercise military force/action or not in matters where it isn't necessary to do so.
BreezyLimbo
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Paying jobs for rural whites that let's them live their fantasies of ethnic violence? Hell yes you do.
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