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Gruco

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Nate Silver is still pushing the idea that Rubio can sweep everything after Super Tuesday, but where in the world would that momentum come from?
There is only one answer to this question. The momentum comes from the hopes and dreams that Silver has been funneling into his desperate Rubio fanfictions. It comes from the desperate need to not be a laughing stock after doubling down on the impossibility of Trump for the entire cycle.
 

Bowdz

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Nate Silver is still pushing the idea that Rubio can sweep everything after Super Tuesday, but where in the world would that momentum come from?

Really?!?

Come on Nate. All post ST polls they have on their own site have Trump leading in those states. It is going to be incredibly hard for Rubio to gain any momentum when Trump has won 13 states, Cruz has won 2, and Rubio 0.
 
Nate Silver is still pushing the idea that Rubio can sweep everything after Super Tuesday, but where in the world would that momentum come from?

Nate has convinced himself that Cruz is going to drop out. Which there is no chance of if he wins Texas, especially as he could very well finish the week ahead of Rubio in delegates with Rubio being down big in the polls in Florida.
 
I just don't get the insistence of people saying that Bernie is the next FDR and we are just throwing him away by not electing him

Do people realize the bullying, corruption, illegal and immoral things that FDR had to do in order to achieve the type of political power he got? Sure he used it to push through good legislation but the man had to sell his soul in order to make it happen. Bernie is in no way the same sort of guy.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
The idea is that Rubio continues to gain momentum post debate as well as post the next debate and he always outperforms his polls.


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To be fair last night was just all of PoliGAF rubbing of on each child other.

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Bowdz

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The idea is that Rubio continues to gain momentum post debate as well as post the next debate and he always outperforms his polls.


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I agree with both of those notions, but it's hard to continue momentum when it gets reset after a constant barrage of crushing losses. Rubio crushes it at a debate, gets positive press/momentum, and then loses big on election day and has to answer questions about Trump's inevitability. Unless he starts winning States, it is a losing strategy because debates < elections.

Also, I want to see Rubio's campaign financing for this quarter. Sure, his PACs will be fully funded, but he was up there with Jeb in terms of the smallest number of grassroots donations. I think there is a very real possibility that, at least in terms of ground game, Rubio won't be able to compete much outside of FL for the next month.
 
Are you ready for Tuesday Adam?

The great circlejerk of our time approaches.

I'm so ready. I want to see the Queen take her rightful place. I want to win and win big. Yuge. We love the South. We love the South. We love Massachusetts! We may or may not love Minnesota, Colorado and Oklahoma. We'll have to wait and see. YUGE. Gonna be YUGE for the queen.
 

CCS

Banned
I'm so ready. I want to see the Queen take her rightful place. I want to win and win big. Yuge. We love the South. We love the South. We love Massachusetts! We may or may not love Minnesota, Colorado and Oklahoma. We'll have to wait and see. YUGE. Gonna be YUGE for the queen.

Come Tuesday, we will all be YUUUUGE.
 
Super Tuesday delegate allocation rules by state ("winner-take-most" in CDs=2 for 1st, 1 for 2nd unless 1 candidate breaks a specified threshold, in which case they get all 3):

Proportional
Alaska: all 28 allocated statewide proportionally (13% threshold)
Massachusetts: all 42 allocated statewide proportionally (5% threshold)
Minnesota: if someone gets 85% of the vote statewide (LMAO) they win all 38 delegates, otherwise 24 district delegates allocated proportionally with a 10% threshold (how are you going to proportionally allocate 3 delegates?), 14 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 10% threshold
Virginia: all 49 delegates awarded proportionally to the statewide vote (no threshold)
Vermont: all 16 delegates awarded proportionally with 20% threshold and 50% winner take all

Winner Take Most
Alabama: 21 district delegates allocated winner take most with a 20% threshold/50% winner take all, 29 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 20% threshold and 50% winner take all
Arkansas: 12 district delegates allocated winner take most with 50% winner take all, 28 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 15% threshold and 50% winner take all
Georgia: 42 district delegates allocated winner take most with 50% winner take all, 34 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 20% threshold and 50% winner take all
Oklahoma: 15 district delegates allocated winner take most with a 15% threshold and 50% winner take all, 28 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 15% threshold and 50% winner take all
Tennessee: 27 district delegates allocated winner take most with a 20% threshold and 2/3 winner take all, 31 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 20% threshold and 2/3 winner take all
Texas: 108 district delegates allocated winner take most with 20% threshold and 50% winner take all, 47 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 20% threshold and 50% winner take all

most notably Rubio might just fail to get a single district delegate out of Texas, so even if he comes out with like, 14 of the statewide delegates that's still less than 10% of the state's total
 
Bernie. I love Bernie! Nice guy. But he blew it! He doesn't know how to win like I do!

Bernie. Nice guy. I agree. Love him. Yuge Socialist, though. But he doesn't win. He just dosen't know how to win. Spent millions. Millions. Got almost no votes. None at all. To a woman. Yuge disappointment. Millions. Can't win. Not a winner. Low energy. Won't build a wall. How can he make America great again when he can't even beat a war criminal in a primary. What a big mess.

: air horn :
 

CCS

Banned
Bernie. Nice guy. I agree. Love him. Yuge Socialist, though. But he doesn't win. He just dosen't know how to win. Spent millions. Millions. Got almost no votes. None at all. To a woman. Yuge disappointment. Millions. Can't win. Not a winner. Low energy. Won't build a wall. How can he make America great again when he can't even beat a war criminal in a primary. What a big mess.

: air horn :

Still not convinced you're not actually Donald Trump.
 

watershed

Banned
Nate Silver is still pushing the idea that Rubio can sweep everything after Super Tuesday, but where in the world would that momentum come from?

CNN looked at this scenario and declared it to be nearly impossible. Rubio isn't going to run the table at any point.
 

Bowdz

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CNN looked at this scenario and declared it to be nearly impossible. Rubio isn't going to run the table at any point.

John King did a model last night in which Trump wins most of the ST states with Rubio getting the second most delegates and Cruz winning Texas. In that scenario, Rubio has to win FL or OH and then win EVERY OTHER STATE to outright win the nomination. If he loses FL, he will have to take it to the convention if he wants to win. If Rubio loses OH and FL, he is screwed.
 

Kyosaiga

Banned
I'm still baffled by Cornell West from Sanders camp. Obama is practically a deity among black people in America next to MLK and Jesus, and your plan to get them to listen to you is to send the guy that loathes him? How did they not see the implications and optics?
 

NeoXChaos

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I'm still baffled by Cornell West from Sanders camp. Obama is practically a deity among black people in America next to MLK and Jesus, and your plan to get them to listen to you is to send the guy that loathes him? How did they not see the implications and optics?

how did Nina Turner take the news?
 

RoKKeR

Member
He's not perfect but I really do like Kasich. He has the right take on this whole cycle... it's an absolute farce, and he is the only one in the GOP field pointing it out and trying to promote rationality.

It makes Rubio turning into Trump-lite even more embarrassing to me.
 
I'm still baffled by Cornell West from Sanders camp. Obama is practically a deity among black people in America next to MLK and Jesus, and your plan to get them to listen to you is to send the guy that loathes him? How did they not see the implications and optics?

To be fair, Bernie had no one else, really. He needed surrogates. If he actually had surrogates with a strong voice, we wouldn't have seen Killer Mike given such a prominent role in the campaign. He has an amazing ally in Nina Turner, but she cannot be everywhere at once. I just don't think Bernie had the luxury of turning down anyone who might turn out a voter or two. I think it was a bad miscalculation, but, what do I know.
 
He's not perfect but I really do like Kasich. He has the right take on this whole cycle... it's an absolute farce, and he is the only one in the GOP field pointing it out and trying to promote rationality.

It makes Rubio turning into Trump-lite even more embarrassing to me.
Light the Manky Signal!
 

Kangi

Member
Woke up.

Not a dream? She really won by nearly 50 points yesterday?

Cool.

Berniestan friend assures me that it's just because we're a red state.
 
Super Tuesday delegate allocation rules by state ("winner-take-most" in CDs=2 for 1st, 1 for 2nd unless 1 candidate breaks a specified threshold, in which case they get all 3):

Proportional
Alaska: all 28 allocated statewide proportionally (13% threshold)
Massachusetts: all 42 allocated statewide proportionally (5% threshold)
Minnesota: if someone gets 85% of the vote statewide (LMAO) they win all 38 delegates, otherwise 24 district delegates allocated proportionally with a 10% threshold (how are you going to proportionally allocate 3 delegates?), 14 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 10% threshold
Virginia: all 49 delegates awarded proportionally to the statewide vote (no threshold)
Vermont: all 16 delegates awarded proportionally with 20% threshold and 50% winner take all

Winner Take Most
Alabama: 21 district delegates allocated winner take most with a 20% threshold/50% winner take all, 29 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 20% threshold and 50% winner take all
Arkansas: 12 district delegates allocated winner take most with 50% winner take all, 28 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 15% threshold and 50% winner take all
Georgia: 42 district delegates allocated winner take most with 50% winner take all, 34 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 20% threshold and 50% winner take all
Oklahoma: 15 district delegates allocated winner take most with a 15% threshold and 50% winner take all, 28 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 15% threshold and 50% winner take all
Tennessee: 27 district delegates allocated winner take most with a 20% threshold and 2/3 winner take all, 31 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 20% threshold and 2/3 winner take all
Texas: 108 district delegates allocated winner take most with 20% threshold and 50% winner take all, 47 statewide delegates allocated proportionally with a 20% threshold and 50% winner take all

most notably Rubio might just fail to get a single district delegate out of Texas, so even if he comes out with like, 14 of the statewide delegates that's still less than 10% of the state's total
Cruz has a better chance of jumping to 2nd place with a good Texas performance in delegate count.


This Rubio guy LOL, Media peddled. I don't think he will win anything
 

Bowdz

Member
Cruz has a better chance of jumping to 2nd place with a good Texas performance in delegate count.


This Rubio guy LOL, Media peddled. I don't think he will win anything

While I'd love to see a complete Trump sweep Tuesday, I think the best scenario is Sam Wang's prediction: Trump with a massive lead, Cruz wins Texas and comes into a solid second place, and Rubio stalls in third. I'd love to hear the rationalizing from the establishment in that scenario.
 
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