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PoliGAF 2016 |OT2| we love the poorly educated

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PBY

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2016 Texas Republican Presidential Primary - (ARG 2/26-2/28)
Population 400 Likely Voters - Republican
Margin of Error ±5.0 percentage points
Polling Method Live Phone
Source ARG



1) 2016 Texas Republican Presidential Primary
Asked of 400 likely voters - republican
Ben Carson (R) 6%
Ted Cruz (R) 33%
John Kasich (R) 7%
Marco Rubio (R) 17%
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Donald Trump (R) 32%
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Other 0%
Undecided 5%
 
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Crocodile

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Macho Madness said:
Rubio's fail to rise really shows how terrible of a politician he is and just how bad the base views the establishment. Coming off 2013's "how the fuck do we win a presidential election" RNC committee, he's the exact candidate you might pick. But the establishment of the Republican Party is sick of it and want a winner, and they do not want illegal immigrants to be given any sort of legality.
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Sure Rubio is a minority but not a single position he holds is likely to help the base of the voters. More tax cuts for the rich, more military spending and neocon philosophy, fuck gays & women, no healthcare plan, etc. How does any of that help middle-class, white person Joe or Joanna?
 
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PBY

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2016 Georgia Republican Presidential Primary - Trump 41%, Rubio 18% (ResearchNow/WABE 2/22-2/24)

Population 400 Likely Voters - Republican
Margin of Error ±4.1 percentage points
Polling Method Internet
Source ResearchNow/WABE

2016 Georgia Republican Presidential Primary
Asked of 400 likely voters - republican
Ben Carson (R) 8%
Ted Cruz (R) 15%
John Kasich (R) 7%
Marco Rubio (R) 18%
Donald Trump (R) 41%
Undecided 10%
 
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PBY

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Is this going to be a thing?

The New York Times is sitting on an audio recording that some of its staff believes could deal a serious blow to Donald Trump who, in an off-the-record meeting with the newspaper, called into question whether he would stand by his own immigration views.

Trump visited the paper’s Manhattan headquarters on Tuesday, Jan. 5, part of a round of editorial board meetings that — as is traditional — the Democratic candidates for president and some of the Republicans attended. The meetings, conducted partly on the record and partly off the record in a 13th floor conference room, give candidates a chance to make their pitch for the paper’s endorsement.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/trump-tape?utm_term=.xibpVBV5bM#.vr5vxrxeJZ
 
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Spoiled Milk

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PBY said:
Is this going to be a thing?

The New York Times is sitting on an audio recording that some of its staff believes could deal a serious blow to Donald Trump who, in an off-the-record meeting with the newspaper, called into question whether he would stand by his own immigration views.

Trump visited the paper’s Manhattan headquarters on Tuesday, Jan. 5, part of a round of editorial board meetings that — as is traditional — the Democratic candidates for president and some of the Republicans attended. The meetings, conducted partly on the record and partly off the record in a 13th floor conference room, give candidates a chance to make their pitch for the paper’s endorsement.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/trump-tape?utm_term=.xibpVBV5bM#.vr5vxrxeJZ
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They should just leak it and throw the election.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
PBY said:
Is this going to be a thing?

The New York Times is sitting on an audio recording that some of its staff believes could deal a serious blow to Donald Trump who, in an off-the-record meeting with the newspaper, called into question whether he would stand by his own immigration views.

Trump visited the paper’s Manhattan headquarters on Tuesday, Jan. 5, part of a round of editorial board meetings that — as is traditional — the Democratic candidates for president and some of the Republicans attended. The meetings, conducted partly on the record and partly off the record in a 13th floor conference room, give candidates a chance to make their pitch for the paper’s endorsement.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/trump-tape?utm_term=.xibpVBV5bM#.vr5vxrxeJZ
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As I posted like 15 posts above this:


I wasn’t able to obtain the recording, or the transcript, and don’t know exactly what Trump said. Neither Baquet, Collins, nor various editorial board members I reached would comment on an off-the-record conversation, which the Times essentially said they cannot release without approval from Trump, given the nature of the the off-the-record agreement.
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That's directly from that article.

Nothing to see here. He won't release it.
 
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HylianTom

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FreeRepublic is shrugging the KKK thing off (shocking, I know) and filing it under "last minute media/establishment desperation; he rejected Duke on Friday, dammit!!!"
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
PBY said:
Yeah, but now you got NRO dudes tweeting to release the tape.
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All Trump has to say is "That doesn't exist." If they release it, he sues the pants off them.
 
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Incognito

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he's not rescinding, get outta here with that. probably just saying he talked to donald, found it offensive, but trump is still the man to make america great again.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Incognito said:
he's not rescinding, get outta here with that. probably just saying he talked to donald, found it offensive, but trump is still the man to make america great again.
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Isn't it most likely related to the Supreme Court ruling in New Jersey?
 
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Fenderputty

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Box of Kittens said:
We're really seeing the disconnect between what the Republican base actually wants and what the party elites think they want.
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It's not that they don't know the base wants this. It's that they know the base cares less about the minimum wage being lifted than other issues like abortion, terrorism, gay marriage and the vague concept of less government control.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Why did that black guy chokeslam that white guy? It looked like the guy who got chokeslammed didn't do anything.

Edit: Ah, it was a secret service guy.
 
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Cat

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OmniOne said:
I'm just going to leave this here without comment.
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Oh, I've been reading about that on Twitter. That's a Time photographer being choke-slammed by security after telling the security person, "Fuck you." It's all over Twitter; Buzzfeed especially had a collection of tweets on it posted too.
 
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Atomic Playboy

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Fenderputty said:
It's not that they don't know the base wants this. It's that they know the base cares less about the minimum wage being lifted than other issues like abortion, terrorism, gay marriage and the vague concept of less government control.
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It's also easy to get away with attacking the minimum wage. Most people earn more than minimum wage anyway, so they either think "doesn't apply to me" or they want to keep it low to inflate their own sense of worth in the marketplace. GOP candidates double down on this by suggesting that poor people are just a few lucky breaks away from being rich themselves, and minimum wage is something only poor people should care about. And the people who are most hit by minimum wage legislation are the people in the position that is least able to do anything about it. Someone making minimum wage can't just up and move when wages stagnate; do you know how hard it is to come up with first and last month's rent plus a security deposit when you're living paycheck to paycheck? There's no recourse there. Meanwhile a big company can threaten to leave if minimum wage goes up and local governments will trip over themselves trying to offer financial incentives to stay. It's all part of our proud Western tradition: Fuck The Poor.
 
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Box of Kittens

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Fenderputty said:
It's not that they don't know the base wants this. It's that they know the base cares less about the minimum wage being lifted than other issues like abortion, terrorism, gay marriage and the vague concept of less government control.
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I agree to an extent. I don't think the establishment is unaware of support among the base for things like minimum wage per se, but rather that they have overestimated the base's desire for a lot of the things the establishment holds dear and also that they have hoped they could somewhat neglect the base and their desires because they had no real alternatives to vote for. Now Trump is coming in and telling the base what they want to hear and the establishment has no clue how to deal with it.
 
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