Roland_Gunner
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Basically, but also the GOP really screwed themselves over by waiting this late to start hitting Trump. If they began hitting his corruption and sleaze right after NH you wouldn't see this chaotic scrambling now.
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Basically, but also the GOP really screwed themselves over by waiting this late to start hitting Trump. If they began hitting his corruption and sleaze right after NH you wouldn't see this chaotic scrambling now.
I think it's a reflection of how their media functions and how their base absorbs information.
Veritigo_X
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What about that secret Rubio tape? Why's nobody talking about that?
Thunder Monkey
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Fig eating apes are the new latte sipping liberals.
Tesseract
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he's a nasty mess
JetBlackPanda
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you aren't kidding the news today is like a bizzare parody.
every single story:
NEO NAZI ROBO CALLS FOR TRUMP
KKK TRUMP
SECRET TAPE TRUMP
The drudge would run an entire full page article on Hillary coughing, why wouldnt they run a confidential poll from a known rag paper.
next you will have a secret affair story.
User 463088
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Because Republicans never admit going to Xtube?
And, Neo, those numbers I posted were listed on Pollster. I was on my tablet and didn't copy and paste. Sorry.
Now no one believes that one, love.
RustyNails
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This is more delusional than Team Romney chasing Pennsylvania and Minnesota in 2012 :lol
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I always adore watching the GOP go after Pennsylvania and Michigan. It's so cute. It's like Charlie Brown and Lucy with the football. They always think they've got a damn good chance, but they always fall short.
If it keeps them from spending money in Florida, Iowa or Nevada, though, have at it.
Avon Barksdale
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This is just shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic at this point.
It's silly. Show me a poll where Trump is within 30 its in Manhattan, the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens, then maybe I'll start diablosing.
JetBlackPanda
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CNN: Ex CIA chief says military will not listen to Donald Trump.
bwahahahah
I have waited my entire adult life for the Republican Party to implode on itself.
bwahahahah
I have waited my entire adult life for the Republican Party to implode on itself.
Macho Madness
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And 6,000 republicans defected within the same time frame. It's a non-story.
If that tape is real then I will respect her much more than I already do.
BoboBrazil
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Trump says he has alot of people wanting to endorse him, but they want to sit down and have lunch with him and talk, but he doesn't have time for that.
cough Rick Scott cough
eBay Huckster
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it's gonna be even funnier if this turns out to have been that siena poll that got posted a page or two back
Dude should probably make the fucking time but what do I know *shrug*
adamsappel
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This campaign is soaring. If anything, it's like rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
darkside31337
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To have lunch with one of the few governors more unpopular in their home states than Christie is in NJ?
Honestly not even sure Trump wants that endorsement. Seems like it'd do more harm than good especially when the polls already have him ahead right now anyway in FL.
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VendettaRed07
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Any decent polling on American Samoa?
Yeah, I've posted a bunch, and i think I've seen all of the one's released posted here. That TX poll should be interesting, curious to see the timing on that.
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Black Mamba
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The GOP has what I see as 4 options here, assuming Trump has the plurality or majority of delegates.
1. They get behind Trump, try to win and mostly get crushed. This will result in both a "see, we told you so," and "we need a real conservative" bullshit again. Hopefully, 2020 ends with a "real conservative" ala Cruz getting crushed and then they finally reform the party more moderate.
2. They allow him to run but don't really give him much support, try to salvage what they can by pushing for other races. They get crushed but perhaps salvage the House and maybe the Senate. Mostly the same outcome as #1 but perhaps a bit riskier short-term if lose the House/Senate as a result
3. Brokered convention and steal it from him. This is the riskiest path and guarantees, imo, both a loss in the Senate and WH and probably even the House. Trump's avid supporters would stay home or vote Dem out of spite. I don't even think this is a real option for them. Would destroy the party short term and long term.
4. Run 3rd party against him. This is the most interesting choice. They'd definitely lose in 2016 but might salvage the House. It would also be a longer term strategy to reach out towards non-Trump voters. But it could just as well piss them off like in #3.
Basically, I see 2 main scenarios. Either the GOP battles itself in 2016 or does so right after 2020. They have to pick when to rip that band-aid off.
BTW, I really don't understand Kasich's philosophy. He's no competitive tomorrow and is waiting for Ohio to be the not-Trump. But he's going to be so behind in delegate math by the time Ohio votes that even if he wins it, where does he even stand to win? What's his path?
Unless he's hoping Trump collapses to like 15%, I don't get it.
None of these guys are doing anything right.
I do expect Carson to drop out after tomorrow night, though.
1. They get behind Trump, try to win and mostly get crushed. This will result in both a "see, we told you so," and "we need a real conservative" bullshit again. Hopefully, 2020 ends with a "real conservative" ala Cruz getting crushed and then they finally reform the party more moderate.
2. They allow him to run but don't really give him much support, try to salvage what they can by pushing for other races. They get crushed but perhaps salvage the House and maybe the Senate. Mostly the same outcome as #1 but perhaps a bit riskier short-term if lose the House/Senate as a result
3. Brokered convention and steal it from him. This is the riskiest path and guarantees, imo, both a loss in the Senate and WH and probably even the House. Trump's avid supporters would stay home or vote Dem out of spite. I don't even think this is a real option for them. Would destroy the party short term and long term.
4. Run 3rd party against him. This is the most interesting choice. They'd definitely lose in 2016 but might salvage the House. It would also be a longer term strategy to reach out towards non-Trump voters. But it could just as well piss them off like in #3.
Basically, I see 2 main scenarios. Either the GOP battles itself in 2016 or does so right after 2020. They have to pick when to rip that band-aid off.
BTW, I really don't understand Kasich's philosophy. He's no competitive tomorrow and is waiting for Ohio to be the not-Trump. But he's going to be so behind in delegate math by the time Ohio votes that even if he wins it, where does he even stand to win? What's his path?
Unless he's hoping Trump collapses to like 15%, I don't get it.
None of these guys are doing anything right.
I do expect Carson to drop out after tomorrow night, though.
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I give Bernie's people credit. He's hitting up Reddit hard for donations today. It has the double impact of being the last day of the month/filing deadline AND it comes before what is probably going to be a really, really shitty few weeks.
Get that coin now, girl. Get it. Build up some money. I wonder what his Cash on Hand is atm.
Get that coin now, girl. Get it. Build up some money. I wonder what his Cash on Hand is atm.
Basileus777
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If Kasich wins Ohio and Rubio loses Florida, he might actually not be very far behind Rubio in delegates. None of the non-Trump candidates have a realistic path to a majority of delegates at this point unless the polling is all wrong.
VendettaRed07
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lol, but seriously I'm interested in knowing who they vote for. They don't get to vote in generals so its nice that the DNC recognizes them and lets them have a say on super tuesday
Michigan is sort of a weird place that doesn't fit the normal red state/blue state paradigm. There's copious amounts of rural and christian voters that have given the state Republican leadership in the past. The large amounts of urban minority and union voters have kept it blue, but I get nervous that the union block would go for the right message. There's a lot of animosity between the suburbs and Detroit that revolve around the aftermath of the riots. Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them end up voting Trump.
Black Mamba
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If Trump does tomorrow what we think he does and wins Florida, the election is over. Kasich can win Ohio by 70 points, won't matter.
BTW, Rubio is likely to get an insignificant amount of delegates in Texas if he hits the threshold (like 5), but him missing the threshold would be []very bad[/i] optics as the media can say "he didn't even qualify in Texas." Math wise, there's not much of a different but it would look so bad.
Or just reduce the size of that train wreck of a logo up top. So many options!
StopMakingSense
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Nominating a NJ Supreme Court judge.
Nominated a judge.
JetBlackPanda
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Get this.. he gave a press conference on a NJ supreme court nominee.
BoboBrazil
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You have to be blind to the reality of the situation if you give him money at this point. It's basically throwing money away, but people are free to do with theirs how they please I guess.
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