FloydtheFathead
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Only if he loses Texas.. That's the only way I see him dropping since he has the money.
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User 463088
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Which side of the wall?
Anyone see that the Union Leader rescinded their endorsement of Christie even though NH was like six years ago? LOLZ.
BoboBrazil
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I don't see how Kasich stays in when he's been averaging 4-5% of the vote, except for NH where he came 2nd. What kind of role is he going to play in a brokered convention? He's getting beat in his own state by Trump. I guess pride might keep him in, but things aren't going to get better for him unless he pulls out some more 2nd place wins tonight.
He has known for awhile now that he was going to get blown out tonight. This wasn't his demographic base.
What matters is how Rubio performs in FL and him in Ohio.
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His whole thing is win Ohio since it's WTA. If he does that, he may have comparable numbers to Rubio who won't have won anything, let alone his home state. The idea is make it a 3 person race in which Cruz and Kasich have won their home states against Rubio who has managed to make 2nd place into the new 1st.
It's not a great strategy, but it's better than nothing.
VendettaRed07
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The establishment needs to force Rubio and Kasich out if they win nothing an Cruz wins Texas
They really need to wake up and realize getting behind trump can cost them their own jobs. Deserved or not, Cruz does not have the same "racist" tag on his forehead that Trump does. It isn't as damaging politically to endorse Cruz like it is With Trump. They need to get behind him for their own sake if he wins Texas. It doesn't matter how much they hate him or hate working with him. He will be significantly less damaging with their parties image and they need to roll with him
Edit: Trump not Kasich
They really need to wake up and realize getting behind trump can cost them their own jobs. Deserved or not, Cruz does not have the same "racist" tag on his forehead that Trump does. It isn't as damaging politically to endorse Cruz like it is With Trump. They need to get behind him for their own sake if he wins Texas. It doesn't matter how much they hate him or hate working with him. He will be significantly less damaging with their parties image and they need to roll with him
Edit: Trump not Kasich
They hate Cruz too much.
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There was a Republican strategist on MSNBC who was basically arguing this. At this point, Rubio is just not going to happen. A brokered convention is not going to allow them to pick a viable candidate. They'll pick a candidate, but he won't be viable. Instead, focus on the slightly lesser of two evils and go with Cruz.
Interestingly, Cruz has mostly kept himself protected from the batshit Rubio/Trump stuff. He's basically lied out of his ass saying Trump is a member of the mafia and that's why his taxes are being audited, but he's, at least, not dropped down to penis level insults.
At a certain point the establishment is going to have to settle for "good enough." They can't pretend a guy who has a chance of being 0 and 15 is entitled to the nomination.
BoboBrazil
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Ah this makes sense. Only going to get tougher for him if things go like I hope tonight though and Trump keeps racking up wins.
Cesare Borgia
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I don't think so, assuming he wins Texas and comes in second in a few southern states. Can't look it up now but I'd imagine he has more cash on hand than Rubio. The problem for Cruz is that he can't knock Rubio off because generally accepted campaign principles don't apply to Rubio. Rubio hasn't come close to winning one state and is going to be blown out in his home state, yet could stay in this race solely because the establishment needs him. If Cruz had any friends or was viable the establishment might have decided to make him their man....but he's so hated that it's a non starter.
So basically it's a stalemate. Cruz has no personal or campaign reason to drop out, and Rubio is currently immortal. And the stalemate just makes a Trump win more likely. Amazing...
VendettaRed07
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I know but Cruz is atleast smart enough to denounce the KKK when asked about it. They are letting in the opportunity to attach themselves to the Klan by getting behind Trump
Exactly, I wouldn't be surprised if most don't secretly (or even openly) prefer Trump.
Regarding drop-outs:
Kasich dropping out now makes no sense. Of course, it doesn't really make sense that he's still in either. But he might as well ride it out until Ohio at this point.
Cruz may drop out if he loses Texas. So let's hope he doesn't.
Rubio should drop out after Florida. Whether or not he will is anyone's guess.
Bernie obviously won't drop out tonight. But I doubt he'll go all the way to the convention either. If he does poorly tonight and the tide doesn't change before March 15, I can see him actually suspending his campaign before the end of this month.
Carson is almost certainly dropping out tonight though. Right?
The party likely sees Trump as a one time thing. Let him offer himself up and hopefully get destroyed, and then hope all his followers are tamed back to following the parties will.
With Cruz there's no putting the rabbit back in the hat. He isn't going anywhere if he becomes the nominee.
With Cruz there's no putting the rabbit back in the hat. He isn't going anywhere if he becomes the nominee.
BoboBrazil
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If he keeps getting a spot on the debate stage he might stay in.
There's a good chance Cruz will have more delegates than Rubio after tonight because of TX. I actually think the media will give him one more moment in the sun as the anti-Trump.
BoboBrazil
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Trump was really quiet on twitter this morning. I wonder if he is planning something?
Lemme call disastermouse.
He's apparently almost out of cash even though he's raised more than like anyone else on the Republican side.
I would assume that's where the quote ends (which is his MO, just make shit up)? Because he has nothing to back that up.
Bernie must have put a ton of money on CNN/MSNBC today. Literally a commercial during every break.
Some light diablosing to start my Super Tuesday morning.
Gotta pay for direct mail campaigns to fleece poor and dumb religious people.
BoboBrazil
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Rubio voted for gun ban http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...merges-proving-marco-rubio-voted-for-gun-ban/
Good attack fuel for Trump and Cruz
Good attack fuel for Trump and Cruz
Cesare Borgia
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I think Carson drops out tonight. He's holding his campaign event in Maryland, where he lives. He has to be finished.
Kasich just needs to make it to Ohio. I think he can. After that who knows how long he'll last. If he can outlast Rubio perhaps...but it's unlikely.
This bottleneck is going to give Trump the nomination unless something drastic happens.
Kasich just needs to make it to Ohio. I think he can. After that who knows how long he'll last. If he can outlast Rubio perhaps...but it's unlikely.
This bottleneck is going to give Trump the nomination unless something drastic happens.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Hardcore conservative talk show hosts and writers are coming out as pretty supportive of the Klan.
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Hmm, not that surprising I guess?
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Hmm, not that surprising I guess?
Bel Marduk
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The goal of his campaign seems to be to sell books and increase Carson's profile
He did abysmally in Iowa New Hampshire SC and Nevada
Why would he drop out today?
Macho Madness
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He's reportedly out of money.
I mean sure, he should have dropped out a while ago. But I'm guessing enough is enough, even for him.
Hardcore conservative talk show hosts and writers are coming out as pretty supportive of the Klan.
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Hmm, not that surprising I guess?
That's why I don't think the KKK thing matters in the primary. How long have people been calling the GOP racist now?
Veritigo_X
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Reddit. /r/politics for a complete shitshow and /r/SandersForPresident for basic schadenfreude.
Hardcore conservative talk show hosts and writers are coming out as pretty supportive of the Klan.
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Hmm, not that surprising I guess?
Ziltoidia 9
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Obamas against racism...Looks like we gotta be for it!!!!!!
FloydtheFathead
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I hope we see commercials of the bullshit statements Walker, Cruz, Rubio and all the assholes have said tying them to Trump like the asshole he is.
cartoon_soldier
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Trump's main block of potential voters hate Muslims, hate the 14th amendment, love military force, but.... hate gay people and don't care at all about trade deals?
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism
Didn't expect total indifference to trade deals to come up from American nationalists.
This article is really important because it goes into a bunch of stuff we've talked about here!
* Why Trump is literally Hitler
* How it really is all about having a black President
* How white people are the worst, according to (social) science
* How Trump reflects the fracturing of the GOP and how it has to jettison the authoritarians or continue to fail forever
* How Trump totally can't win because most people don't like Hitler
Everybody go read this.
If Grayson is nominated I swear to fucking god
good thing the senate primary isnt till August.
In one way I like that Grayson is winning because it reprents that Florida Democrats have a hungering for a real progressive instead of the moderates constantly offered up.
On the other hand it's terrible because Grayson is a huge piece of shit with enough skeletons in his closet to completely bury him.
What the fuck? Why does Florida have two primaries?
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