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I misread, I thought the percentages in each column were supposed to add up to 100
Exactly this.
Macho Madness
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Link to Christie speech stream: http://www.app.com/story/news/politics/2016/03/03/chris-christie-press-conference/81269414/
Looks like MSNBC will be carrying it too.
Looks like MSNBC will be carrying it too.
2012 felt like that until Romney got the nom. Even then, shit got pretty weird. But this right here is like some surreal version of Game of Thrones.
But... is this even related to Donald/Mittens?
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Which is ironic considering both Obama and Clinton are center right, of course she has come to that left to appeal to Bernie voters during the nomination process.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Love Trump's spokeswoman said. "You have republicans patting themselves on the back for cutting food stamps, while they give millions and millions of dollars to each other, that is not Republican."
I mean I get that. His timing has been awful with these pressers if that's the case tho
plagiarize
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The percentages on the left are the percentages of people who were asked the following question. Do you want the next President to: continue Obama's policies / use more liberal policies / use less liberal policies.
OF the people who answered each of those choices you are seeing a breakdown of whether they voted Clinton or Sanders. So, of the 28% of people who want less liberal policies than Obama's, 24% supported Clinton and 59% supported Sanders.
Clear?
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"When Chris Christie starts talking about anything anyone cares about, we'll go back to him."
A Human Becoming
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Did I miss Christie speak?
He's speaking now about the NJ economy lol
plagiarize
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Baseless drivel. They are right of Sanders. They aren't right of center. Perhaps on one or two issues, but overall both are quite liberal and their voting records show it.
Yep - in 2008 Hillary benefited from this in reverse, and won stinking margins in certain states due to simple hostility towards Obama (e.g. West Virginia). Now the same is happening again but the other way around - there's a group of voters out there who would vote for Stalin if they were standing in opposition to Obama.
NihonTiger90
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Christie says he endorsed Trump, a friend for 14 years, because he's the best person to beat Hillary.
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Macho Madness
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the only reason is "because he can beat Hillary"
are you fucking serious
are you fucking serious
User 463088
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That entire anniversary thing from Christie was weird as fuck.
That's utter nonsense. Neither Obama or Clinton are centre right by any definition of the term, even European left wing countries. People need to start actually looking at policy positions and voting records rather than spouting this drivel and pretending Sander's is the only left wing person in the USA.
Wanda/Wander
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All you're telling me is that I read the graph correctly. My question is, why would those who want less liberal policies than Obama vote for Sanders over Clinton? Granted the two aren't that far apart on the majority of issues but I feel comfortable in saying there are more issues Clinton leans right of Sanders than issues Sanders leans right of Clinton. I'm guessing imprinting and anti-Clinton votes are the reasons as others have said.
Plinko
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And this is the exact line of thought Trump needs to be hitting again and again in his debates. THIS is what appeals to the lower-income GOP, of which there are a ton.
Stumpokapow
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The cross-tabbing on this is totally wrong. Why are the percentages aggregated across row rather than by column or by cell? Is this an exit poll? What's the n for each column?
RastaMentality
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Why is the Sanders team still going full attack on Hillary? If he's really supposed to be a message candidate, this is just kinda terrible.
Basileus777
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I haven't read in detail the Trumpcare plan but its so weird and odd to me that he has the best idea for the Palestinian and Israeli conflict.
To think someone would suggest you have to be neutral but then that person turns out to be Trump.
I will forever love Trump if he pushes Hillary to the left on Israel in the general. America needs to be a neutral arbiter and Barry-O is about as close as we've gotten since Eisenhower. The spectrum needs to be reset to the center.
Actually, MA exits show the exact same split as the OK poll. Sanders hits 68% for those who want more liberal policies, and 60% for those who want more conservative policies. Clinton at 70% for those who want continuation.
they said they wanted a political revolution - but they didn't say in which directionOklahoma
on that note, one of my collegiate acquaintances says that if bernie loses the nomination, her second choice is rubio because hillary is "too right wing and corporate"
HOW?????
edit: through the power of tangents during group conversation, this person now sees the Truth regarding little rubio and understands that voting for obama's third term isn't that bad - hooray for discussion!!
LyleLanley
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I want to hear more about what kind of fun Christie has on the internet.
Which means part of Sanders's voter base is just anti-Hillary/Obama.
Corporate, I can at least entertain.
Right? Is it right by first world standards? Because by American standards, they're at worst central.
Because they're assholes.
Basileus777
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That was always going to be the case. The GOP isn't bottling up this civil war so quickly.
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No, it's because this what politics turns into.
For whatever reason, Hillary Clinton is seen as a corporate candidate and a war hawk. It's probably Bernie's fault.
cartoon_soldier
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Did I miss anything?
Macho Madness
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I don't know but I've kind of stopped paying attention to it. If your defense to losing every state in the south is "they'll be red in November", you've already lost.
Fenderputty
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She's and idiot
Look at 2008 and 2012 primary election data, and superimpose 2008 and 2012 general election data. If you want a bigger picture, look at recent Senate election data in the state too. It'll start to come together.
Basileus777
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Until you look at the MA exit polls and see it's not just those regions.
FloydtheFathead
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Let's be honest.. We live in a post-Donald Trump world and you live in Ohio.
She'd win in a landslide if she were to go out like that.
Can I have whatever he has? Cause that must be some gooood shit.
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