Basileus777
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What you are pulling this from?
He's not...
Yeah they hated Romney got so damaged having to run alongside a bunch of idiots like Gingrich, Santorum, Perry etc. The Winner Take All rules were supposed to stop a long primary like 2012 from happening.
Honestly if they make any chance post 2016, I'm guessing it'll be to a superdelegate system like the Democrats have.
Did anyone post the video of Cruz at CPAC getting booed and having people walk out?
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4583801/people-walk-cruz
At this rate this year's golden globes, emmys etc. should all go to the GOP instead of house of cards.
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4583801/people-walk-cruz
At this rate this year's golden globes, emmys etc. should all go to the GOP instead of house of cards.
Elaugaufein
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Cruz is getting booed at CPAC ? Man the world just doesn't make sense any more.
What the fuck? If this is what CPAC has turned into, the GOP is indeed fucked. Nothing about that party makes sense anymore.
FloydtheFathead
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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So, will Republicans stop talking about repealing Obamacare in 2020 when 65% of the nation approves of it?
BoboBrazil
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Lol Trump had Better Business Bureau fax his rating of Trump U to the debate and he gave it to Megyn Kelly during a break https://www.facebook.com/DisdainForPlebs/videos/1008569475890166/
benjipwns
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One other thing to add, mostly about conventions and delegate voting, is that candidates can "release" their delegates to make them unbound prior to the first ballot. This is basically what candidates who drop out and endorse another candidate do. Those delegates technically don't have to vote for the endorsee (say if Christie had any delegates, they wouldn't have to vote for Trump just because Christie endorsed him, they would be unbound and free to vote for Cruz or whoever) but it's generally understood that they will. (And probably more because the conventions are near unanimous votes.)
In the old days when conventions mattered, often when a candidate peaked, but short of the necessary amount to win, he would release his delegates to hopefully screw over the other guy or two he was battling with. Hence, why so many conventions went to "dark horses" or compromise candidates.
Some candidates still don't release their delegates, simply to have their votes counted symbolically. Ron Paul in 2012 (along with a few unbounds who voted for Santorum, Bachmann, etc.), Kucinich in 2004.
Democrats were afraid Hillary wouldn't release hers before the 2008 Convention. Delegates were still voting for Hillary, so she called to suspend the roll call. Roughly a thousand out of the 4400 (gasp) did. And another 200 didn't vote.
Other than 1976 the only times delegates voted against the eventual nominee in significant numbers was every Democratic convention from 1980-1992. About a thousand Democratic delegates voted for Jerry Brown and Paul Tsongas over Bill Clinton. In 1988, Jesse Jackson had about 1200 (roughly 30%) who voted for him. In 1984, Hart and Jackson got about 1700 votes to Mondale's 2200. In 1980, Kennedy got 1200 to Carter's 2100. And ~700+ failed to show up for the VP re-nomination ballot of Mondale because they were upset that Kennedy lost. (Worth noting, Kennedy tried to get all the bound delegates unbound prior to the Presidential ballot...this was part of the impetus for the SuperDelegate system.)
1976 was the only real contested convention of the primary era as there were enough unbound delegates to decide the winner:
Ford - 1187
Reagan - 1070
Elliot Richardson - 1
ItWasMeantToBe19
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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/0...blican-party.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&referer=
Very sensible woman right here.
BoboBrazil
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Love it. If Trump wins Ohio or Florida it's all over right? He doesn't even need to win both.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Wow, CPAC is a soft target without freedom. When will they get serious about safety and allow Cruz and Trump fans to carry AR-15s into the convention?
Pretty much. He can even win the whole thing without winning those two, but it'd be a mess of a rollercoaster.
Elaugaufein
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Not necessarily but if he does then the chances that things are going enough against him elsewhere to stop him aren't great (particularly if he gets both).
Also winning either cripples Kasich or Rubio because Cruz will be able to claim he could carry Texas and they can't do anything.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Trump collapsing from 86% to 69% on predictwise while every news story is demonstrating how ridiculously fucked Rubio is in Florida is pretty bizarre.
People are feeling really bearish right now for stupid reasons.
I think Trump was in a bit of a bubble coming into Super Tuesday, because there were some serious expectations he would sweep the whole thing, or perhaps win everything but Texas. The fact he lost 4 states that day, combined with Romney declaring a nomination blockade, deflated the bubble.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Probably because we are in uncharted waters at this point. Rubio is not gaining from it, people are just cashing out because it's impossible to predict what will happen.
MSNBC rumor-mill. If he loses in Florida, keeping his seat was a no brainer they said - for the party.
Finally caught up again, sometimes I wonder why I even bother trying to read the whole thread.
Oh yeah, that's why. XD
Pfff, this just looks like a basic Disassociated Press algorithm. I wrote one of those to mock crappy posters on USENET back in the 90's. If nobody did one for Sarah Palin, I'd be surprised.
Late Super Tuesday thought: I'm not surprised Cruz won Oklahoma. I grew up there, and there are more televangelists per capita there than any other state in the nation. Ted Cruz is exactly the kind of self-fellatingly pious pontificating slimeball that I kept running across while flipping through channels on the weekend looking for cartoons.
Oh yeah, that's why. XD
Pfff, this just looks like a basic Disassociated Press algorithm. I wrote one of those to mock crappy posters on USENET back in the 90's. If nobody did one for Sarah Palin, I'd be surprised.
Late Super Tuesday thought: I'm not surprised Cruz won Oklahoma. I grew up there, and there are more televangelists per capita there than any other state in the nation. Ted Cruz is exactly the kind of self-fellatingly pious pontificating slimeball that I kept running across while flipping through channels on the weekend looking for cartoons.
BreezyLimbo
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Good
bring it up in the next debate
let's hope Rubio is updated to handle trump.exe and cruz.exe
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Ironically, Trump voters seem to be the anti-vaxxers of the political world: completely impervious to facts and cogent arguments that should dissaude them.
What the GOP don't seem to understand is that they had an implicit pact with the Dixiecrats to delay and mitigate social change - changes in race relations, changes in sexual mores, changes in gender roles - in exchange for their support. The GOP, despite its best efforts, have failed miserably at this in the long-term, and basically everybody knows it. Even if the GOP did manage to capture the White House and stack the Supreme Court full of Scalias, this is only a few-decades delay of the inevitable. Given the obvious changes that are happening, why the fuck would the GOP base stick with them when there's another, much more entertaining guy promising to wage economic war against the wider world they see as having wronged them out of their very way of life?
What the GOP don't seem to understand is that they had an implicit pact with the Dixiecrats to delay and mitigate social change - changes in race relations, changes in sexual mores, changes in gender roles - in exchange for their support. The GOP, despite its best efforts, have failed miserably at this in the long-term, and basically everybody knows it. Even if the GOP did manage to capture the White House and stack the Supreme Court full of Scalias, this is only a few-decades delay of the inevitable. Given the obvious changes that are happening, why the fuck would the GOP base stick with them when there's another, much more entertaining guy promising to wage economic war against the wider world they see as having wronged them out of their very way of life?
TheLostBigBoss
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well, if the threat of a brokered convention is looming that could easily prevent him from getting the GOP nomination.
I would be dumping stock now too (unless you're just talking about Florida)
Hasn't he missed the filing deadline and won't the Senate primary have already happened?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Trump needs an estimated 62% of white women and 70% of white men to vote for him to win the November election.
This isn't possible, it's over.
This isn't possible, it's over.
TheLostBigBoss
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I feel bad for the people who are actually legit freaking out over this (IE dude in OT having panic attacks)
Macho Madness
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Trump anxiety is real, and doctors are reporting on it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...l?postshare=4711457134956041&tid=ss_tw-bottom
I told you this guy is unhealthy in many different ways.
I told you this guy is unhealthy in many different ways.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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I don't really buy numbers like that just yet, until we get a sense for what Trump's general election strategy looks like.
benjipwns
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For me at least it's less of worrying about him being elected but just the sadness that the current state of the country could allow him to get this far. Like watching the debates and just the general discourse devolve to this point is sad and makes the country as a whole seem very backwards.
Macho Madness
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Why?
I'm laughing so hard. This is called playing with fire after being burned.
Naw if Carson runs Rubio won't. He just took a new "job" as some kind of party evangelical evangelist so I don't see him running
TheLostBigBoss
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These feelings have always been in existence. You don't get the Tea Party without a black president. You have a whole political party that has been exploiting the racist culture of a block of people in a section of the country for over three decades, this isn't anything new per say, Trump has simply dropped the facade that the GOP has been hiding behind.
It's why the GOP is shitting themselves, the dirty not so secret secret is out for the world to see.
This is why I think Trump has done a great service for the country. He has destroyed the GOP.
Tesseract
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Sanders has gone overdrive on his attacks against Clinton in the lead up to Michigan and Clinton is firing back on the campaign trail. They'll both be at each others' throats during the night.
RastaMentality
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I don't mind the panic. People need to vote.
This seems like a stretch but we could all be looking back a decade from now and say "damn I was there at the beginning of fascism in the US and I saw/didn't see it coming."
TheLostBigBoss
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True, but I think people should be able to live without having actual panic attacks, like legit anxiety.
I mean, it's only March.
Thanks for the clarity Benji. Your posts are always awesome.
This begs the question however, why the hell is Jeb! not running for the Senate seat now?
The Technomancer
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Oh also, I don't know where to post this, but apparently today Milo "Nero" Yiannopoulos used his Breitbart press pass to get into the White House so he could accost the press secretary. The issue he was so concerned about?
That Twitter was censoring him by removing his blue "verified checkmark"
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/art..._Sec._Josh_Earnest_About_Losing_His_Checkmark
This is the single most amazing escalation of these events I can think of
That Twitter was censoring him by removing his blue "verified checkmark"
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/art..._Sec._Josh_Earnest_About_Losing_His_Checkmark
This is the single most amazing escalation of these events I can think of
Macho Madness
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You cannot, as a Republican, look at these maps and think "Yes, Trump is a great idea."
You just can't. This map says if you're lucky, you get Iowa, New Hampshire, and maybe Maine.
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