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[HylianTom]

I'm going to laugh really hard if/when Louisiana gives Trump a big win and helps his storyline coming out of today's results.

Also: LOL Rubio

 

[Tarkus]

You know what they say about guys who eat their boogers...




They post on Neogaf!

TBF, it looked like a tonsil stone

 

[NeoXChaos]

Nate Cohn ‏@Nate_Cohn 13s13 seconds ago Washington, DC
Huge 57-23 edge for Trump in Clay County, a Republican county in the heart of coal country. One of the best regions in the US for Trump

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[Plinko]

I think the most fascinating thing about this cycle so far was this is the SECOND time Rubio has been built up by the GOP and flamed out spectacularly (last time being the famous SOTU response with the water).

 

[BSsBrolly]

Was there anytime in 2012 that Romney was beating Obama in a head to head poll?

The fact that Ted Fucking Cruz is beating Hillary head to head is terrifying...

 

[Aaron Strife]

Man I hope Trump can win Maine, too. Cruz is only leading by 200 votes.

 

[Elaugaufein]

No, it's dumb to think a former secretary of state and first lady wouldn't command a high speaking fee. Of course she will get paid for it.

Lets flip this and see if you're still totally supportive:

It's dumb to think a former member of congress wouldn't command an excellent job in the private sector in an area closely related to one they made legislative decisions on. Of course their would be.

(ie the issue isn't the size or existence of speaking fees its the rather cozy relationship between politicians and business. )

 

[Basileus777]

Was there anytime in 2012 that Romney was beating Obama in a head to head poll?

The fact that Ted Fucking Cruz is beating Hillary head to head is terrifying...

Yes. He even led Obama after the first debate.

 

[Holmes]

Coal country starting to come in for Trump and coming in strong.

 

[Elaugaufein]

Yes. He even led Obama after the first debate.

Didn't Obama have an utterly awful first debate ?

 

[danm999]

Was there anytime in 2012 that Romney was beating Obama in a head to head poll?

The fact that Ted Fucking Cruz is beating Hillary head to head is terrifying...

Plenty, yes. Even right up to the election.

 

[Macho Madness]

Did I just hear someone on CNN say Bernie has a chance to win New York?

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

I think the most fascinating thing about this cycle so far was this is the SECOND time Rubio has been built up by the GOP and flamed out spectacularly (last time being the famous SOTU response with the water).

Once a choker, always a choker.

Let's win again Donald J. Trump!

 

[User 463088]

Mwhahaha,

MSNBC turns on Bernie audio while they cut to break and the first thing they pick up is "Billionaires."

 

[Coriolanus]

Didn't Obama have an utterly awful first debate ?

Quite.

A CNN flash poll of registered voters had 67% saying Romney had won it, while just 25% gave it to Obama.

 

[ivysaur12]

So Trump could win KY and LA. Not bad.

 

[BSsBrolly]

Yes. He even led Obama after the first debate.

Hmm, I swear he was never ahead but came real close after the first debate. If I'm wrong then hell yes.

 

[B-Dubs]

Did I just hear someone on CNN say Bernie has a chance to win New York?

Yea, King said that. He might be drunk right now.

 

[Macho Madness]

The best part of that debate was how pissed off Chris Matthews was afterward.

 

[User 463088]

Did I just hear someone on CNN say Bernie has a chance to win New York?

The current Bernie can win theory is that he wins NY by 20(ish) points, and wins Cali by an even larger margin, and then it's a total horse race guis really.

 

[danm999]

Hmm, I swear he was never ahead but came real close after the first debate. If I'm wrong then hell yes.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2012-general-election-romney-vs-obama

 

[Rubenov]

Kentucky YES!!!!

 

[Basileus777]

Hmm, I swear he was never ahead but came real close after the first debate. If I'm wrong then hell yes.

A quick google search shows that a bunch of national polls showed a Romney lead after the debate.

According to a CNN Poll of Polls that averages three new non-partisan, live-operator surveys released Monday and Tuesday, Romney has the support of 48% of likely voters, with Obama at 47%.

The surveys were from the Pew Research Center, which conducted its poll Thursday through Sunday (entirely after the debate); the American Research Group, which conducted its poll Friday through Monday (entirely after the debate); and the Gallup Daily Tracking Poll, which was conducted from last Tuesday through Monday (partially before and mostly after the debate).

National polls indicate dead heat in Obama-Romney battle

The Gallup daily tracking poll indicated Romney at 49% and Obama 47% among likely voters. This is Gallup's first release of a tracking poll of likely voters, so no comparison can be made to pre-debate surveys from Gallup.

The ARG poll indicates the former Massachusetts governor at 48%, with Obama at 47%. According to ARG's previous poll, conducted Sept. 27-30, the president was at 49% and Romney at 46%.

The Pew Poll indicates Romney with a 49%-45% advantage over Obama. In Pew's previous survey, conducted in mid-September, the president had a 51%-43% lead among likely voters.

Debate bounces tend to be temporary like convention bounces, but Obama was hardly ahead all of 2012.

 

[Kalnos]

Kentucky was a 'caucus' but it functioned like a closed primary as far as I know so maybe it makes sense that Trump could win?

 

[Polari]

First results from Kentucky show Cruz winning by a hair. Bad night for Trump indeed.

...and this is why you don't call on the basis of 0.7% of the vote.

 

[eBay Huckster]

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2012-general-election-romney-vs-obama

Favorite thing about that aggregate is that Romney got within .2% of leading, even with Gallup being absurdly shitty for that late in the race, and still didn't at any point in 2012

 

[royalan]

Loving the mayor of Flint on CNN right now.

"I DON'T CARE. WE JUST NEED SOME MONEY."

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

When are the Democrat numbers expected to drop?

 

[Macho Madness]

Kentucky was a 'caucus' but it functioned like a closed primary as far as I know so maybe it makes sense that Trump could win?

Have to be a registered Republican. A lot of reliable Republican voters in KY are still registered Democrats.

 

[User 463088]

This lady legit lying about the Democratic party moving the primary up in 2008 to help Hillary.

 

[BSsBrolly]

A quick google search shows that a bunch of national polls showed a Romney lead after the debate.


Debate bounces tend to be temporary like convention bounces, but Obama was hardly ahead all of 2012.

Awesome, thank you. It's hard not to "diablos" sometimes.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Also, looking at the ST thread: thank God for free JSTOR access as a grad student

 

[Teggy]

Was there anytime in 2012 that Romney was beating Obama in a head to head poll?

The fact that Ted Fucking Cruz is beating Hillary head to head is terrifying...

Here's the graph.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

Man, I don't remember that massive nosedive Romney took in September. How did he catch up? Was that end of convention to the first debate?

 

[Roland_Gunner]

Was there anytime in 2012 that Romney was beating Obama in a head to head poll?

The fact that Ted Fucking Cruz is beating Hillary head to head is terrifying...

Huffpo has Clinton up by 4+. Right now Cruz isn't being looked at based on his platform, just that he's just one of the not-Trumps. Clinton would win comfortably against him in the end.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-cruz-vs-clinton

 

[Macho Madness]

Here's the graph.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

Man, I don't remember that massive nosedive Romney took in September. How did he catch up? Was that end of convention to the first debate?

The 47% video was incredibly damaging. It was released in September.

 

[User 463088]

I agree with the MSNBC.

Trump being the frontrunner helps Hillary, especially among minority communities.

 

[Crocodile]

I agree with the MSNBC.

Trump being the frontrunner helps Hillary, especially among minority communities.

I've been making the same argument myself and I'm sure other thought the same (be it Trump or any of the GOP but Trump sounds more batshit insane so...)

Also lol at Matthews calling Trump a Transformer

 

[thepotatoman]

Here's the graph.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

Man, I don't remember that massive nosedive Romney took in September. How did he catch up? Was that end of convention to the first debate?

Ironically the March averages actually ended up matching the final result better than the October/November averages.

 

[Kyosaiga]

I agree with the MSNBC.

Trump being the frontrunner helps Hillary, especially among minority communities.

If Trump didn't have such a large impact on down ticket races, I'd want Cruz to be the nominee, just to see the GOP try and balance their hate for Hillary and their loathing for Cruz.

 

[fantomena]

I just can't wait for Hillary vs. Trump. It's gonna be soooooo god, hilarious and entertaining for my Scandinavian point of view.

Even our right vs. left debates are boring as fuck compared to US politics.

 

[Teggy]

Huffpo has Clinton up by 4+. Right now Cruz isn't being looked at based on his platform, just that he's just one of the not-Trumps. Clinton would win comfortably against him in the end.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-cruz-vs-clinton

Interesting - realclearpolitics has Cruz slightly ahead, likely because they don't include the Reuters online polls that always have Hillary way ahead.

 

[TumblingHippo]

Nights like this are always a good time to point out that people like Cruz are the ones against giving monetary support to Flint Michigan.

 

[Plinko]

Nights like this are always a good time to point out that people like Cruz are the ones against giving monetary support to Flint Michigan.

Which you can guarantee will cost him Michigan.

 

[A Human Becoming]

...and this is why you don't call on the basis of 0.7% of the vote.

He's still not winning by a ton. I guess it's subjective though what you consider a good margin. For me it's 10%. Also I heard it was a "bellwether" county.

EDIT: Louisiana will be the really determinant.

 

[pigeon]

I give up, I don't understand anything that happens in America.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Per Twitter:

Kansas Democratic Party says in an email that they expect to release state winner of the caucus in the next 20 minutes.

 

[tmarg]

So does Rubio drop out?

 

[A Human Becoming]

I give up, I don't understand anything that happens in America.

Per Twitter:

Finally. They're the only state that doesn't release results as they come in.

So does Rubio drop out?

Florida is win or die.

 

[ivysaur12]

Per Twitter:

Wait what. Is that normal?

 

[thefro]

So does Rubio drop out?

If he loses Florida I think he has to.