PopcornMegaphone
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I've never really understood the Castro VP hype.
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People keep saying Trump is the one Dems need to run against and that Cruz is worse. Yes I agree Cruz is worse, they're both scum and worse, but Trump has that random factor that is just beyond terrifying. With Cruz he's easy to paint and show how extreme, bigoted, and crazy he is. He's not going to try to turn that off or pretend otherwise. You know what you're dealing with from start to finish most likely. Trump isn't going to be like that. He will continue to be racist, insulting, etc and then will turn around and play the reporters and those asking him questions. The media will continue to give him free time. He'll still grab those people that feel he's being "real" with them and that's far to risky when in a lot of places around the country. The randomness needs to be removed from equation.
I can understand the desire to want to see Trump removed form the situation as best and as soon as possible and how he is scaring the hell out of people.
I can understand the desire to want to see Trump removed form the situation as best and as soon as possible and how he is scaring the hell out of people.
Macho Madness
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Katy Perry is doing robo calls for Hillary.
What is this random factor? That's what my gf says and it drives me crazy. Trump is just a candidate, he's unpredictable, but he's not fucking magic.
Captain Pants
Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
Hillary is winning with a hyper-local strategy.
Who would have guessed that paying attention to your voters and not being a one note candidate would pay off? It really does seem like she's running a much smarter campaign than she did in 2008.
theprodigy
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If people were voting for Cruz as the anti-Trump that would be one thing.
Kasich? literally idiots
BoboBrazil
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Ted Cruz caught doing dirty tricks again in Hawaii http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...rco-rubio-ted-cruz-hawaii-dirty-tricks-220423
On this front yeah it's stupid. If you're going to do this type of thing (and it rarely works too unless something is super close) then you vote for the person in second or is close to Trump in the poll to get their numbers up. Going for the third or fourth person is stupid.
Wait - he literally went back to the same playbook?
Coriolanus
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"hispanic is an important demographic" + "castro is hispanic" = "castro should be vp"
metalslimer
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I would be fine with either Cruz or trump but I'm worried they will fuck this up somehow and the GOP will look for an opening to nominate Kasich.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Cruz is Nkixon like in his general hyper competence combined with stupid risks to try to screw others over.
theprodigy
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It's not just that, Kasich is easily the strongest candidate for the Republicans, why would you vote for him.
gutter_trash
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plus most notable Dems are old, old and more old
they desperately need younger torch bearers after Hillary's term(s) are over to pick up the mantle
Macho Madness
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I take this as a pretty good indicator that Cruz is winning Idaho:
BoboBrazil
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Her team learned a lesson last time that she's not the best when it comes to big rallies, so they decided to go hyper-local after 2008. As a result Hillary not only gets to operate in her best format, small groups where she can have a conversation, but it also does make people who go to these events feel like she's paying close attention and gets it.
You saw this pay huge dividends in South Carolina. Instead of doing one big rally in a town, they did a series of smaller events, some of which involved surrogates, instead. So while from afar she doesn't seem nearly as invested as Sanders, who holds these huge rallies, in the state she seems far more in-tune with the issues.
Bam Bam Baklava
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You guys are wrong about Cruz. He knows all the dirty tricks in politics and has no shame using them when caught. He is far more dangerous than Trump.
Anyone voting against Trump in the primary because they are worried about him in the general is being a complete and total moron.
Anyone voting against Trump in the primary because they are worried about him in the general is being a complete and total moron.
BoboBrazil
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Agreed.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Dude, a guy that wants a 19% federal sales tax to pay for tax cuts for the rich isn't winning shit.
Especially after Hillary starts showing videos of Cruz's dad talking about prophecy.
Yes, Cruz is one of the smartest and slimiest politicians around.
But it means nothing because none of that changes the fact that he's one of the most disliked figures in recent political history.. He has absolutely no chance at getting the swing voters he needs in a general election to vote for him.
But it means nothing because none of that changes the fact that he's one of the most disliked figures in recent political history.. He has absolutely no chance at getting the swing voters he needs in a general election to vote for him.
Coriolanus
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Good thing his ego doesn't allow him to pull a dick cheney and find some idiot to serve as a face.... yet.
Poodlestrike
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Disliked, and unlikable. The better someone knows Ted Cruz the more they hate him, as a rule, and I see no reason to think that'd change with the general public.
cartoon_soldier
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The Lamonster
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Maybe instead of the GOP splitting, we'll have a major third party called the Authoritarian Party.
I too think Cruz is completely unelectable. But probably not moreso than Trump.
Wes Clarke was Hillary's most likely vp pick in 2008, I think. But back then his (and her) age and "moderateness" weren't factors. Not much balancing of the ticket was required.
I do like Dean though, even if he isn't particularly young either.
Wes Clarke was Hillary's most likely vp pick in 2008, I think. But back then his (and her) age and "moderateness" weren't factors. Not much balancing of the ticket was required.
I do like Dean though, even if he isn't particularly young either.
I think the idea is that in a worst case, If the dem nominee loses, Kasich would be the least offensive republican. They don't want to let Trump or Cruz even get within sniffing distance of the white house.
The republican nominee, whoever it is, will be one scandal/gaffe away from becoming president, so picking the worst one for tactical reasons could be seen as irresponsible.
I don't disagree. But it seems that for the first time in a while we have strong large groups on both sides that may end up being unhappy with the ultimate nominee and there's already seeming discontent with the superdelegate system. So maybe there would be enough will to vote in some basic changes to get us started on a better path.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
439 likes to 499 dislikes. Since I doubt Republicans are watching Sam Bee episodes, I wonder who could be disliking it? hmmmmmmmmmm
Basically, American Authoritarianism is cowardice against racial and social change disguising itself behind blustering tough talk.
Coriolanus
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Why, yes.
RustyNails
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Wouldnt be surprised if Cruz' adviser is zombie Atwater.
Aaron Strife
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The biggest concern about Cruz is that he at least appears to be a standard GOP politician. Trump does not. That might benefit him if the world goes to hell in Obama's last few months, but assuming everything more or less stays the course Trump will make for the easiest candidate to beat.
Trump also literally has zero organization. His ground game is shit, his campaign is something out of the 1950s and he doesn't spend money. He's not going have donor money.
Afraid of what exactly?
I think if Trump's support is durable, we'll have authoritarians sort into the Republican party and libertarians sort into the Democrat party.
Koch about to be a Dem ally : U
Nazgul_Hunter
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Oh Nate, please talk dirty to me.
Oof!
FloydtheFathead
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Ruh-roh
TYT will be Emmy level tonight if that happens.
Macho Madness
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I know the whole "lol Reddit Bernie" thing is getting played out but I have to. They're now linking to shit some random guy says and getting 500+ upvotes.
Knuckle Sandwich
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Same.
They showed a pretty long segment of her show before Revenant and I was cringing out of my seat. Looking back I think it was because the place was full of old folks and every joke was bombing hard.
theprodigy
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Minor gripe with the Democrat primary rules: why are the at-large and PLEOs allocated separately? They're both statewide pledged delegates, it makes no sense to separate them and it occasionally leads to stupid shit like Nevada where they broke 3/2, 4/3 for Hillary while if they were combined it would have been a 6/6 split.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
You are looking at it wrong, imagine you worked at a place for years, worked yourself to become productive (in my line of work production = pay raises). The people just starting or of lower production are getting bumped up to what you worked years to gain. Yes, also there will be some inflation caused by the increased wages, costs will go up, it's a HUGE increase. Not everyone is Wal-Mart or some mega-corp, there are companies that will directly be impacted by such a large increase. Prices will go up, what we charge hopefully will go up, if not now but soon. The increase we are going to see in Oregon is pretty much a 50% increase in min wage over 5 1/2 years.
Since I can't raise prices to equal the huge labor bump, guess who will be fucked.. those people who made more money. They won't see any kind of equivalent bump. It's not that people don't want to see others get money, they want to see what they worked for rewarded. I'm feeling they won't see that, everyone in the middle or above feels it's going to make it harder for them to get further ahead as a consequence of raising up the lowest. The people making the big bucks, they already got them. The mid-level jobs eliminated because of this? Gone. The chances to move up? More limited.
I just think the lower-middle class and middle-class will be the ones who pay for all this.
BTW, People can ask all they want for raises, for the majority of American's that isn't getting you one. You can find a new job easier than asking for a raise and getting it. I do give merit increases, but it's very few in proportion to times I'm asked for an out-of-cycle review raise. The idea people can just ask for money and get it for most people is a ridiculous idea. It's bootstraps level of bs.
The main takeaway from that article is that there is a large group of people in both parties who can become "activated" and rally around a single candidate.
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