Woahwoah, let's not go crazy here. I wouldn't characterize him as popular here, def not highly.
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Woahwoah, let's not go crazy here. I wouldn't characterize him as popular here, def not highly.
Macho Madness
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What about Pence?
I guess that's probably out though as they'd lose the Governership for sure.
I guess that's probably out though as they'd lose the Governership for sure.
More like 2008. Sarah Palin mucked up everything for the GOP.
For everyone who suffered from running into the brick wall of reality in 2004, the republican freakout in 2012 was one of the most glorious and cathartic experiences I've ever seen. It was so obviously coming, and they were so perfectly wrapped up in their bubble to see it. It was glorious.
Yeah, he was really popular last year, hitting 62% approval in October. Maybe it has changed a bit since after running for President.
Still, he could make the difference in that swing state.
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Actually, his approval ratings are in the 60s in Ohio. I was surprised too when I looked it up. It may have crashed a bit since October, but he is, surprisingly, pretty popular. He just doesn't read as bat shit insane. That's what makes him dangerous.
Hahahahahahahaha. Some of that Koch money going to get funneled into a Super PAC created to destroy Trump. There's no way any campaign's pPAC would run ads against him, especially not if it's a contested race. You couldn't risk pissing off hte 20% of people who want to lick Trump's boots.
Pfff, the souls games are just a continuation of their long running King's Field series, and Demon's Souls was clearly intended as a tech demo for moving it to a new third person engine with online play. The small size of the game world and the linear design of each area does no justice to From's usually brilliantly interlinked world design, and the combat mechanics while revolutionary have clearly been refined and polished to a much greater extent in Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2.
I mean, yeah, it's great, it's from From Software after all, but it's far from their best game. King's Field 4's world design blows it out of the water.
http://www.270towin.com/maps/5XpQ4
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I could see it going the other way as well though, with his recent defunding of Planned Parenthood and the possibility of bringing up older issues like SB5 and that he was the original defendant in the Obergefell case, causing the drive of Dems to the polls. If the Democrats had not put forward a complete dumpster fire of a candidate last election, I think we would have a better idea of his ability to help carry the state.
Probably the only time in his life where Rove caused a spontaneous erection.
He told a grown ass woman she could not read and then sent her to the basement-O-Nerds to get "the real numbers"
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lolllllllllll
They're so fucked. All this will do is ensure they get it both ways, from Democrats/Independents who hate Trump and Republicans who support him.
The same women then asked him 'is this real math or just numbers to make yourself feel better as a republican'.
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There's an easier way for us to make him unpalatable to the GOP:
Just remind them that he not only expanded Medicaid but he did it behind the back of the GOP controlled legislature. I mean, it makes me feel shitty, because it is one of the few good things he actually did, but I'm guessing that doesn't bode well for Donald Trump Republicans.
Although what Donald Trump Republicans actually want other than a big effing wall and state approved racism is beyond me.
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Trump up to 79% on Predictwise.
Fair point. I was thinking more along the lines of what is needed to drive Dem turnout, since there are obviously enough dem voters to win the state. I might be overthinking it however, since the main argument needed for that is "Trump is a freaking crazy racist person ohmygod ohmygod dont let him win"
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Agree completely with the first paragraph. I actually kinda favor DS2 on ps4. 1080p/60 is God-tier.
Part of the reason I freak out so badly about Kasich is that I'm utterly baffled that he's still doing so well in the wake of SB5. That was a solid rebuke by the electorate, but he's still able to make people think he's not a bad guy. If Ohio Democrats can forget that kind of conflict this easily, I greatly fear our ability to mobilize any kind of effort against him. It's like the only way we can fight him is after he gets the bad shit done. We're lucky as hell we're not Wisconsin right now.
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I agree with what you're saying. I just think the easier way for us to cripple him is to take him out of contention with the GOP base to begin with. I'm not sure how much the Veep really helps carry a particular state. Romney didn't win any of the states in which he has a home, except Utah. Ryan couldn't deliver Wisconsin for him. Biden was from a safe blue state, as was Leiberman : UGH How did that even happen!? : Edwards was from a red state, so not sure how that would impact a Veep selection from a swing state.
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Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/...rything-you-need-to-know-219849#ixzz41O48sdrW
Gonna be a long night staying up for this. Will need an industrial quantity of coffee for in the morning I suspect.
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I'd never seen the "same since" map on 270towin, pretty interesting. It shows how the country has become slowly more and more polarized since the 60s. http://www.270towin.com/same-since-electoral-maps/
If you stay up more than 4 hours, call a physician.
Dems don't caucus in Alaska on Tuesday so if you don't care about Alaska (and who does, really?) you can get to bed a bit earlier
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Well it'll be about 2 or 3 here by the time we get results in Texas so I'm going to be up for quite a long time anyway. Just have to power on through.
The chat is the main reason I'm staying up, can't miss live results with you guys.
Yes in general.
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There were a couple of ads back in December by the Kasich campaign that not-so-subtly compared Trump to Hitler. He also mentioned he wouldn't support Trump as the nominee during some campaign event around the same time. Of course things change but I wouldn't say he never attacked Trump.
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They're not ideologically aligned. Kasich is, on paper at least, a moderate republican. (In todays bat shit crazy party, at least). He doesn't approve of the Muslim ban or things lik ethat, although he seems to have softened on the whole idea of a wall.
Trump, if he actually wants to win and govern, needs someone like Kasich, but someone who is more in line with this thoughts on....whatever Trump thinks.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the map ends up exactly the same as 2012. Has that ever actually happened before?
Macho Madness
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Bush/Gore essentially set where we are today. 2008 was a realignment of Virginia as a lean-blue state and North Carolina as a swing state but otherwise it's essentially the same.
2016 could be interesting because it could put states in play that otherwise wouldn't be.
The day Idaho goes blue is the day I know things have truly changed. Not since Johnson's landslide in 1964. Nuts.
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Did we ever figure out what happened to Indiana in 2008? How in the hell did Obama end up winning that? I was legit shock at that, and it still surprises me to this day.
How did Carter not win OK when he won everything else down there?
The states Johnson last won have gotten even more conservative.
Macho Madness
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He fought for it hard and got the college kids out to vote. Indiana was scared about the economy and wanted someone different. It was a very unique circumstance that may never be duplicated.
QuiteWhittle
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AFAIK:
1. Massive turnout from Indiana's cities.
2. Obama bothered to put money and infrastructure in and contest the state.
3. Bleed over favorite son effect. Supposedly Indiana shares media markets with a lot of Illinois so any positive local press and enthusiasm bled over.
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Thanks. It was just such a weird thing to see a Dem take it. We lost the Senate seat, so there were ticket splitters. Just...interesting.
Macho Madness
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And then in 2012, Obama lost the state but a Dem got the Senate seat.
The Chicago media market spills into the north-western corner of Indiana, which is where the Gary metro is located. Much more African-American than the rest of Indiana. It's where the Jacksons are from too.
Yeah, I was referring to the debates, where Kasich refused to attack him and has even been cordial to him.
Also, both Christie and LePage said awful things about Trump and they both ended up endorsing him.
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the funniest to me was republican commentators on twitter/fox etc were shocked Wisconsin, PA,NH didnt flip red
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More like this one: http://www.270towin.com/maps/qZvW8
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You're evil.
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After I flipped Nevada and Iowa that outcome did not seem so unrealistic.
Macho Madness
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What should theoretically increase a Dem's chances of taking Indiana is the spillover in Chicago and Indianapolis wanting tighter gun restrictions, and therefore becoming more blue. I think we're a long ways off but Obama showed that it's not an impossible task.
The Indiana legislature however, is trying to ease restrictions on guns. The NRA has a very tight grip.
The Indiana legislature however, is trying to ease restrictions on guns. The NRA has a very tight grip.
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Georgia was more closer in 2012 than AZ, MO or MT.
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Something I've wondered but don't have an answer for: why are states like Minnesota and Iowa reliably blue while the Dakotas aren't? Culturally, they seem very similar, but I'm obviously ignorant about some differentiating factor.
Basileus777
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They're less urbanized. Take away the major cities and Minnesota/Iowa wouldn't be blue.
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Probably due to differences in urbanization. Also fracking and stuff.
Macho Madness
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The Dakotas are very, very rural. Folks that live rurally tend be more conservative.
I know it's just anecdotal but my brother works in the oil fields in North Dakota and he said everyone he knows at his job hates Obama because they think he's going to close the fields one day.
I know it's just anecdotal but my brother works in the oil fields in North Dakota and he said everyone he knows at his job hates Obama because they think he's going to close the fields one day.
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