VendettaRed07
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would it be wrong to read this as a desperate attempt to praise Lincoln without saying how he helped abolished slavery.
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would it be wrong to read this as a desperate attempt to praise Lincoln without saying how he helped abolished slavery.
The Technomancer
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Holy cow that whole interview really is a mess
Frank the Great
Banned
Bernie is such a mess. A goddamn giant fucking mess.
Daily News doing God's work, exposing this fraud.
Daily News doing God's work, exposing this fraud.
Box of Kittens
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It is curious how he never specifies what that "vital thing" was.
Chris Murphy is a good dude. Much better than the mess that is Dannel Malloy.
Macho Madness
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VendettaRed07
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Perhaps he doesn't want to piss off the 20% pro Slavery portion of his base
The Technomancer
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Bernie has managed to get me from "this guy's okay" to actively pissed off in about six months. That's impressive
That's putting it mildly. When you've been on Wall Street Reform your entire career you should absolutely be able to talk about the specifics off the cuff. It was embarrassing, I don't even know what to say after reading it. He doesn't belong in the cabinet, let alone the oval office.
The Technomancer
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Is that threadworthy? I know the whole goddamn OT is sick to the gills of Hillary/Sanders stuff, but that interview is important. More important than some of the bullshit I've made threads about
And_Gignac
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Lol that interview reads like Hillary-GAF fanfiction. I DONT BUY IT. #ReleaseTheAudios
Box of Kittens
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In principle I prefer all states to allocate their electoral votes the same way, and for a variety of reasons (including but not limited to gerrymandering) I prefer winner-take-all over dividing by congressional district. I've been OK with Maine and Nebraska doing it their way since both are small, relatively homogenous states that are unlikely to split in a case where it would effect the outcome, i.e., where the candidates are both close to 270. But ultimately I'm pretty happy to see them get rid of it.
Yes. make it.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
If the proverbial hell froze over, and he won the nomination. I'd have a difficult time voting for him over a possible Bloomberg entry into the election. I'd still vote for him over Trump though. That interview sealed that notion, as someone in the other thread pointed out, if he knows so little about his passionate subjects, what about the other parts of the presidency?
Well, that's certainly one way to go about it.
Aaron Strife
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Get used to seeing maps like this.
I was gonna say I think people keep ignoring Nebraska's CD results but I saw they switched to WTA. Welp!
Yea, I'd say so. Half the threads that get made on the election are total crap, but this is rather important. I think a mod should OK it though so it doesn't get locked within three pages.
Honestly, I'd go Bloomberg over him and I lived through his bullshit. At least he knew how to keep things on the rails.
Because the media has been doing nothing but kissing the entirety of his ass this entire time! Both cheeks, and don't forget the crack!
Because the media has been desperately trying to cover up the fact that the man's a hack in order to further the narrative that he's a serious candidate and a threat to Hillary.
That interview was infuriating. Hillary's been getting dogged for specifics for her plans since DAY ONE. Meanwhile, Bernie's been getting such thought-provoking questions like, "So, do you hate big banks? Or do you really hate big banks?"
Box of Kittens
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GAF threads about the Civil War are always fun, since you always get one or two people who twist the facts like a pretzel to try and blame the North. The last one I remember actually had someone seriously referring to it as "The War of Northern Aggression."
Officerrob
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Is it threadworthy? Absolutely. Is it worth making the thread? Nope
Same here. And now I know he's... Kind of ignorant. Disappointing. He used to be my favorite politician from my former perception he was honest and well versed in the issues facing the country and world...but no.
VendettaRed07
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Malloy is a big fat mistake.
He better not run again in 2018 because he will lose 100%. Regardless of who it's against IMO. We'll end up with Governer Linda McMahon or something
User 463088
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Agreed.
I genuinely think HRC has to have the largest self-esteem in the world. If I were subject to attacks and bullshit like she has for 20+ years, I'd have clinical depression on an unfathomable scale.
Box of Kittens
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The idea that he figured he'd just be a message candidate and wasn't prepared for catching on to the extent that he did really makes sense. As a message candidate he's not too bad. The thought of him actually being the nominee? Yikes.
User 463088
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Again, though, this is his message! How can you be a message candidate and not have even a basic understanding of the legality of your plan? That just doesn't make sense.
The Technomancer
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I don't expect it to actually cause any real dialogue. Straight up: I posted it because I think its the sort of thing that more eyes need to be on. Its not really about the conversation that probably won't happen in the replies, I just want people to see it
I'm not exaggerating how important I find that interview
Which is why I said check with a mod first, or let one make the thread.
I agree, but if it gets locked in a page it won't do much good.
Box of Kittens
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Oh, I'm not arguing. The reason I'm willing to say he's not too bad is that he does talk about some important big picture things (e.g. income inequality). The reason I don't say he's actually a good message candidate is, well, this.
I agree that it's thread worthy. I mean, I don't know how ANYBODY could read that interview and not think that Bernie is just way out of his depth, and to my knowledge this is the first time this entire primary that Bernie's been REALLY pressed for specifics, and he totally failed. People need to know that. I agree with Technomancer, this interview is important. That disastrous Trump interview got a thread, and I'd say this interview is worse, because the expectation is that Trump doesn't know up from down. No ol' Bernie.
But, yeah, I don't see the thread making it to page 5.
But, yeah, I don't see the thread making it to page 5.
Macho Madness
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Don't make it a thread. You'll just piss off Bernie supporters who don't come in this thread. It'll be an endless cycle of garbage until it's locked.
I mean your thread on Sanders supporters harassing Superdelegates was "thread worthy". Didn't stop it from getting locked in 3 pages.
And_Gignac
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He doesnt have to know every specific about everything. Politicians surround themselves with technocrats who guide them, Every president has.
I mean, does Obama understand the physics behind climate change to its more technical core?
Bernie still has the most solid, fair and honest message.
I mean, does Obama understand the physics behind climate change to its more technical core?
Bernie still has the most solid, fair and honest message.
Too late, he did it. It's going as expected.
He's been talking about these issues for years. How can you not learn about the details on the way? I mean, I've learned about so much shit over the years just by keeping my ears open and paying attention. The man is a US Senator running for president, he has to be better than that.
eBay Huckster
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He needs to know at least one specific about THE CENTERPIECE OF HIS GODDAMN CAMPAIGN.
As Jamelle Boule Points out this litterall makes it sound like bernie doesn't understand people disagree with him on the merits not just because they're corporate stooges.
Jamelle's twitter looks real fun at the moment.
User 463088
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This is is one issue. This is the one thing he goes on and on and on about. He said this is the thing that he's going to do in the first year of his presidency. The fact that he doesn't even know how to do it, nor if it's legal is a huge freaking thing. He's going around promising he's going to do something he doesn't seem to know he can or can't do. It's a problem.
Also, I question his willingness or ability to listen to anyone who doesn't immediately agree with him on everything. it took until last month to actually hire a foreign policy adviser...and that was the issue he, literally, knew next to nothing about. This is supposed to be his bread and butter and he's completely out of his depth on his core issue!
googleplex
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because this is exactly how i feel about him. I'm like one week away from "Fuck Bernie" mode.
The Technomancer
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No, but if you asked Obama off the cuff in an interview about some of the proposals he'd like to see the global community embrace I suspect his answer would be more detailed than "we have to stop polluting and we need to make sure that happens"
I said "Fuck Bernie" the moment he replied "We'll see" to whether he would support local democrats.
It's ok that Sanders doesn't understand the legal and economic implications and consequences of breaking up all the big banks just 'cause, because he's the only honest candidate and cares about everyday people like us. I'm voting Mike Beitiks for Senate after I'm done facebanking the good people of New York City.
TheLostBigBoss
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being a scientist and understand the rather complex systems of climate change is pretty fucking different than not knowing about case law and if your entire premiss is even fucking possible.
Of course he'll run. He's a mess.
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