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PoliGAF 2016 |OT6| Delete your accounts

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neurosisxeno said:
No way, he challenged him to a game of HORSE. Have you SEEN that man shoot hoops?

Edit: Are you guys happy? I'm as cynical about Sanders as you all now :p
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One of us. One of us. One of us.

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Abinash117

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Yeah I posted a similar article about Trump campaigning in some democrat states. It is really stupid and will be extremely expensive. I'm guessing he is thinking that some of the Republican donors will help fund all this stuff, but I doubt they help somewhat. I guarantee that RNC and/or Trumps campaign will be extremely close to being broke as they will have to help Trump campaign in Democrat strongholds, protect other states that use to vote Republican but is now could be competitive( because of Trump), defend seats, and attack Democrats. I also think he doesn't even have offices in some battleground states yet.

ampere said:
I don't think he's doing nerd stuff like advertisements.

Just ol' fashioned Trump rallies. People love them. So many people. No Mexican flags allowed
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He doesn't have the money yet to do ads. But'll have to do some ads eventually I think, because he can't be everywhere at once. The main problem I bet Trump has is very little surrogates. A Obama, Hillary, Bill, Joe, and possibly Bernie team( plus superpacs) will all go against Trump and the Republicans, and some Republicans won't help Trump even if they verbally support him. I think that is why Trump wants to unify the party. He won't stand a chance against an onslaught like that and some Republicans won't lift a finger to support him in practical ways.
 
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BanGy.nz

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Shunning a data driven campaign in favour of big rallies combined with contesting unwinnable states! The RNC must be having a fit.
 
davepoobond

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
eBay Huckster said:
is hillary in jail yet
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they are going to wrap her up with transcripts of her hitler-like wall street speeches and put her private server on her head then shove her off into the Pacific Ocean where she can be picked up by her Chinese overlords once she finally gets into the South China Sea.
 
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ampere

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Abinash117 said:
Yeah I posted a similar article about Trump campaigning in some democrat states. It is really stupid and will be extremely expensive. I'm guessing he is thinking that some of the Republican donors will help fund all this stuff, but I doubt they help somewhat. I guarantee that RNC and/or Trumps campaign will be extremely close to being broke as they will have to help Trump campaign in Democrat strongholds, protect other states that use to vote Republican but is now could be competitive( because of Trump), defend seats, and attack Democrats. I also think he doesn't even have offices in some battleground states yet.

He doesn't have the money yet to do ads. But'll have to do some ads eventually I think, because he can't be everywhere at once. The main problem I bet Trump has is very little surrogates. A Obama, Hillary, Bill, Joe, and possibly Bernie team( plus superpacs) will all go against Trump and the Republicans, and some Republicans won't help Trump even if they verbally support him. I think that is why Trump wants to unify the party. He won't stand a chance against an onslaught like that and some Republicans won't lift a finger to support him in practical ways.
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Yea I saw WSJ and NBC articles this past week saying he hadn't made offices in Ohio or Florida yet.

I don't think he's shunning analytics for financial reasons, I think it's largely his ego. You may be right about his finances, I haven't seen any data about his situation in that regard
 
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royalan

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Tar-Miriel said:
So does poligaf ever talk of anything besides the campaign? There are other things going on you know (as strange as that seems) for example, apparently we are selling weapons to Vietnam now which i find just a bit amusing. Want to see Obama eating "cheap but delicious" noodles in Hanoi? find out more here
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/world/asia/vietnam-us-arms-embargo-obama.html
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Be the conversation you want to see happen. Don't be upset that people aren't talking about what you want them to talk about.

Yes, this thread talks a lot about the upcoming election. It's kind of a big deal. If you want something else to be discussed, introduce the topic.
 
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Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Tar-Miriel said:
So does poligaf ever talk of anything besides the campaign? There are other things going on you know (as strange as that seems) for example, apparently we are selling weapons to Vietnam now which i find just a bit amusing. Want to see Obama eating "cheap but delicious" noodles in Hanoi? find out more here
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/world/asia/vietnam-us-arms-embargo-obama.html
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You are welcome to link whatever political stuff you find interesting, in all likelihood someone will notice. Unless it's some of my posts which get ignored.
 
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Tar-Miriel

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royalan said:
Be the conversation you want to see happen. Don't be upset that people aren't talking about what you want them to talk about.

Yes, this thread talks a lot about the upcoming election. It's kind of a big deal. If you want something else to be discussed, introduce the topic.
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Im not upset, i just get a little tired of hearing about about the campaign sometimes, though I expect it will become more interesting come the general election.
 
HUELEN10

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Jack Remington said:
How long after June 7th do we think Bernie Bros will keep convincing themselves that they care about Emailgate?
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Not being a bernie bro, I wouldn't know.

As a supporter and prior voter of Sanders though, the email thing is one of the strongest cases against voting for Clinton in my honest opinion. As a citizen and a technology enthusiast, it absolutely sickens me.
 
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Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
HUELEN10 said:
Not being a bernie bro, I wouldn't know.

As a supporter and prior voter of Sanders though, the email thing is one of the strongest cases against voting for Clinton in my honest opinion. As a citizen and a technology enthusiast, it absolutely sickens me.
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A technology enthusiast that has had to deal with government and technology at the same time?
 
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Abinash117

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ampere said:
Yea I saw WSJ and NBC articles this past week saying he hadn't made offices in Ohio or Florida yet.

I don't think he's shunning analytics for financial reasons, I think it's largely his ego. You may be right about his finances, I haven't seen any data about his situation in that regard
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He has like 2.5 million on hand right now and raised around 60 million. I don't really know what he spends his money on, but it it is not on staff or offices, because Hillary has about like 700 staff and Trump much, much less than that. Some donors still aren't willing to give him money.

Tar-Miriel said:
So does poligaf ever talk of anything besides the campaign? There are other things going on you know (as strange as that seems) for example, apparently we are selling weapons to Vietnam now which i find just a bit amusing. Want to see Obama eating "cheap but delicious" noodles in Hanoi? find out more here
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/world/asia/vietnam-us-arms-embargo-obama.html
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It has a lot to do with China and Obama's 'pivot' to Asia. There has been increased tensions in the South Asian sea. Obama as been really aggressive military wise.
 
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Cesare Borgia said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-states/?postshare=5141464312900343&tid=ss_tw

Wonder what the RNC thinks about this.
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I sort of understand campaigning for NY because he somehow thinks that because he's from there, democrats will magically vote for him, but I don't understand what possesses him to think he has any shot at all in California. Especially not when the Hispanic population is the plurality here. He could not ask for a worse state demographically then California.
 
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HUELEN10

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hawk2025 said:
lol

I'm actually often impressed at how good Huelen is at baiting while being resolutely bait-proof.
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It's not bait, I think too highly of poliGAF to deem it as such, and to assume horrid tactics like that, it was an honest question, and though an outsider, I gave an opinion, an opinion that others share, that's it.
 
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HUELEN10 said:
It's not bait, I think too highly of poliGAF to deem it as such, and to assume horrid tactics like that, it was an honest question, and though an outsider, I gave an opinion, an opinion that others share, that's it.
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Your, sentence, doesn't, have, enough, commas,,,,,,,,
 
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darkside31337

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Trump is taking the concept of the 50 state strategy and actually doing the 50 state strategy. He knows he can't win these states, thats not the point. You want to garner as much support everywhere you can. Maybe you can't win California or NY but you can get more people there to support you in terms of money, in terms of optics and they can help you get votes in regions where you actually do need to win because they have friends and family in other states.

He'll scale back as the general gets closer but theres nothing wrong with trying to appeal to a general population of people this far out.
 
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Spoiled Milk

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Tar-Miriel said:
Huh, I didn't realize this was a thing. who's causing tensions? China?
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China, India, North Korea, South Korea, Japan, the Philippines, and sometimes Myanmar.

One day we'll be talking about the stability of Middle Eastern nations in the same way that we talk about internecine conflicts in Africa. We won't.
 
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Suikoguy

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Yeah, China may be the biggest antagonizer, but they are not solely at fault.

I guess you need to somehow get all parties at a table to negoiate water borders.
 
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hawk2025

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Bait doesn't have to be willful to be bait!


If a fisherman earnestly drops a bucket full of worms into a lake with no intention of catching them, will the fish not bite?
 
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Spoiled Milk

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Suikoguy said:
Yeah, China may be the biggest antagonizer, but they are not solely at fault.

I guess you need to somehow get all parties at a table to negoiate water borders.
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We should let them pull a Monroe doctrine and shift our alliances. China has earned every inch of power it has. I see no reason why it shouldn't be the dominant power in the region. Someday, China will be the most powerful nation in the world and we will be happy we're on their side as their older, but less significant, brother - just like the happy relationship we've had with Great Britain.
 
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HUELEN10

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darkside31337 said:
Trump is taking the concept of the 50 state strategy and actually doing the 50 state strategy. He knows he can't win these states, thats not the point. You want to garner as much support everywhere you can. Maybe you can't win California or NY but you can get more people there to support you in terms of money, in terms of optics and they can help you get votes in regions where you actually do need to win because they have friends and family in other states.

He'll scale back as the general gets closer but theres nothing wrong with trying to appeal to a general population of people this far out.
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Yep! Jewish dems tried a similar thing in Florida with the great schlep. It's a sound tactic; great posts.


RustyNails said:
Heulen what do you feel about Ben Carson today? Would you still vote for him?
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I don't like hypotheticals because they are pointless. That being said, if it was Clinton vs Carson in a general, you bet your ass I would vote for him.
 
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Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
hawk2025 said:
Bait doesn't have to be willful to be bait!


If a fisherman earnestly drops a bucket full of worms into a lake with no intention of catching them, will the fish not bite?
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This is getting way too meta for me.
 
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Abinash117

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Tar-Miriel said:
Huh, I didn't realize this was a thing. who's causing tensions? China?
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China claims a large portion of the sea; I don't know their agenda, but I feel it has something to increase their economic and military influence on the region. All countries like Vietnam, Japan, the Philippines, etc all claim portions of the sea for whatever reasons. The US is pretty much being aggressive with it by sending in navy ships to challenge them since the Chinese has been building islands there. The Chinese accuse Obama of lifting the sanctions on Vietnam because of China, Obama said it really isn't though. Obama has been trying to get closer to many Asian countries through the his terms and the TPP is one of the ways of influencing those countries.
 
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hawk2025

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I'd wager he does know about it.


But defending the left wing of Latin America right now is a complete nonstarter. He's not about to open that can of worms.
 
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HUELEN10 said:
I don't like hypotheticals because they are pointless. That being said, if it was Clinton vs Carson in a general, you bet your ass I would vote for him.
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Ben Carson said:
“How about we have a transgender bathroom?” Carson asked Fusion anchor Jorge Ramos in a Thursday interview, adding that “t’s not fair for them to make everybody else uncomfortable."

Carson went on to say that he thought everybody has equal rights, "but I’m not sure anybody should have extra rights — extra rights when it comes to redefining everything for everybody else and imposing your view on everybody else."

Human Rights Campaign denounced the remarks. "Ben Carson can’t go a week without invoking reckless and irresponsible stereotypes about the LGBT community, and his suggestion that transgender people be required to use segregated bathrooms echoes an ugly past our country should never revisit," the group's president, Chad Griffin, said in a statement.
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You want to vote for that?
 
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Holmes

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The only thing I dislike about Trump campaigning in New York is that there are some low hanging fruit House seats upstate and one on Long Island that the Democrats can easily take, but Trump campaigning there might help the Republican incumbents. Or maybe not.
 
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