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[Retromelon]

Let's wade into the cavalcade of stupidity, hatred and shameless pandering that is conservatives on twitter!

I read the transcript posted on gaf. Obama did not apologize, he said it was a terrible event, which is evident to everyone. The only way to draw the above conclusion is by already not liking Obama and molesting the usage of the word 'basically'.

On to the ziploc baggy of jism himself, Dinesh D'Souza:
Btw, on his twitter is a very entertaining trailer for his upcoming movie, "Hillary's America". It's very bombastic, the movie will probably be great for a laugh.

The picture above the tweet was Hillary riding a broom in the skies above the capitol building which made me lol despite the rampant sexism

 

[Tamanon]

I imagine Biden would've compared Bernie to that uncle at Thanksgiving dinners who has a good heart, but is just too crazy. And it would've stuck.

 

[B-Dubs]

I didn't even think about Biden vs Bernie. That would have been so great to watch.

I imagine Biden would've compared Bernie to that uncle at Thanksgiving dinners who has a good heart, but is just too crazy. And it would've stuck.

If Bernie doesn't chill Biden needs to be let loose. He'll say the thing we all know is true that everyone else is too kind to say. God I wish he could be VP again.

 

[Suikoguy]

Sigh why do I bother trying to talk with Bernie supporters? I just showed evidence against their argument but their rebuttal was "shut the fuck up" and rolled their eyes at me. Shillary indeed.

It's wanting to convince people to at least see your point. You have to know when someone is "lost" and redirect your resources. But having mostly civil conversation with some people can yield results. Don't expect them to suddenly agree with everything you are arguing, but getting them to question things is progress.

I gotta admit, and I don't mean to be a shady lady here, that I feel....not happy, but vindicated, I guess, that other people are finally seeing in the Bernie campaign the things a lot of us have been talking about for a while.

Also, Vindicated by Dashboard Confessional is an awesome song. There. I said it. I mean, it's no Nickleback...but what is?

Spoiler

I don't like Nickleback

If you said you liked Nickelback, nobody would be surprised

Bernie's campaign and supporters are getting more unpleasant the longer this drags on.

Weeks ago someone brought up Cults and how they end up with the most die hard supporters (aka True Believers). That's what's happened here. But, look at recent Bernie threads in the OT, and those that did not want to drink the koolaid have either realized or started to realize what is going on. So don't get mad at those who left the cult, it won't accomplish anything.

Basically put, there are 2 things i'm worried about.
1.) Lack of enthusiasm due to continued allegations of fraud.
2.) The remaining true believers really fucking things up, with Manson lite at the helm. Actions of which will further reduce enthusiasm and participation in the GE.

 

[metalslimer]

Hilary could have nuked Bernie a long time ago but after the 2008 primary didn't want to get as nasty. I think it will also play well in the general election as someone who can keep their composure vs Trump. Biden would have laughed at Bernie from the first debate. He would have been pushed out while the real debate between Clinton and Biden happened

 

[excelsiorlef]

https://twitter.com/60th_Street/status/736568008378855425

Brilliant

 

[Cipherr]

I gotta admit, and I don't mean to be a shady lady here, that I feel....not happy, but vindicated, I guess, that other people are finally seeing in the Bernie campaign the things a lot of us have been talking about for a while.

Same.

It was really frustrating that it seemed just subtle enough for a lot of people to not pick up on it. But he really ruined that with the DNC demand and the Aids coalition same day flip flop.

Glad he decided to show his ass.

 

[B-Dubs]

Hilary could have nuked Bernie a long time ago but after the 2008 primary didn't want to get as nasty. I think it will also play well in the general election as someone who can keep their composure vs Trump. Biden would have laughed at Bernie from the first debate. He would have been pushed out while the real debate between Clinton and Biden happened

A Clinton/Biden primary would have been something to see.

 

[excelsiorlef]

I gotta admit, and I don't mean to be a shady lady here, that I feel....not happy, but vindicated, I guess, that other people are finally seeing in the Bernie campaign the things a lot of us have been talking about for a while.

Also, Vindicated by Dashboard Confessional is an awesome song. There. I said it. I mean, it's no Nickleback...but what is?

Spoiler

I don't like Nickleback

Absolutely. I mean I had people calling for my head when I made that Planned Parenthood thread. It's sad that someone who could have bern a force for good isn't but vindication is the perfect word for how I feel.



Good News: DNC stood by Frank and co
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a9a3...s-fails-oust-clinton-backers-convention-roles

 

[Wilsongt]

Absolutely. I mean I had people calling for my head when I made that Planned Parenthood thread. It's sad that someone who could have bern a force for good isn't but vindication is the perfect word for how I feel.



Good News: DNC stood by Frank and co
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a9a3...s-fails-oust-clinton-backers-convention-roles

Look at all those establishment shills in the pocket of big pharma.

 

[Bowdz]

Absolutely. I mean I had people calling for my head when I made that Planned Parenthood thread. It's sad that someone who could have bern a force for good isn't but vindication is the perfect word for how I feel.



Good News: DNC stood by Frank and co
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a9a3...s-fails-oust-clinton-backers-convention-roles

Was awesome to see the DNC didn't bow to Bernie's threats.

The appropriate response to the Sanders campaign at this point will continue to be "Come at me bro!"

 

[Jenov]

Ugh, on CNN just heard a Bernie pundit (Harlan Hill?) cite "Coin flips and Super Delegates" as ways that Debbie Wasserman Schultz has been rigging the primary for Hillary.
-____________-

Meanwhile, the Hillary side kept trying to appeal to unity, and asked for him to stop trying to excuse Bernie's loss on corruption when it's clearly not, and the overwhelming numbers show that.

 

[B-Dubs]

Was awesome to see the DNC didn't bow to Bernie's threats.

The appropriate response to the Sanders campaign at this point will continue to be "Come at me bro!"

Yup. He lost, he doesn't get everything he wants. He's lucky he gets any concessions.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

https://twitter.com/60th_Street/status/736568008378855425

I think there's something for both trump and Sanders voters, especially older white who are angry they aren't the standard bearers for who should be listened to. I think the youth always think everybody over 40 is a shill though

 

[Crayons]

If the primary was held today I think I would've voted for Hillary after this AIDS establishment bullshit

 

[eBay Huckster]

if they held revotes in all the primaries, is clinton's popular vote lead anything less than 20%?

 

[dramatis]

Aren't we all getting a little too hot headed here

 

[Wilsongt]

bernie is probably going to get a financial bump today. Something about a 28th wedding anniversary and $28 donations.

 

[NeoXChaos]

how do you add polls to topics?

 

[dramatis]

how do you add polls to topics?

You ask a mod

 

[B-Dubs]

how do you add polls to topics?

Gotta ask a mod to do it.

 

[BlastProcessing]

Aren't we all getting a little too hot headed here

Probably, but it has been a epically bad 48 hours for Sanders.

A lot of us, have hope that he will snap out of it, but he just keeps fucking that chicken.

 

[NeoXChaos]

okay. I'll ask Y2kev when I'm ready.

It is going to be "Now that Hillary is the Democratic Nominee, BernieGAF who will you support in November?"

A. Hillary
B. Trump
C. 3rd Party
D. Stay Home

 

[eBay Huckster]

actually speaking of revotes and polls, i wanna see where OT stands now compared to before the campaign

 

[B-Dubs]

Probably, but it has been a epically bad 48 hours for Sanders.

A lot of us, have hope that he will snap out of it, but he just keeps fucking that chicken.

If Barney Frank is right then this is just who Bernie is. There's not going to be any snapping out of it. It'll only get worse the more he's indulged.

 

[Dominican Power]

Hugh Hewitt was on MSNBC talking a whole bunch of nonsense. Acting like he's a 100% sure that Hillary is going to be indicted. He knows she most likely won't but he wants to put that message out there to those voters that are undecided.

 

[sangreal]

Got my nj sample ballot today and 2 of the people on bernie's delegate slate are old friends of mine. Makes me feel bad for voting against him, but oh well. He is going to get crushed in my county anyway

 

[jack_package_200]

Ron must not be feeling the kinship anymore

 

[royalan]

Wow, Bernie Sanders sure has made a mess of things in the last 24 hours, hasn't he?

Setting himself up well for those negotiations that are sure to come.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Ron must not be feeling the kinship anymore

God I feel dirty saying that Paul is right on point. No one talking about this is hilarious

 

[FloydtheFathead]

Ron must not be feeling the kinship anymore

God I feel dirty saying that Paul is right on point. No one talking about this is hilarious

How I feel too.. The fact that even friggen Ron Paul realizes Bernie's screw-up in that interview illustrates how badly he botched it and how bad it looks.

 

[Plumbob]

okay. I'll ask Y2kev when I'm ready.

It is going to be "Now that Hillary is the Democratic Nominee, BernieGAF who will you support in November?"

A. Hillary
B. Trump
C. 3rd Party
D. Stay Home

Add "write in Bernie"

 

[Aaron Strife]

Add "write in Bernie"

Ugh fuuuuck anyone who does this.

If you're going to throw away your vote at least do it on a third party candidate who's actually running.

I don't think it's much better but writing in Bernie has no more value than writing in Mickey Mouse.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

Add "write in Bernie"

And Roque De La Fuente

 

[Suikoguy]

Ugh fuuuuck anyone who does this.

If you're going to throw away your vote at least do it on a third party candidate who's actually running.

I don't think it's much better but writing in Bernie has no more value than writing in Mickey Mouse.

Seriously, write ins need to be registered to actually be counted in most states.

 

[blackw0lf]

Time interview with Bernie where he accuses the Hillary campaign and the DNC of stacking the deck before the primary, and that millions of his voters were disenfranchised, essentially calling her nomination illegitimate

http://time.com/4348664/bernie-sanders-time-interview-democratic-party-hillary-clinton/

One of the problems we’re dealing with, Secretary Clinton received the support of over 400 superdelegates before anybody else announced for the race. That’s called an anointment. Then you raise all kinds of money on top of that. You try to end the nominating process before the first ballot is cast. I think they have been shocked that as we sit here in late May we have a shot to win the California primary on June 7. That I think they never believed would happen. They wanted to end this thing before the first ballot was cast. That is totally absurd and it’s absurd for two reasons. It is clearly undemocratic. It is a way for the establishment to push their candidate forward....

Here’s what I think. The rules are what they are right now. And the rules include the fact that we have had to compete in closed primaries. I would say that the election results would be very, very different in many states if all people in those states had a right to vote rather than just people who had registered in New York state months—was it six months—could we have won New York State? I don’t know, maybe not. I’ll tell you it would have been a hell of a lot closer. If you had anything resembling a fair election process. and that is true in many, many other states.

If we end up forty-eight, forty-nine [percent of the delegates], fighting in states where millions of our supporters were disenfranchised and not able to vote, and if we are in a situation where 400 or more pledged delegates—superdelegates for Hillary Clinton—came on board before the first ballot was cast, do I think we have a right to say to those superdelegates, look, your job is not to tell us who you supported months before the first ballot was cast. Your job is determined in these very difficult times which candidate can most clearly defeat Donald Trump. Look at the evidence. And if you conclude that Bernie Sanders is the one to prevent Donald Trump from getting into the White House, do your duty to America and the Democratic Party: support Bernie Sanders. That’s where I am....

.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Time interview with Bernie where he accuses the Hillary campaign and the DNC of stacking the deck before the primary, and that millions of his voters were disenfranchised, essentially calling her nomination illegitimate

http://time.com/4348664/bernie-sanders-time-interview-democratic-party-hillary-clinton/

.

I love when he goes off on closed primaries and ignores that she's won more open ones then him and that the reason he's remotely competitive is because his supporters were likely really loud and obnoxious at caucuses aka the states with the lowest turn outs.


Not to mention Super delegates are the only reason he's going to be able to "take this to the convention. And of course he flat out implies they should switch to him against the results of the primaries. Excellent double speak.

Never his fault, always a conspiracy.

Bernie Sanders is the left wing Alex Jones.

 

[JP_]

Hope you all watched Sanders on Bill Maher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9AwjZWboIk

Just like I predicted he would if the debate actually happened, he tore into Trump and called for Dems to unite against him in the GE -- he even refused to take the bait to attack Clinton over the recent email report.

I thought he was supposed to be a monster only exploiting the media attention to eviscerate Clinton and burn the Democratic party to the ground because he's only in it for his own selfish ego?? Weird.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Time interview with Bernie where he accuses the Hillary campaign and the DNC of stacking the deck before the primary, and that millions of his voters were disenfranchised, essentially calling her nomination illegitimate

http://time.com/4348664/bernie-sanders-time-interview-democratic-party-hillary-clinton/

.

He himself makes a undemocratic argument that because I voted earlier my vote should count less.

The amount of mental gymnastics he's going through this season is crazy. Guy has no intellectual integrity. He really believes he magically had more voters and supporters even when everything has show he doesn't.

He cant understand democratically he lost.

 

[blackw0lf]

Hope you all watched Sanders on Bill Maher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9AwjZWboIk

Just like I predicted he would if the debate actually happened, he tore into Trump and called for Dems to unite against him in the GE -- he even refused to take the bait to attack Clinton over the recent email report.

I thought he was supposed to be a monster only exploiting the media attention to eviscerate Clinton and burn the Democratic party to the ground because he's only in it for his own selfish ego?? Weird.

The problem is effectively saying Hillary's nomination is illegitimate makes it difficult for the party to unify against Trump

The problem for Bernie isn't that he's selfish. It's that he's not self-aware.

At least not as much as he needs to be.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Someone should press him to name which state disenfranchised millions of voters, because that's quite a claim.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

I love when he goes off on closed primaries and ignores that she's won more open ones then him and that the reason he's remotely competitive is because his supporters were likely really loud and obnoxious at caucuses aka the states with the lowest turn outs.


Not to mention Super delegates are the only reason he's going to be able to "take this to the convention. And of course he flat out implies they should switch to him against the results of the primaries. Excellent double speak.

Never his fault, always a conspiracy.

Bernie Sanders is the left wing Alex Jones.

It reminds me when I was a teenager arguing with my parents. I knew I was right so when they made a good point I'd drop that on try to argument something else or procedural to convince myself that I wasn't wrong

 

[JP_]

The problem is effectively saying Hillary's nomination is illegitimate makes it difficult for the party to unify against Trump

The problem for Bernie isn't that he's selfish. It's that he's not self-aware

Well, good thing he didn't say it was illegitimate.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

do your duty to America and the Democratic Party: support Bernie Sanders. That’s where I am....

the ego on this man

 

[border]

Not to mention Super delegates are the only reason he's going to be able to "take this to the convention. And of course he flat out implies they should switch to him against the results of the primaries. Excellent double speak.

Never his fault, always a conspiracy.

I think this is part of why he has such millennial appeal. It's their usual way of explaining failure - "If I didn't get the thing that I wanted, it's not because of my own personal failing, but some devious outside force!"

 

[JP_]

He himself makes a undemocratic argument that because I voted earlier my vote should count less.

The amount of mental gymnastics he's going through this season is crazy. Guy has no intellectual integrity. He really believes he magically had more voters and supporters even when everything has show he doesn't.

He cant understand democratically he lost.

Pretty sure he's referring to super delegates that pledged to support Clinton the same day she announced her candidacy, which is before other candidates had even gotten into the race, and obviously before any voting had taken place. He's not talking about states that voted earlier.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Hope you all watched Sanders on Bill Maher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9AwjZWboIk

Just like I predicted he would if the debate actually happened, he tore into Trump and called for Dems to unite against him in the GE -- he even refused to take the bait to attack Clinton over the recent email report.

I thought he was supposed to be a monster only exploiting the media attention to eviscerate Clinton and burn the Democratic party to the ground because he's only in it for his own selfish ego?? Weird.

Actions speak louder than words.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Well, good thing he didn't say it was illegitimate.

Ah he didn't say the magic words! People can't get context.

This is like the racial dog whistling that the right-wing did for so long. His supporters know what he's saying, what he's implying. But he can pretend "I didn't say that"

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

He himself makes a undemocratic argument that because I voted earlier my vote should count less.

The amount of mental gymnastics he's going through this season is crazy. Guy has no intellectual integrity. He really believes he magically had more voters and supporters even when everything has show he doesn't.

He cant understand democratically he lost.

I've been going back and forth for a while.

The nature of his campaign means he needs some type of outrage during times of loss to keep people going and donating. I think he's trying to scrap up what little support he has left in terms of donors and making the push for Cali, the only way to do that is to do what he's doing now, make a fit, get people riled up a bit and do the big push.

If he really wanted to damage Clinton he would have done it by now, he's had ample chance. He's going after small little hinki dinky things like committee chairs and stuff like that, doing interviews and using trigger words to get some of his base all up in arms and active.

California is his final push, his final chance to get some more leverage before the convention, if he fails there he knows a lot of what he thinks he has in terms of leverage will be gone.

Sanders is an asshole, but if he wanted to nuke the DNC he would have done it by now

 

[Retromelon]

I think this is part of why he has such millennial appeal. It's their usual way of explaining failure - "If I didn't get the thing that I wanted, it's not because of my own personal failing, but some devious outside force!"

yeah? As a bernie supporter and a millenial, please, generalize more