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sc0la

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Geriatrics can't move good

At the Hillary Clinton Center For Geriatrics Who Can't Move Good And Wanna Learn To Do Corruption Good Too, we teach you that there's more to life than being really, really ridiculously establishment.
 
McDonalds Establishment meals are provided daily.

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You know what grinds my gears about "Democrats do nothing for the white working class!"? Women are a huge part of the white working class and working class women often have abortions.

Republicans want to ban abortions and IUDs.

People need to bring this argument down to "white, male working class."
 
Another $20 for Equitas Health.

Fuck. These people need to stop pissing me off or I'ma be broke, living on the street under a bridge like a troll.
 
You know what grinds my gears about "Democrats do nothing for the white working class!"? Women are a huge part of the white working class and working class women often have abortions.

Republicans want to ban abortions and IUDs.

People need to bring this argument down to "white, male working class."

since when have republicans done anything for the white (male) working class?
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
``The process has worked,`` said Democratic National Chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who insisted that it would even when many observers were predicting a deadlocked convention. Wasserman Schultz said Clinton ``will be our nominee,`` and called her ``a figure our party can easily unite around.``

Even before the votes were counted, Sanders vowed to continue his candidacy to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia next month.

``I`m running to win the party`s nomination`` Sanders said, pointing out that Clinton`s support includes ``a great body of delegates that are fluid.``

The challenger meant that several hundred Clinton delegates are not formally pledged to her, but are officially uncommitted delegates who have endorsed the former Secretary of State.

There was little chance, though, that many of these delegates would abandon their endorsement of Clinton, and Sanders`s candidacy now appears to be a symbolic campaign to influence the party platform and enhance Sanders`s own power and self-esteem.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...support-massachusetts-governor-four-primaries
 
You know what grinds my gears about "Democrats do nothing for the white working class!"? Women are a huge part of the white working class and working class women often have abortions.

Republicans want to ban abortions and IUDs.

People need to bring this argument down to "white, male working class."

That's kind of a muddled argument to make when the focus is on jobs and wages.
 

blackw0lf

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Ok this is a little better

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-democratic-primary-not-rigged-just-dumb/

Bernie Sanders: Democratic primary not "rigged," just "dumb"

"What has upset me, and what I think is -- I wouldn't use the word 'rigged' because we knew what the rules were -- but what is really dumb, is that you have closed primaries, like in New York State, where three million people who were Democrats or Republicans could not participate," Sanders added. "You have a situation where over 400 super delegates came on board Clinton's campaign before anybody else was in the race, eight months before the first vote was cast. That's not rigged, I think it's just a dumb process which has certainly disadvantaged our campaign."
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Well I thought when he accepted the "concession" from Woman Who is Lower Than a Dog Wasserman Schultz (which was obviously bullshit) he was looking for an off ramp, but then he ramped it up again. Maybe it's bad internal polling in CA. lol.
 
since when have republicans done anything for the white (male) working class?

Very little I think. That is something that isn't really discussed in length. The Republican's policies is inherently favorable to businesses and wealthier individuals. Solemnly, their policies target directly to the underclass of people unless it benefits the wealthy. Although , the Republican Party is ideology diverse to a point. With conservatives perhaps supporting measures that is more to do with ideology. One reason why some conservatives still make a big deal gay marriage or transsexuals while the more establishment want to move on from stuff like that; not necessary caring about the issue. In my view, the Republican Party mainly don't care about social issues, but it helps to support conservative issues to get voters since they won't vote for Dems. The party operates on the philosophy of "tricking down" and working hard, stuff like that appeals to mainly working class people. I really believe that the working class people believe that supporting big business will eventually trickle down to them and they'll see the benefits of their hard work. So not much reason to directly help these individuals and it also helps that working class people are hold some conservative views, but I don't think they are ideologues.

The don't really support welfare because many of them think minorities are lazy and undeserving of support, and the white working class, in their minds do not get the same support as minorities do. They support social security and such because I think many believe they worked for it and therefor deserve it.
 

Teggy

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So libertarians don't believe in taxes? Without taxes you have no govt. So they don't believe in government? Isn't that just anarchy? Or do they watch Robocop and think, OCP, that's a great idea!
 

kadotsu

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So libertarians don't believe in taxes? Without taxes you have no govt. So they don't believe in government? Isn't that just anarchy? Or do they watch Robocop and think, OCP, that's a great idea!

They are running for to be the leader of a government that does not govern. So in a way, everyone in that picture has already achieved the libertarian presidency.
 
The Libertarian Party has been growing over the past few election cycles. Hopefully they continue to grow, but at the expense of the Republican Party. The Never Trump faction will probably not vote for Hillary, but I can see them wasting their vote on Gary Johnson.
 

Ether_Snake

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"Who will build the roads?"

"In the future we will have jet packs." -Austin Petersen, Libertarian Presidential Candidate

An libertarian president will work hard to cut regulations and to weaken the federal government. I do not even know what there main issues is with how the government should actually be run in terms of federalism. In my guess their main issue are the federal government, but not state government so I doubt they care what the individual states do. Although, I assume some are hypocrites about it and will use federal powers to weaken certain state governments to enact certain laws that goes against libertarian policy.

Wrong, they want no government, not even at the state level, and have everything privatized.
 
An libertarian president will work hard to cut regulations and to weaken the federal government. I do not even know what there main issues is with how the government should actually be run in terms of federalism. In my guess their main issue are the federal government, but not state government so I doubt they care what the individual states do. Although, I assume some are hypocrites about it and will use federal powers to weaken certain state governments to enact certain laws that goes against libertarian policy.
 

Teggy

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Gary Johnson said:
“I am not an old white guy, and I am not Republican-lite,” said Johnson,

Says white guy 2 years short of retirement age.

Also, I liked this bit from Darryl Perry's page:

Crime
All peaceful prisoners should be released, so long as their offense does not have a victim. Police should no longer arrest or ticket people for offenses with no victim, and such crimes should be eliminated from federal statutes, state statutes and local ordinances.

Free parking for everyone!
 
So, I'm doing the June thread and it's a drag race themed one. I'm casting each of the three remaining people as drag queens

I have Socialisa Sanders, Ben Ghazi and Anita Wall (Bernie, Queen and Trump). I'm doing blurbs on each of them.....Here's a sample of what I've got for Bernie so far.

Socialisa has been performing for decades, but only recently has anyone on the national stage paid any attention. Socialisa is huge on college campuses, and students love hearing her perform the same damn song over, and over and over and over…

While she’s had some success in the smaller challenges, her look has never been on point during the mainstage. When pressed on this, Socialisa accused RuPaul and Michelle Visage of FRAUD! CORRUPTION! and of being in the pocket of Big Makeup.

When asked why she should be America’s Next Drag President, Socialisa had this to say:

Look, it’s a yuge deal for me. I believe it’s distasteful that we live in the only nation on earth in which makeup is not a fundamental human right. We have the millionaires and the billionaires who can afford two, three or even four pair of lashes. Not me. I use cat hair I got off the one gown I actually own. (this went on for several hours)….and when I do get tips, I don’t take them from special interests like the bears, the otters or the leather community. I take them from everyday people. Twenty-seven cents at a time.
 

Fuchsdh

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Libertarianism seems like a decent concept in the "leave people the hell alone when at all possible" way, but the whole "I ignore the fact my actions can have repercussions on others in favor of a black and white worldview" bit sours me.

But they're never going to be a real political force. Even Republicans want big government, they just want it bigger in different ways than Democrats.
 
"Who will build the roads?"

"In the future we will have jet packs." -Austin Petersen, Libertarian Presidential Candidate



Wrong, they want no government, not even at the state level, and have everything privatized.

How I see things are talked about from libertarians mainly refer to the federal government, very little I see talk about state governments. Wanting no government is anarchist. Libertarians aren't really a cohesive group anyway and I don't know what the fuck they really want as a group . Right now it is a basically a hodgepodge of palo-conservativism, free market thinking, anti-establishment, modern liberalism, pro-corporate, pro-states, pro-capitalism, classic liberalism, neoliberalism, etc In actuality, I feel a libertarian president would just deregulate some things and yes try to privatize many things; dismantling the government completely would be committing suicide.
 
Libertarianism seems like a decent concept in the "leave people the hell alone when at all possible" way, but the whole "I ignore the fact my actions can have repercussions on others in favor of a black and white worldview" bit sours me.

But they're never going to be a real political force. Even Republicans want big government, they just want it bigger in different ways than Democrats.

It's a political philosophy that would be great for a small island nation (as many of them are), but it can never work for massive countries. It always leads to the question, "What if someone is dying in the street for X reason?" and the libertarian answer has to be, "Sucks, breh"
 
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