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PoliGAF 2016 |OT6| Delete your accounts

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sphagnum

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Teggy said:
So libertarians don't believe in taxes? Without taxes you have no govt. So they don't believe in government? Isn't that just anarchy? Or do they watch Robocop and think, OCP, that's a great idea!
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Libertarians (propertarians, really) believe in extremely limited government that basically exists to prevent a monarch/dictator from having state power, hence why they are uber-capitalists. The state defends individual liberty but most especially property rights, and that's about it.

It doesn't actually make sense in a real world scenario, but it makes sense as a development out of the liberalism espoused during the late 18th century as a reaction to monarchism.

The really uber-uber-capitalist ones refer to themselves as anarcho-capitalists because they don't want the state to get in the way of their property rights at all. Those are the "taxation is theft!" people.
 
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User 463088

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Would anyone else want or be willing to take the June primary thread? If not, I'll do it, but I just realized that if I don't do it tonight it's not going to get done....If not, I'll keep it but if someone else wants to or could take it, I'd owe you one.
 
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mo60

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For the post GE poligaf thread the title should be it's time to party like it's 1992. Another suggestion should be something like the clnton's are back in power.
 
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blackw0lf

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Elizabeth Warren absolutely slammed Trump

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/25/11767148/watch-elizabeth-warren-take-down-donald-trump-in-10-min

...on Tuesday, speaking at the Center for Popular Democracy, Warren stepped away from the 140-character platform and made her point very clear: Trump is "a small insecure money grubber who doesn't care who gets hurt so long as he makes money off it" and "cares about no one but himself."
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Some more quotes

Sometimes Trump claims he is tough on Wall Street, but now he is singing a very different song, he is saying that the new Dodd-Frank regulations, and I'm going to quote here, 'made it impossible for bankers to function' and he will put out a new plan soon that will be close to dismantling it.

Donald Trump is worried about helping poor little Wall Street. Let me find the world's smallest violin to play a sad sad song.

Can Donald Trump even name three things about Dodd-Frank? Someone should ask....

The rest of us were horrified by what happened in the 2008 financial crisis, by what happened to millions of families that were forced out of their homes.

But Donald Trump was drooling at the idea of a housing melt down because it meant he could buy more property on the cheap. What kind of a man does that? What kind of a man roots for people to get thrown out of their house? What kind of a man roots for people to get thrown out of their jobs? To root for people to lose their pensions?

What kind of man does that? I will tell you exactly the kind of man. It is a man that cares about no one but himself.

What kind of a man does that? A man that will never be the president of the United States....

For all we know he could be paying zero taxes today. And he is proud of it. Two weeks ago he was more than happy to dodge taxes because he doesn't want to throw his money, quote, 'down the drain.'

Donald Trump likes being a billionaire but he doesn't think that the rules that apply to everyone else, should apply to him. But let's be clear Donald Trump didn't get rich on his own.

His businesses rely on roads and bridges paid for by the rest of us. His businesses rely on workers that are educated by the rest of us. They rely on police and firefighters who protect the rest of us and are supported by the rest of us. Donald Trump and his businesses are protected by a world-class military that defends us abroad and keeps us safe at home and the rest of us pay to support.

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Donald Trump thinks that supporting them is throwing money down the drain. Then I say we throw Donald Trump down the drain.
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Watch the video, it's beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Mrfu4yE-w
 
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NYCmetsfan

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Why do so many people on twitter read one politico story with anonymous sources and freak out, snark or actually take it seriously.

I talking about the 'poor Donald' story
 
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Ether_Snake

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sphagnum said:
Libertarians (propertarians, really) believe in extremely limited government that basically exists to prevent a monarch/dictator from having state power, hence why they are uber-capitalists. The state defends individual liberty but most especially property rights, and that's about it.

It doesn't actually make sense in a real world scenario, but it makes sense as a development out of the liberalism espoused during the late 18th century as a reaction to monarchism.

The really uber-uber-capitalist ones refer to themselves as anarcho-capitalists because they don't want the state to get in the way of their property rights at all. Those are the "taxation is theft!" people.
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Pretty much all of them on C-Span said taxation is theft.

People need to see it for what it is, every time I hear people say "oh they just want less government" I see people undermining the danger of their ideas.
 
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ampere

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itschris said:
Hehe:

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This is great

Needs labels though. Are the people holding the letters voters? I don't understand because it's not labeled

adam387 said:
Would anyone else want or be willing to take the June primary thread? If not, I'll do it, but I just realized that if I don't do it tonight it's not going to get done....If not, I'll keep it but if someone else wants to or could take it, I'd owe you one.
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When is it supposed to be posted, any time before June 7th?
 
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NihonTiger90

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I have a liberal trans friend who supports Sanders and has decided, should Clinton win the nomination, she will vote Trump because fuck it, Bernie not willing proves everything is rigged and corrupt. Might as well burn the whole thing down!
 
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User 463088

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ampere said:
This is great

Needs labels though. Are the people holding the letters voters? I don't understand because it's not labeled



When is it supposed to be posted, any time before June 7th?
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Before June 4th. I bit off more than I could chew at work and the class I'm teaching.
 
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NeoXChaos

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ampere said:
This is great

Needs labels though. Are the people holding the letters voters? I don't understand because it's not labeled



When is it supposed to be posted, any time before June 7th?
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Next Saturday and Sunday when Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico vote.

Y2Kev said:
Who is making the Queen Crowned as Nominee thread?
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I'm posting my "Hillary Clinches Nomination" Thread June 7th with my poll.

*HillaryGAF will be wearing Hillary avatars on June 7th and convention week to celebrate our Queen milestone.
 
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ampere

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adam387 said:
Before June 4th. I bit off more than I could chew at work and the class I'm teaching.
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OK, well I could do the June thread if you'd like! No promises it'll be as amazing as the Civ or Papers Please threads... but I can do something :p

NeoXChaos said:
Next Saturday and Sunday when Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico vote. I'm posting my "Hillary Clinches Nomination" Thread June 7th with my poll.

*HillaryGAF will be wearing Hillary avatars on June 7th and convention week to celebrate our Queen milestone.
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Noted, I'll have to make a Hillary version of my avatar then
 
i_am_ben

i_am_ben

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NeoXChaos said:
Next Saturday and Sunday when Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico vote.



I'm posting my "Hillary Clinches Nomination" Thread June 7th with my poll.

*HillaryGAF will be wearing Hillary avatars on June 7th and convention week to celebrate our Queen milestone.
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"Hillary Clinches Nomination - Let us eat cake"
 
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User 463088

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ampere said:
OK, well I could do the June thread if you'd like! No promises it'll be as amazing as the Civ or Papers Please threads... but I can do something :p



Noted, I'll have to make a Hillary version of my avatar then
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Thank you! You're a life saver. Seriously. :)

Neo? You catch that. :)
 
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Maengun1

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johnsmith said:
That Gordon Gekko-looking Trump-supporting motherfucker on Real Time really was terrible. Everybody else was fine.
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When panel discussions on Real Time are good, they can be REALLY good, and I generally appreciate that Maher tries to get a range of opinions on the panel, but I can't watch when he has outright trolls like that dude on. It's just an hour of him saying crazy shit, the others being like "WHAT?!?!" and the crowd booing.
 
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Paskil

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Looks like Gary Motherfucking Johnson isn't wearing a flag pin in that debate picture. I'm getting angry, you won't like me when I'm angry...
 
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johnsmith

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Glenn Greenwald continues to be a piece of shit


Glenn Greenwald – Verified account ‏@ggreenwald

I can't wait for Clinton die-hards to start applying this new "you-can't-criticize-anyone-gay" standard.
 
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whyamihere

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johnsmith said:
Glenn Greenwald continues to be a piece of shit


Glenn Greenwald – Verified account ‏@ggreenwald

I can't wait for Clinton die-hards to start applying this new "you-can't-criticize-anyone-gay" standard.
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Never Forget.

http://www.salon.com/2010/01/22/citizens_united/

What the Supreme Court got right [about Citizens United]

It's best for the government to stay out of the business of restricting political advocacy

GLENN GREENWALD
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Chichikov

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Some people are mad that college students that compare Israel to Nazi Germany are getting reprimanded and they say it isn't horrific racism, just anti-Zionism.

I mean, you're only getting at one thing when you compare Israel to Nazi Germany and "fascism" in general, come on, dumbfucks, grow a brain.
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I don't know what those students said, but people have drawn comparisons between Israel and Nazi Germany that are not motivated by racism. Most famously by Yeshayahu Leibowitz, who may have been many things, but a racist and an antisemite was not one of them. I wouldn't call it super mainstream, but people in the Israeli left do tend to make that comparison from time to time.

Personally I'm not a huge fan of going that route. Academically it's fine, I think it's valuable to try to learn from what is probably the darkest chapter of human history, but as a part of a political discourse once you bring it up the focus will immediately be on the comparison instead of the issue you were trying to talk about. This was exactly the case with Leiboowitz, who made some very strong points but everything anyone ever talked about is the fact that he used the term judeo-nazis.
 
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excelsiorlef

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NeoXChaos said:
Next Saturday and Sunday when Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico vote.



I'm posting my "Hillary Clinches Nomination" Thread June 7th with my poll.

*HillaryGAF will be wearing Hillary avatars on June 7th and convention week to celebrate our Queen milestone.
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I made mine early, not the best compression but here's what it looks like larger.

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Pretty pleased XD
 
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FiggyCal

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Apparently Gary Johnson was a real asshole as governor. What a surprise.

Edit: just be sure to remind everyone else how much better you are than Reddit's Bernie supporters, guys.
 
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VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
I got approached at the supermarket by a lady asking me if I was a registered Democrat and if I was going to participate in the caucus. You have my sword Hillary.

Edit: virgin islands here
 
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Nazgul_Hunter

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mo60

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I'm going to probably change my avy to a bunny with a crown when hilary wins the nomination or maybe I will save that for election night when she's declared the winner.
 
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pigeon

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jack_package_200 said:
Lawyers Representing Church That Lost $2 Million on Jane Sanders Land Deal Serve Bernie Sanders With Demand Letter to Release All Documents Related to His Involvement in Loan Application

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/vpr/files/201605/toensing-sanders-letter-20160525.pdf

Oh boy
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Wow, this letter is not screwing around. It goes after Bernie right where he lives -- it's accusing him of taking advantage of his political office, cheating the people of Vermont (who ultimately lose out in the bankruptcy), getting rich while bankrupting the company his wife was working for, and deliberately concealing evidence to that effect in his tax returns. To top it off it implies he worked to exempt Congress from FOIA so that he could get away with it and that he'd be willing to destroy evidence to continue doing so!

This is definitely the oppo dump kicking into high gear.
 
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Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Paskil said:
I'm sure they'll be releasing past year taxes any day now.
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Shit, perhaps THAT is the reason why they have been coy about them.

Edit: Well, apparently the letter already covers that. Wow.

I'd say post a new thread about it, but there are already 2 active threads about Sanders. I'll let a mod decide.
 
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shinra-bansho

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pigeon said:
This is definitely the oppo dump kicking into high gear.
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Eh. There's really no point in either the Clinton campaign or RNC doing anything to him at this stage. I'm not sure if the implication is then that this is a salvo from the DNC or something basically saying we can play too?

But it could just be a disgruntled person in your very litigious country seeing an opportunity.

And you can post a new thread for legitimate new news, but if it turns to shit, well it'll get locked.
 
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