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Hazmat

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It's not like that. Without Cali the electoral vote for Democrats is impossible. You guys pay for the feast every four years but it's a thankless task.

Well, Obama could have won without California in both 2008 and 2012. We'll probably need it this time, but I prefer not to let California get an even bigger head than it already has.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Caucuses routinely have lower turnout than primaries, due entirely to how they're run. When Washington state made the switch they noted that turnout was down due to it.
 
So business as usual, no one actually cares about us here in California and expect us to just walk into a done deal. We're the big guy at the invited last to the party everyone ignores but calls us their best friend when asked anytime before or after.

The rest of the country looked at Trumps Cinco de Mayo tweet, laughed but also thought, "that looks like a good taco bowl"

We arrive at the party noses up!
 
You all ready for Clinton to get indicted?

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I know I'm preaching to the choir and we all know Seth is terrible, but this article is classic Seth. The whole thing rests on an underlying assumption about what superdelegates should do that we're just supposed to accept, combined with the usual nonsense about Bernie being demonstrably a stronger candidate (i.e., those numbers wouldn't change after GOP attacks). Beyond that is the statement amount Hillary being poised to lose future contests with no support, and of course the subtle dig at the South. I'm really disappointed he didn't try to spin Kentucky as a win for Bernie though.
 

ampere

Member
You all ready for Clinton to get indicted?

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While I think Biden would be fine, and obviously orders of magnitude better than Trump, I feel like the Democratic Party in general would be in such disarray if Hillary did get indicted. Then the Bernie bros would also have an aneurysm when the nomination is "stolen" and given to Biden
 
California is like that really hot guy on Grindr who gets hurt if you don't tell him how amazing he is...Of course he's amazing. But, you're totally broke right now, so you're only complimenting him in case he'll buy you a bottle of Pear Vodka before you get paid tomorrow because today is your Friday, and it's time to get rekt because this week has totally sucked and also like such as, FRAUD.
 

studyguy

Member
Well, Obama could have won without California in both 2008 and 2012. We'll probably need it this time, but I prefer not to let California get an even bigger head than it already has.

Lol like mentioned before, we're basically the last guy in the door expected to pick up the tab and clean house. Yeah we know the deal.

Also apparently we're pushed so far back due to the sheer costs associated with doing this shit early. Our state is happy to rest on its laurels till the counties is done getting its jollies off. Apparently they're looking at moving back to March for primaries in the future but who knows. Apparently we're too scary to be let in the door early on, not our fault we swing a big stick when we actually join the fray early.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
While I think Biden would be fine, and obviously orders of magnitude better than Trump, I feel like the Democratic Party in general would be in such disarray if Hillary did get indicted. Then the Bernie bros would also have an aneurysm when the nomination is "stolen" and given to Biden

Honestly, I doubt most of them would be bothered with Biden getting it. The hardcore guys, sure, but the rest? They'd be cool with it.
 
Honestly, I doubt most of them would be bothered with Biden getting it. The hardcore guys, sure, but the rest? They'd be cool with it.

Ugh, I have no idea how that would turn out. Really. Totally not going to happen anyway, but there is no good solution there because Bernie is just....no. No. No way.

I haven't listened to it yet, but last week's Chuck Todd was amazing

This is the only time in my life I've heard the words "amazing" and "Chuck Todd" n the same sentence without the word "isn't" in the mix.
 
"If you assume that Bernie would win by the margin that won by only due to the fact that no one goes to Caucuses and then you assumed everyone voted and...."

Quality argument.
 

HylianTom

Banned
California is the anchor on our relay team. They're our strongest runner, our biggest payload. They get us past the finish line. I thank Nayru for California every time.. its transition from swing state to solid blue has been fast and remarkable.
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
I think the calculation is that most people are more apt to agree with the general statement that men should use the men's restroom and women should use the women's restroom. So far the polling shows there's somewhat of a split on this issue. I think the error on their part is that they've bullied on this issue.

There's a saying that you can discriminate but you can't be a jerk about it. This applies to gay marriage, where a person might not have ill feelings towards say...a friend who doesn't support gay marriage on religious grounds and outside of that is cordial to gay people. Or 40 years ago the example would be an older white person who is cordial to black people but doesn't support interracial marriage. That's where the "but I have [insert whatever] friends" defense comes from. Most people don't want to be perceived as bigoted, even when they are bigoted. Republicans taking so much glee in denigrating trans people and fighting Obama over this is going to backfire and lead to people supporting trans rights just to avoid being associated with what they perceive as bigoted behavior.
Yep. HB2 and other bullshit like it is just gonna end up making trans rights a big part of the DNC's focus this year. The fed. govt's already outright said "We'll always be on your side" which was unthinkable just four years ago.
 
O.k. this primary election just got a little weird, and I'm talking George Orwell's 1984 level weird!

So, when a guy (Martin Bishop) shared a Sane Progressive (Debbie Lusignan) YT video on Facebook, who's been doing a sterling job highlighting the FRAUD (capitals all but mandatory now in PoliGAF ;) ) going on in the 2016 Democratic Primary election, he was asked if he wanted to take part in a Zuckerberg sanctioned survey (o.k. I don't know that for a fact, although he has "Liked" several of Hillary's posts, but it's at least an "Official" Facebook survey).

You be the judge, but what is raising some eyebrows here is that the survey appears to be in direct response to the Sane Progressive video posted (fairly benign in my book), and taken as a whole, it does appear to be trying to psychologically profile the poster, and even before Debbie said it in her video, I too was thinking of Orwell's 1984 and the KGB era of Russia!

I used trusty MS Paint to stitch together the whole survey into one Jpeg, omitting "Continue" buttons between the twenty parts of the survey (signified by vertical white space), and changed the orientation of some of the radio buttons from vertical to horizontal, to reduce the image height. The slight blurriness of the text can't be helped as it's due to the source 720p video.

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I take solace in knowing that I post this at a time when my comrades are up to full strength, so we will hopefully have a balanced discussion :).
 

Hazmat

Member
Lol like mentioned before, we're basically the last guy in the door expected to pick up the tab and clean house. Yeah we know the deal.

Also apparently we're pushed so far back due to the sheer costs associated with doing this shit early. Our state is happy to rest on its laurels till the counties is done getting its jollies off. Apparently they're looking at moving back to March for primaries in the future but who knows. Apparently we're too scary to be let in the door early on, not our fault we swing a big stick when we actually join the fray early.

I'd argue that this year California is the guy that's important but annoyingly late to the party. Everyone else is there standing around with nothing to do because someone is pitching a fit that the music can't start until evvvvvverybody shows up.
 

studyguy

Member
I'd argue that this year California is the guy that's important but annoyingly late to the party. Everyone else is there standing around with nothing to do because someone is pitching a fit that the music can't start until evvvvvverybody shows up.

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You guys need to throw better parties.
But please let the flattery continue.
 
I thought he brought up good points about access and choice in medium when it comes to politicians. :/

Haha, no worries. I'm just messing. I don't like him at all. Ruined Meet the Press for me. I just don't like him. It's a personal thing. Same reason I didn't like Nancy Sniderman on NBC/MSNBC. I just loathe her for no logical reason.
 

Teggy

Member
Man, that Shaun King tweet storm - first he starts off with a totally bogus argument that caucus results are not included in the popular vote count and then argues that super delegates should all switch to Bernie because polls. Oh also the Superdelegates are frauds because many of them decided who they were voting for before the primaries. Even though they are allowed to vote for whoever they want and can change their mind at any time much like many did in 2008.

Surprisingly he is actually getting more pushback than support on these tweets.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Man, that Shaun King tweet storm - first he starts off with a totally bogus argument that caucus results are not included in the popular vote count and then argues that super delegates should all switch to Bernie because polls. Oh also the Superdelegates are frauds because many of them decided who they were voting for before the primaries. Even though they are allowed to vote for whoever they want and can change their mind at any time much like many did in 2008.

Surprisingly he is actually getting more pushback than support on these tweets.

A lot of people turned on Bernie after the shitshow that was Nevada. His honeymoon finally ended is all.
 

Zornack

Member
People upset that supers show support before primaries make me so mad. They're state and party officials! What you're asking for is that a senator can't tell their constituents who they support before the primary has taken place.
 

studyguy

Member
People upset that supers show support before primaries make me so mad. They're state and party officials! What you're asking for is that a senator can't tell their constituents who they support before the primary has taken place.

But have you considered FRAUD?
 
People upset that supers show support before primaries make me so mad. They're state and party officials! What you're asking for is that a senator can't tell their constituents who they support before the primary has taken place.

See, the thing is, Bernie could have made an argument about SuperDelegates if he'd wanted to. Not that they should go away, but I think he probably could have gotten a concession that SuperDelegates aren't allowed to declare until after their state votes. (It's stupid, and I don't agree with it, but it's an argument that could have been made.)

Now, though, his campaign has been throwing every bit of shit out about Supers that you can think of. They have no cognizant argument on this issue anymore.
 

hawk2025

Member
Daniel B·;204125148 said:
O.k. this primary election just got a little weird, and I'm talking George Orwell's 1984 level weird!

So, when a guy (Martin Bishop) shared a Sane Progressive (Debbie Lusignan) YT video on Facebook, who's been doing a sterling job highlighting the FRAUD (capitals all but mandatory now in PoliGAF ;) ) going on in the 2016 Democratic Primary election, he was asked if he wanted to take part in a Zuckerberg sanctioned survey (o.k. I don't know that for a fact, although he has "Liked" several of Hillary's posts, but it's at least an "Official" Facebook survey).

You be the judge, but what is raising some eyebrows here is that the survey appears to be in direct response to the Sane Progressive video posted (fairly benign in my book), and taken as a whole, it does appear to be trying to psychologically profile the poster, and even before Debbie said it in her video, I too was thinking of Orwell's 1984 and the KGB era of Russia!

I used trusty MS Paint to stitch together the whole survey into one Jpeg, omitting "Continue" buttons between the twenty parts of the survey (signified by vertical white space), and changed the orientation of some of the radio buttons from vertical to horizontal, to reduce the image height. The slight blurriness of the text can't be helped as it's due to the source 720p video.

I take solace in knowing that I post this at a time when my comrades are up to full strength, so we will hopefully have a balanced discussion :).


LOL

I love you

"free speech chilling surveys"!
 

Captain Pants

Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
Granted, I am dumb. I accept that. I'm not sure how blurry pictures of a facebook survey are indicating that this election just now got weird, or how they are indicative of fraud or Orwellian surveillance.
 
Daniel B·;204125148 said:
O.k. this primary election just got a little weird, and I'm talking George Orwell's 1984 level weird!

So, when a guy (Martin Bishop) shared a Sane Progressive (Debbie Lusignan) YT video on Facebook, who's been doing a sterling job highlighting the FRAUD (capitals all but mandatory now in PoliGAF ;) ) going on in the 2016 Democratic Primary election, he was asked if he wanted to take part in a Zuckerberg sanctioned survey (o.k. I don't know that for a fact, although he has "Liked" several of Hillary's posts, but it's at least an "Official" Facebook survey).

You be the judge, but what is raising some eyebrows here is that the survey appears to be in direct response to the Sane Progressive video posted (fairly benign in my book), and taken as a whole, it does appear to be trying to psychologically profile the poster, and even before Debbie said it in her video, I too was thinking of Orwell's 1984 and the KGB era of Russia!

I used trusty MS Paint to stitch together the whole survey into one Jpeg, omitting "Continue" buttons between the twenty parts of the survey (signified by vertical white space), and changed the orientation of some of the radio buttons from vertical to horizontal, to reduce the image height. The slight blurriness of the text can't be helped as it's due to the source 720p video.

iWA1C3Y.jpg


I take solace in knowing that I post this at a time when my comrades are up to full strength, so we will hopefully have a balanced discussion :).
I can't see shit captain
 

hawk2025

Member
Granted, I am dumb. I accept that. I'm not sure how blurry pictures of a facebook survey are indicating that this election just now got weird, or how they are indicative of fraud or Orwellian surveillance.

Why did Youtube limit the video to 720P if they allow other videos to be 1080P, huh?


What is Google hiding?
 

NeoXChaos

Member
Unfortunately that win would need to be bigger than her NY win. So unless Jersey goes HAM for her, it'll probably be one of the other states that does it.

NJ puts her over. She has 1772+5(Virgin Islands)+39(Puerto Rico 60% of vote)+78(New Jersey 60% of vote)

= 1418 with supers.

NJ closes way before CA.
 
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