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Didn't one of Sander's SD's flip to Hillary like last week?\
Or this week, I can't recall.
balladofwindfishes
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Yep. I expect a few more might consider as well after NV's little mess.
shinra-bansho
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They have exercised their judgment. Some are taking a second look. And switching to Clinton.
Sad!
Sad!
benjipwns
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Your wardrobe critique of the other two candidates is problematic.
Now if you'll excuse me, sister, I'll list everyone else running for president and then stumble over my own name multiple times.
Ignatz Mouse
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Weaver.
He's not really wrong, but there has yet to be a convincing reason for them to flip to the guy who is calling them corrupt (and by proxy, corporate whores).
I guess that argument is electability, but the Good Ship Clinton still floats, despite the attempts at torpedoing from the right AND left.
1. She's still ahead of him in national polling
2. The left is still not united yet and kinda in disarray
3. Trump has barely gotten a boost from getting the nomination, but her polling numbers have fallen mostly.
I wouldn't worry about him winning yet. I bet you the same thing that happened in the recent Canadian federal election will happen here. That election was pretty close until late september or early october.
User 463088
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Red Steel is not the best game ever. It's the best FPS ever.
The best game ever is Kirby's Epic Yarn. And that's all I have to say about that. (My favorite fighting game is Shaq Fu, and I'm not even playing right now.)I was on my lunch and I opened YouTube and it just started playing...and then it was like "Who would I want to hit the least..." An I realized I had only myself to blame.
Now, now. Don't sell yourself short. <3 I'm totally just messing with you. You do you.
Also, fam, drink suggestions for tonight? (Today is my Friday...)
Weaver.
Is he going to stand by this when Hillary wins NJ and California? Because what momentum will that show? Will the delegate gap have changed? Or will there just be a new excuse?
Voysa Reezun
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I wonder what those trend lines would look like after the GOP let everyone know that Bernie digs those lovely Soviet-style bread lines.
My girl recently discovered and highly recommends the Negroni. Decribed it as "a good combo of sweet and tart". I haven't had one myself yet, but based on googling, I definitely want to get one asap. And, I mean, she has excellent taste.
Edit: Oh, sorry Adam. She does have excellent taste. So you'll probably hate it. <3
User 463088
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That actually sounds pretty good...I'd have to go to the liquor store though.
I may have to go with Smirnoff, melon vodka, Sunny-D and ginger ale or tequila and regret. I'll let ya'll know
User 85168
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That actually sounds pretty good...I'd have to go to the liquor store though.
I may have to go with Smirnoff, melon vodka, Sunny-D and ginger ale or tequila and regret. I'll let ya'll know
What the heck am I reading here
FloydtheFathead
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Dubbedinenglish
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I may have to go with Smirnoff, melon vodka, Sunny-D and ginger ale or tequila and regret. I'll let ya'll know
We need to pray for you Adam, somethin fierce.
That actually sounds pretty good...I'd have to go to the liquor store though.
I may have to go with Smirnoff, melon vodka, Sunny-D and ginger ale or tequila and regret. I'll let ya'll know
Try left hand stout if you haven't. Like delicious alcoholic chocolate milk.
Now that's a ringing recommendation if I ever heard one.
Captain Pants
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Drinking on the job today.
Normally I don't do stouts outside of Winter, but it seemed right today.
Seriously, it's great. A craft bar I go to has it on rotation. I wish they had it standard but the whole lineup changes every few weeks.
Black Mamba
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Weaver.
Notice how Weaver explicitly mentioned the delegate gap and momentum.
IMO, he's signaling that if Bernie wins Cali and the majority of Jun 7th delegates, they will make their case.
But if they lose Cali and the majority, then they'll tone down.
Daniel B·;204141111 said:Holy shit!
As I showed this thread yesterday, the polls in May and June are LESS reliable that the ones in March in terms of GE polling.
This is good news for Hillary and bad news for Bernie.
I personally vouch for this bad boy:
Probably the best Scotch Ale I've ever had. Drinking them makes me happy from beginning to end...and might temporarily give me psychic powers, but that's neither here nor there. Maybe I'll get one tonight on my way home.
I just didn't recommend it to Adam because I didn't think he'd be into it somehow. Just a gut feeling.
aspiegamer
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So, via some math, if you work out when polls close Sanders will probably need 81-82% of the remaining delegates by the time we even get to counting in California. So that 68% number for a California target is in and of itself misleading.
But hey, media narrative!
Vermouth is a hideous substance.
But hey, media narrative!
Vermouth is a hideous substance.
You see how there are so many fewer dots on the Sanders graph? That's because most polling organizations consider his chance of getting the nomination to be so insignificant that it's not worth 10 seconds of labor from their phone operators to ask the question. Think about that for a moment.Daniel B·;204141111 said:
User 463088
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I mean, that's three different drinks their mane. Smirnoff (pineapple or original!), then melon vodka mixed with Sunny D and GInger Ale...which I did as a joke on the last chat we had, but was surprisingly good. I also did vodka and this ultra caffeinated flavored water. Which...meh. 2/10. And then I have some tequila I could probably go with if I;m running low on vodka.
Yaaass gawd.
I've heard of that. It's not super beery is it?
I love chocolate milk and peanut butter vodka. It's like a liquid Reese's Cup. Delicious.
Also I just got another call from Bernie asking me to vote in NJ. WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS!?
Black Mamba
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These are my thoughts as well:
https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki
TL;DR: Stop diablosing about Bernie.
New NYT Poll has Hillary +6 on Trump. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll.html?smid=tw-share
I can't quote the NYT anymore for some reason. Annoying.
Again, Mid-May polls suck. So it doesn't matter.
https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki
TL;DR: Stop diablosing about Bernie.
New NYT Poll has Hillary +6 on Trump. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll.html?smid=tw-share
I can't quote the NYT anymore for some reason. Annoying.
Again, Mid-May polls suck. So it doesn't matter.
balladofwindfishes
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Notice how Weaver explicitly mentioned the delegate gap and momentum.
IMO, he's signaling that if Bernie wins Cali and the majority of Jun 7th delegates, they will make their case.
But if they lose Cali and the majority, then they'll tone down.
As I showed this thread yesterday, the polls in May and June are LESS reliable that the ones in March in terms of GE polling.
This is good news for Hillary and bad news for Bernie.
Wow, this is interesting. I guess it's because of the natural bumps candidates get as the process winds down, which messes up polls.
I personally vouch for this bad boy:
Probably the best Scotch Ale I've ever had. Drinking them makes me happy from beginning to end...and might temporarily give me psychic powers, but that's neither here nor there. Maybe I'll get one tonight on my way home.
I just didn't recommend it to Adam because I didn't think he'd be into it somehow. Just a gut feeling.
Thats good stuff too. I usually tend toward the darker end of the spectrum, IPAs don't really do it for me.
Black Mamba
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I think it's a combo of the bumps when one party gets a presumptive nominee and then when the other party is still duking it out and the losing side is all emotional and refusing to give in.
I also don't think many people get into GE mode until mid-summer. A lot of people just don't care, yet.
NYCmetsfan
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Dude should go back to his comic book store
Weaver.
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I also think we're going to see a collective "awakening" sometime in October when the 1st debate happens. When actual policy questions come up, and Hillary just schools Trump, I think the idea of a Trump presidency will become real to a lot of people. For a lto of us, it's real because we're diablosing over Bernie still being in here. The General public just doesn't care yet. When they ask Hillary and Trump to answer a questiona bout nuclear arms, and Hillary, you know, doesn't say nuke Europe....people are going to be a bit more aware, I think.
It's silky smooth and creamy. Just make sure you drink it cold, better that way.
NYCmetsfan
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Nah. Hard liquor or beer (anything but IPAs). Im a Pilsener guy. If I want a beer that's a meal I'd have a meal
NihonTiger90
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Slate's political podcast's title this week was "I Threw A Chair In Reno Just To Watch It Fly".
I feel like we missed an opportunity.
I feel like we missed an opportunity.
Politifact rating: mostly false.
User 463088
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I love how you all tell me to drink things cold because my taste level is so questionable ya'll just can't be sure.
Black Mamba
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Here are the more interesting bits from the NYT poll:
8 in 10 Dems view the party's future optimistically. 8 in 10 think Hillary will unite it.
Over 4 in 10 GOPers view it pessimistically. Only 2 in 3 see the party uniting.
only 27% see Trump having the right temperament to be Pres, compared to 48% Hillary.
Trump among woman favorability: 20 to 60. OUCH. SAD!
Among non-white it's 12 to 68. WOW!
14-65 among 18-29! Double SAD!
Hillary's numbers are almost reversed for how men view her which sucks. White people also don't like Hillary. 23 favorable to 55 not. Ugh.
Obama up to 50% approval, however.
8 in 10 Dems view the party's future optimistically. 8 in 10 think Hillary will unite it.
Over 4 in 10 GOPers view it pessimistically. Only 2 in 3 see the party uniting.
only 27% see Trump having the right temperament to be Pres, compared to 48% Hillary.
Trump among woman favorability: 20 to 60. OUCH. SAD!
Among non-white it's 12 to 68. WOW!
14-65 among 18-29! Double SAD!
Hillary's numbers are almost reversed for how men view her which sucks. White people also don't like Hillary. 23 favorable to 55 not. Ugh.
Obama up to 50% approval, however.
Black Mamba
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Yes, I think there's going to be a "wait a minute, what the fuck are we doing here? Trump? uh...lolz."
It's going to happen sometime in Sept or October as you said. I mean, the voting public is stupid but not that fucking stupid. I think.
The thing that gives me hope is that she's generally up in the polls against Trump (one or two polls notwithstanding) and this is before the party comes together, in the thick of the primary fight, before the ad barrage, etc. So even if there is a contingent of Bernie supporters that simply will not vote Hillary, they are almost priced in at this point.
I hope.
shinra-bansho
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White men, you say? Quelle surprise?!
These are my thoughts as well:
https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki
TL;DR: Stop diablosing about Bernie.
New NYT Poll has Hillary +6 on Trump. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll.html?smid=tw-share
I can't quote the NYT anymore for some reason. Annoying.
Again, Mid-May polls suck. So it doesn't matter.
how in the world is Sanders' campaign telegraphing a swift withdrawal after the primaries? All their rhetoric is about how superdelegates don't vote until the convention so Hillary can't win until then
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