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PoliGAF 2016 |OT6| Delete your accounts

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Spoiled Milk

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So I was listening to Slick Willy speak and he was talking about how Hillary was planning on starting a federal program that funnels money into communities with an unemployment rate much higher than the national average or a long term poverty rate higher than the national average. Wow! That's a really great idea! Does Sanders even have a plan like that?
 
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Armaros

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hawk2025 said:
Weak-ass conjecture is the controversy, while hundreds of millions was spent on global warming and fighting poverty, with receipts.

Bring it on. The Clinton Foundation is great and needs more attention.
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Doesn't stop them from trying, crazy Bernie folks also tried to create a fuss with it early in the primary.
 
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Crocodile

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Crab said:
Being called a liar and a flip-flopper in the first month of a four year presidency when Sanders will be more or less forgotten by the end of it is pretty costless, to be honest. I mean, she could just flat out say no, too - as I've said before, it's a giant game of bluff.
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I agree in the grand scheme of things its not a big deal (unless Clinton actually lets Sanders have significant input into her cabinet which would reflect poorly on Clinton I feel). It's just as a person who already has a rep as a flip-flopper, don't think it behooves her to do something that would encourage that sentiment. It seems like an unenforced (if minor I still agree) error. Though I guess Clinton isn't a stranger to those I guess :p

Crab said:
Yup. Nevertheless, this thread will be filled with people simultaneously calling for party unity (particularly if the convention gets antsy) while nevertheless calling Sanders an asshat and telling his supporters to fuck off.

C'est la vie.
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If someone says or does something dumb, Clinton or Sanders, they deserve to be called out on it. Sanders is consistently awful at messaging and his rhetoric is consistently frustrating - its been getting worse as he has fallen behind. Just because I want a peaceful and amicable resolution to this primary doesn't mean I'm going to turn a blind eye when I see any campaign or supporters of said campaign do or say dumb stuff. I want Sanders to land the plane well. I want Sanders supporters (who haven't already) to understand we are on the same side and want the same things. But if stuff stinks, it stinks.
 
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excelsiorlef

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Kristoffer said:
So I was listening to Slick Willy speak and he was talking about how Hillary was planning on starting a federal program that funnels money into communities with an unemployment rate much higher than the national average or a long term poverty rate higher than the national average. Wow! That's a really great idea! Does Sanders even have a plan like that?
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That's freaking awesome

Better question should be does Sanders even have a plan?
 
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hawk2025

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Armaros said:
Doesn't stop them from trying, crazy Bernie's also tried to create a fuss with it early in the primary.
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Oh, I know, they will certainly try!

I may be wrong, but I just feel like anything that's thrown at the Clinton Foundation can be immediately shot back with the fuckton of good it's done and its transparent accounts.

The WSJ article and everything else that has been thrown at it is giant ball of nothing.
 
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Emarv

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Kristoffer said:
So I was listening to Slick Willy speak and he was talking about how Hillary was planning on starting a federal program that funnels money into communities with an unemployment rate much higher than the national average or a long term poverty rate higher than the national average. Wow! That's a really great idea! Does Sanders even have a plan like that?
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What does that have to do with banks, tho?

jk jk
 
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shem935

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Macho Madness said:
Rachel Maddow reporting Trump has no staff or offices in Ohio and Florida.
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What? Two rallies right before they vote, that's always worked before! Can't stump the Trump!

Edit: Speaking of the Clinton foundation now Megan Kelly is talking about the Clinton foundation and some governor and how this could bring her more legal trouble.
 
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ampere

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Macho Madness said:
Rachel Maddow reporting Trump has no staff or offices in Ohio and Florida.
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Remember

In the interview, Trump outlined a general election campaign that banks heavily on his personal appeal and trademark rallies while spurning the kind of sophisticated data operation that was a centerpiece of Barack Obama's winning White House runs.
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He's like those sports commentators who say "analytics are dumb and for nerds numbers are stupid"

He doesn't believe in preparing well
 
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hawk2025

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I genuinely think bringing up the Clinton Foundation can only backfire as people actually learn that it even exists and what it does in the first place.


Am I crazy here?
 
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Wilsongt

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Effect said:
Good. The time for the debates in a primary have long since past. There is no point in them. Hell there was no point in the last debate.
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Yeah but she called out Obama for the same thing! She totally knows she'll lose in a debate against the Esteemed Senator Sanders.
 
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excelsiorlef

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hawk2025 said:
I genuinely think bringing up the Clinton Foundation can only backfire as people actually learn that it even exists and what it does in the first place.


Am I crazy here?
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Depends. If the media covers it properly absolutely, if the media covers it like both sides deserve equal weight, a non existent scandal now gets dissected and repeated
 
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User 463088

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The beautiful thing is that if Hillary wins, she's going to do it by putting her nose to the grind stone...doing the hard work of building infrastructure, the unsexy aspects of campaigning, and the grunt work that it takes to win. In other words, she's going to do what she's done her entire public life: get shit done. Like she said, she's a work horse not a show horse.

I fucking love it. I want her to feast on his soul. Yassss my queen. WERK YASSSS FUCK QUEEN YASSSS.
 
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Aaron Strife

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I hope Vennpai notices me

ampere said:
Remember



He's like those sports commentators who say "analytics are dumb and for nerds numbers are stupid"

He doesn't believe in preparing well
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Man the general election is going to be like a big meaty dick being slapped in his face.

He'll be able to turn out the fucking gremlins who gave him his primary wins because they were always going to vote, but no one is going to give a shit. Meanwhile every single woman, minority and (when Bernie and Barack give her their official endorsements) millennial is going to be hounded about voting every single day. Many who actually will!

And it makes me wonder what compels people to think he can win. Especially when they say "he's unpredictable, who knows what might happen!" as if he's this burning sphere of chaos that consumes the universe around him. His usual antics haven't endeared him to the general public yet, just to some Republicans. If anything this is quite predictable.
 
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Effect

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whyamihere said:
I get it, but I also think it's not a good GE strategy.
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He's not really thinking that far ahead. I can't believe that he is. He thinks and acts in the moment. To get attention like said. He wants Hillary and team to bite back on his terms. The worse thing she can do is get into a back and forth. That's what he wants I think and he's tossing everything he think he can to get a reaction. The problem is by him doing this so early it allows her to prepare for when he tries it during a debate.
 
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Spoiled Milk

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My mom's not a citizen, but if she were, she'd be voting for Trump. She knows he's going to do what he says he's going to do and he's been a very successful businessman.

I love my mom!
 
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Aaron Strife

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Effect said:
He's not really thinking that far ahead. I can't believe that he is. He thinks and acts in the moment. That's what it appears.
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He's actually a genius though because he managed to convince Republican voters (the smartest, most politically aware group on the planet) to vote for him after he called Rosie O'Donnell fat.

He's going to pivot so hard left your head will spin! Even Bernie Sanders will go "Whoa, whoa, whoa, this guy's a little much for me." Also he's totally lying about his wall with Mexico and Muslim ban. Obviously. But don't trust Hillary!
 
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Effect

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Kristoffer said:
My mom's not a citizen, but if she were, she'd be voting for Trump. She knows he's going to do what he says he's going to do and he's been a very successful businessman.

I love my mom!
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I can't wait for Hillary's team to hit him in regard to this. That's like an exposed nerve for him I believe.
 
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User 463088

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Effect said:
I can't wait for Hillary's team to hit him in regard to this. That's like an exposed nerve for him I believe.
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Exactly. And the beautiful thing if she hits him with his bankruptcy? His defense is that he's never filed bankruptcy. You can turn that back against him so damn easily at a debate

Hillary: Mr. Trump claims to be a great business mind, but he's filed bankruptcy four times.

Trump: NO! NO! I've never filed bankruptcy--my businesses have taken advantage of the rules.

Hillary: You know, Mr. Trump? That's even worse. You claim to want to manage the nation's purse strings, but you'e shown you cannot manage your own company's. And when you filed bankruptcy, you weren't the one who suffered. The ones who suffered were the moms working two jobs at your casino to put food on the table. It was the college student who was waiting tables at your restaurants. It was the construction worker who was locked out of his job site because YOU were such a poor steward of your company's money. And now you want to control the American economy? No, Mr. Trump. We can't afford to file bankruptcy after you wreck the hard fought recovery we've gone through.

: drops mic :
 
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Mike M

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During one of the debates, Christie had a line about going up against Hillary and still being around to talk about it. I'd taken that as an oblique Vince Foster crack.
 
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kess

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I wish we could have Obama in these debates. It would be like Bugs Bunny vs. Elmer Fudd.

I suppose Hillary will do.
 
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Wilsongt

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NeoXChaos said:
lol
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One of the biggest bullshit terms to ever be used in science in global WARMING. It makes people lose their shit if temperatures are below average somewhere.

OMG IT WAS CHILLY THIS MORNING AND IT'S JUNE THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING FUCK YO SCIENCE
 
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ampere

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It's hard to predict what stupidity will do to a science term

Climate change is overall a better descriptor, but global warming still isn't incorrect and politicians who deny it are either intellectually dishonest or

yILVeus.jpg
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studyguy

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Wilsongt said:
One of the biggest bullshit terms to ever be used in science in global WARMING. It makes people lose their shit if temperatures are below average somewhere.

OMG IT WAS CHILLY THIS MORNING AND IT'S JUNE THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING FUCK YO SCIENCE
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Oh beat to the punch.

Cesare Borgia said:
She's a better debater than Obama tbh.
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She herself has mentioned her lack of raw charisma in the face of Obama and her husband.
She might have a vice grip on the the finer points of the political machine, but she's never gonna be dropping those one off soundbyte moments of 2008.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3DeCLPwxXI
 
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