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Chichikov

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Suikoguy said:
Actually, I take my earlier comment back. I don't see Trump winning Nevada under any circumstance.

He would need to flip WI.



This is basically Trump's only path to victory.

I guess technically he does not need to win Iowa.
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whyamihere said:
Yeah, it was. It's probably his only realistic path to victory.

But.
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This is not a path to victory, Trump never ever winning DC in a million years. It's the most solid blue electors in the nation, it's the most solid anything.
His path would require that and Iowa or maybe NH, but honestly, those states are as likely as Pennsylvania (i.e. not really likely).
 
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Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Chichikov said:
This is not a path to victory, Trump never ever winning DC in a million years. It's the most solid blue electors in the nation, it's the most solid anything.
His path would require that and Iowa or maybe NH, but honestly, those states are as likely as Pennsylvania (i.e. not really likely).
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lol, I totally did not notice DC was red on that map.
 
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SheSaidNo

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Crocodile said:
Those people are objectively wrong and their objective wrongness shouldn't be supported by those in positions of power - it should be combated.
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Trump is authentic to me, even though he's easily one of the worst candidates in history. Everything he does is similar to what I've seen on his previous television appearances, radio shows, etc, while Clinton seems more like a politician. Its not a bad thing but its not "authentic". Its why you have satire articles like http://www.theonion.com/article/hillary-clinton-appears-rally-completely-nude-bid--52516. Its easily her weak point, one Sanders has exploited the most, no need to defend her on everything.
 
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User 463088

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SheSaidNo said:
Trump is authentic to me, even though he's easily one of the worst candidates in history. Everything he does is similar to what I've seen on his previous television appearances, radio shows, etc, while Clinton seems more like a politician. Its not a bad thing but its not "authentic". Its why you have satire articles like http://www.theonion.com/article/hillary-clinton-appears-rally-completely-nude-bid--52516. Its easily her weak point, one Sanders has exploited the most, no need to defend her on everything.
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Trump is no more authentic than the gold paint he uses to garish up anything he touches. He's playing a part, and he plays it damn well. H eknew exactly what he needed to do to win the GOP nomination. He's a master of media manipulation. I don't, personally, think that's authentic.
 
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Valhelm

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shinra-bansho said:
"Authentic" Donald. El oh el.

Monsanto will reject. From memory that initial offer is just market.
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Donald Trump's image of sincerity is really mind-boggling. He's so fucking duplicitous, but I'm not sure if his supporters don't realize or simply don't care.

One friend of mine was a solid Bernie supporter who's now expecting to vote for Hillary, but likes how Trump "isn't bought and sold". This kid disagrees with Trump on pretty much all of his policies, but thinks the very fact that he doesn't accept large corporate donations is a selling point.
 
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pigeon

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SheSaidNo said:
Trump is authentic to me, even though he's easily one of the worst candidates in history. Everything he does is similar to what I've seen on his previous television appearances, radio shows, etc, while Clinton seems more like a politician. Its not a bad thing but its not "authentic". Its why you have satire articles like http://www.theonion.com/article/hillary-clinton-appears-rally-completely-nude-bid--52516. Its easily her weak point, one Sanders has exploited the most, no need to defend her on everything.
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This post is amazing.

Trump must be authentic because, in his controlled media appearances since he started running for President, he seems the same as he did in his controlled media appearances before he started running for President!

Bless your heart.
 
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SheSaidNo

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pigeon said:
This post is amazing.

Trump must be authentic because, in his controlled media appearances since he started running for President, he seems the same as he did in his controlled media appearances before he started running for President!

Bless your heart.
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I was talking about tv and radio appearances in the 90s. Do you guys really not think hillary has a authenticity problem?
 
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pigeon

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SheSaidNo said:
I was talking about the apprentice and radio appearances in the 90s
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So was I.

You understand that reality television isn't actually all candid captured footage, right?

Edit: I'm not really sure what an "authenticity" problem is, except a projection of personal bias. I think Hillary is pretty authentic, but then, I started out liking her.

But I'm confident that thinking Trump is at all authentic is just a sad character statement about yourself.
 
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Crocodile

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SheSaidNo said:
Trump is authentic to me, even though he's easily one of the worst candidates in history. Everything he does is similar to what I've seen on his previous television appearances, radio shows, etc, while Clinton seems more like a politician. Its not a bad thing but its not "authentic". Its why you have satire articles like http://www.theonion.com/article/hillary-clinton-appears-rally-completely-nude-bid--52516. Its easily her weak point, one Sanders has exploited the most, no need to defend her on everything.
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The man literally and frequently contradicts himself in the same sentence! This is a man who agrees to policies without even knowing what he's agreeing to. This is a man who screams up and down climate change is false yet just this evening on MSNBC they were going on about how he was trying to get a wall built for his Scottish golf course due to climate change concerns. Did you see the fallout from his abortion stance in the town hall before the Wisconsin primary? Did you miss last week (or was it the week before?) where he changed his stances on the minimum wage and taxes multiple times in the same day? I'm not defending Clinton here, I'm calling Trump a buffoon - nobody should be arguing otherwise.

Like c'mon son!
 
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SheSaidNo

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Crocodile said:
The man literally and frequently contradicts himself in the same sentence! This is a man who agrees to policies without even knowing what he's agreeing to. This is a man who screams up and down climate change is false yet just this evening on MSNBC they were going on about how he was trying to get a wall built for his Scottish golf course due to climate change concerns. Did you see the fallout from his abortion stance in the town hall before the Wisconsin primary? Did you miss last week (or was it the week before) where he changed his stances of the minimum wage and taxes multiple times in the same day? I'm not defending Clinton here, I'm calling Trump a buffoon - nobody should be arguing otherwise.

Like c'mon son!
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Yeah but thats who is is, authenticity isn't truthfulness. He knows how to hit those buttons that make people believe him.
 
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User 463088

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SheSaidNo said:
Yeah but thats who is is, authenticity isn't truthfulness
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SheSaidNo

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I'm going to stop arguing this. Many others have that same feeling regarding Clinton, just listen to jon stewart on that axefiles episode recently; he has interviewed her and got this impression. Her advisors even know its an issue. Trump is more authentic in that he plays a real person much easier than she does. I shouldn't have said he's authentic to me because thats not really what I meant.

Edit: I wasn't even trying to have this conversation, I was just pointing out the fact that its stupid to only put one tweet in from a series of tweets to make it look like cornel west was supporting trump.
 
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User 463088

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eBay Huckster said:
trump is "more authentic" in that he is a man openly seeking power
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And women who dare do the same are immediately seen as pandering/fake/inauthentic. It's a tale as old as time. Hillary's not trying to play a part. She's a wonky, left of center person who wants to be President. She's not a natural politician at all. Something she freely admits to.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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Trump is "very, very Christian" even though he's never attended Church or prayed or read the Bible. Trump is "very pro-gun" even though he's never shot a gun and was pro-gun control right before he became convinced Obama was a Kenyan imposter.

I mean, Trump is "authentic" in that he talks and acts exactly like a lot of people in day to day life, but the people he's similar to are not really authentic people in the actual definition of the word.
 
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SheSaidNo

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pigeon said:
This is what I'm saying. Saying that you find Trump more authentic is just saying that racist misogynist pandering is comforting to you.
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Being authentic isn't related to that, you can find a racist who you think authentically believes their bigoted views, it dosent make it comforting. What was up with this "But I'm confident that thinking Trump is at all authentic is just a sad character statement about yourself." Authenticity does not mean i like him or respect him, hes been a nasty person since his radio interview and birther comments and central park case, but hes always been that way
 
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danm999

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Trump strikes me as having less of a filter, and trying to sell his own bullshit with confidence, but I don't equate that with him being authentic. I've seen him contradict himself too many times in too short of a period to ever believe that. He's just a good snake oil salesman is all.
 
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kadotsu

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Trump's edge is that he is openly racist/sexist/etc while the GOP establishment is these things only through policy, which is too complicated for some to understand. His rhetoric overlaps perfectly with their beliefs on immigration and intersectionality so the rest that creates cognitive dissonance is filled in by denial.
 
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RastaMentality

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Holmes said:
Bill was amazing.
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Even if I was exhausted from standing, that's true. He focused on stuff I didn't think he would and made a big point out of disabled workers. He still has the same charm he did in the 90s.

I didn't get to tell Kamala the gays love her but I will next time. I never know what to say to famous people when I see them right in front of me.
 
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Paskil

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By one definition of the word, Trump is indeed authentic. He's also a fucking moron that will not appeal to anyone outside of the people already supporting him. As each day passes, it becomes more and more difficult for him to pivot (if it was ever possible). Once the one billion plus oppo machince ramps up, Trump is fucking toast. Authentic? You're not going to know which Trump is the real Trump after this wacky mirror fun house general election ad season is done.
 
davepoobond

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
took an hour to look up all of the random judges and stuff for my primary ballot. it felt like i was looking at dating profiles, some were like "I love my dogs and 30 Rock is a great show!"

others were funny like "To paraphrase Winston Churchill..." and then they said something completely generic and I have no idea if Churchill actually said anything like that. They just wanted to give it some gravitas or whatever.


it was funny voting for the LA county supervisor, it doesnt say who is a republican or a democrat on the ballot, and it ends up that everyone was a republican except the last guy. not everyone was plainly obvious about their party affiliation.
 
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Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
davepoobond, putting in the extra work.

I looked up those races too, but so few do.
 
davepoobond

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
Suikoguy said:
davepoobond, putting in the extra work.

I looked up those races too, but so few do.
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i cheated and just used the CA Democrat and LA County Democrat party suggestions more-or-less, but there were a couple of gaping holes. no republicans for me this year. last time i voted for one was Schwarzenegger, and i have no regrets -- it was totally worth it to get him to have his signature on my university degree.
 
davepoobond

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
Paskil said:
They must have mailed his ballot? Ain't nobody have time on election day to look up all the people on the ballot at the polling place on their phone.
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of course. permanent vote-by-mail.


but they do send a sample ballot before, so you CAN research beforehand and bring it with you. i did that my first time around when i voted for Kerry in the primary.
 
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Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
davepoobond said:
i cheated and just used the CA Democrat and LA County Democrat party suggestions more-or-less, but there were a couple of gaping holes. no republicans for me this year. last time i voted for one was Schwarzenegger, and i have no regrets -- it was totally worth it to get him to have his signature on my university degree.
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Schwarzenegger was ok, would take him over Governor Voldemort here in Florida, no question.
 
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hawk2025

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au·then·tic
ôˈTHen(t)ik/
adjective
adjective: authentic; adjective: auth.
1.
of undisputed origin; genuine.
"the letter is now accepted as an authentic document"
synonyms: genuine, real, bona fide, true, veritable; More
legitimate, lawful, legal, valid;
informalthe real McCoy, the real thing, kosher
"an authentic document"
antonyms: fake
made or done in the traditional or original way, or in a way that faithfully resembles an original.
"the restaurant serves authentic Italian meals"
based on facts; accurate or reliable.
"an authentic depiction of the situation"
synonyms: reliable, dependable, trustworthy, authoritative, honest, faithful; More
accurate, factual, true, truthful;
formalveridical, veracious
"an authentic depiction of the situation"




*none* of this is Trump.
 
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whyamihere

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davepoobond said:
took an hour to look up all of the random judges and stuff for my primary ballot. it felt like i was looking at dating profiles, some were like "I love my dogs and 30 Rock is a great show!"

others were funny like "To paraphrase Winston Churchill..." and then they said something completely generic and I have no idea if Churchill actually said anything like that. They just wanted to give it some gravitas or whatever.


it was funny voting for the LA county supervisor, it doesnt say who is a republican or a democrat on the ballot, and it ends up that everyone was a republican except the last guy. not everyone was plainly obvious about their party affiliation.
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Do have a list of who you voted for by any chance? These random elections here always kill me.
 
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whyamihere

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Wait, what????

An Identity Caucus is a colloquial term for one of the "caucuses of underrepresented groups" affiliated with the Green Party of the United States. These caucuses are designed as formal vehicles for ensuring that the concerns of members of historically underrepresented groups are heard by the Green Party's national organization.

The national Green Party has formally recognized the National Women's Caucus, the Lavender Greens Caucus, the Black Caucus, the Young Greens Caucus, and the Latino Caucus. Other caucuses have been in the process of formation, including the Disabled Greens Caucus, the Rural Greens Caucus and the Blue-Green Labor Caucus. Formal accreditation of a caucus gives it a status equivalent to that of an accredited state party, except that each state party has two or more votes on the Green National Committee, while each caucus has only one.
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LOLOLOLOL

RT America announced that it would broadcast a Green Party presidential debate on May 9. The debate was moderated by the hosts of the RT America program Watching the Hawks, Tyrel Ventura and Tabetha Wallace.[77]
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jack_package_200 said:
Sam Bee on the NV Dem convention fuckery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrGlaUo4JEE

Yeah she isn't having any of it. The comments are a graveyard.
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Oh good I've been waiting for this.
 
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