What exactly can Trump do besides rescind Obama's non-discrimination EO? I mean, we know they're going to try and issue an edict and create law out of whole cloth like they did with today's regulation EO, but I'm not sure what the actual scope of their ability is on this one.
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What exactly can Trump do besides rescind Obama's non-discrimination EO? I mean, we know they're going to try and issue an edict and create law out of whole cloth like they did with today's regulation EO, but I'm not sure what the actual scope of their ability is on this one.
metalslimer
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Trump shouldn't have power outside of the federal governmenton lgbt issues
But that's a far reaching thing.
But that's a far reaching thing.
Shit, Prop 8 passed in California in 2008
Box of Kittens
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A lot of people seemed to mistake Trump not caring about LGBT issues as being on the right side of the issue.
Manmademan
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2018 is a midterm election though. Turnout is usually MUCH lower, and a very angry democratic base could make gains...especially if Trump fails to follow through bringing jobs back or deporting Mexicans...which he will.
metalslimer
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I've been trying to do some research but can't find anything. Assuming Trump rescinds the order protecting dreamers is there anything to legally stop the deportations of all of them
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The Holocaust Museum is not amused.
Hooligan69
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I don't think it's popular at all, as it's barely accepted by the ones who have gay children. They see it as an "agenda" being forced down their throat (LOL at their choice of words, not mine).
There's not much to be done about Sessions, no one in the GOP will jump ship on him. DeVos and Tillerson, maybe. The most we can hope for is a party line vote on Sessions.
Holocaust Museum to Trump et al "Bitch, please."
shinra-bansho
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Where's this idea coming from that Hardiman is moderate....
Also anti-lgbt EO would be such a dumb move. So he'll do it.
Also anti-lgbt EO would be such a dumb move. So he'll do it.
Chezzymann
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I hope he chooses Rush Limbaugh
RastaMentality
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the 538 graphic.
J.K. Rowling‏ @jk_rowling
*sighs* Well, who knows? If I try harder, I might be reincarnated as a lonely virgin hiding behind a cartoon frog.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/826121681999650817
That burn was exactly what I needed on this cold day.
*sighs* Well, who knows? If I try harder, I might be reincarnated as a lonely virgin hiding behind a cartoon frog.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/826121681999650817
That burn was exactly what I needed on this cold day.
StormBrute
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I visited the Holocaust Museum once, only briefly as I didn't have much time, but that place just... sticks with your soul in ways that you can't describe. No matter what you're expecting or how much you know beforehand about the Holocaust, actually being in the museum makes you feel the gravity of things in a way I can't imagine other places doing except actual sites in Europe.
It's really astounding to me that anyone can work for the Federal government in D.C., next to that museum, and still not care or understand. It's inhuman.
It's really astounding to me that anyone can work for the Federal government in D.C., next to that museum, and still not care or understand. It's inhuman.
Carpe Libertatem
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I wouldn't say he's moderate, but he's not far right. Him replacing Scalia would be moving the court leftward considerably.
shinra-bansho
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Reporting about Hardiman pegs him as just as Conservative as Gorsuch with more of a mad on for destroying free speech.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Hardiman said it was illegal to ban reading from the Bible in show and tell, but not illegal to ban "I love boobies" braclets on schools for breast cancer awareness month.
He's like >_>
He's like >_>
metalslimer
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You all know it's going to be Bryor
Plinko
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Is the ultimate goal of the LGBTQ EO to isolate that community by forcing them to move to liberal states with laws that benefit them, therefore increasing the power of the red states in elections?
RastaMentality
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This would be super unlikely considering getting people to move in large numbers is really difficult. Atlanta will have to continue being a black gay capital.
We'll know by the end of the week though: they've sound that's when we're going to have the draft LGBT EO and it's being reported by others on Twitter too. What then?
Frank the Great
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Well, one implicates religious freedom, and one doesn't. Not crazy.
Cesare Borgia
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There aren't enough gay people to tip the scale like that, and certainly not enough with the financial means to simply move to another state ASAP.
Trump is doing what presidents do: rewarding loyal base groups, donors, etc. In this case he's rewarding the religious right. Let's not forget this is exactly what Ted Cruz wanted to do, so it's not a Trump specific plot. Do I think Trump has any ideological alliance to right wing fundamentalism like Cruz? Of course not, he's clearly not religious. But the end result will be the same: LGBTQ people get hurt, the base is satisfied, promise fulfilled.
I'm wondering what the everliving fuck he's going to do if a major terrorist attack happens under his watch
A Human Becoming
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Just to point out, FiveThirtyEight did not do the calculation that pegged him a moderate: it was by a political scientist at Washington University.
The article mentions his conservative leanings:
FiveThirtyEight said:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Her entire recent twitter feed is hilarious.
Do you really not realize this is what happens anyway?
Gay people move to cities en masse already for a reason. And when you're single/childless, that city being in the same state isn't all that relevant.
I'm steeling myself for anything at this point.
In all my musings, of all the crazy things Trump proposed during the campaign, the Muslim ban was the most extreme (next to killing the families of terrorists). That we got that within the first ten days tells me that everything he campaigned on is on the table in some way, shape or form.
In all my musings, of all the crazy things Trump proposed during the campaign, the Muslim ban was the most extreme (next to killing the families of terrorists). That we got that within the first ten days tells me that everything he campaigned on is on the table in some way, shape or form.
rokkerkory
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Sorry if this was answered already, but did he give us a reason why none of the countries that had terrorists of 911 were not banned?
tedrotheredro
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Nah, Spicer asked "so you want more countries now? which is it?! can't have it both ways!"
Well it's not like he could say Trump has businesses there.
Imagine coming out of your little RI town hall to this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=AefwYjYkK6s&t=5m25s
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=AefwYjYkK6s&t=5m25s
rokkerkory
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Okay great, so potentially terrorists can just go to the unbanned countries and get in?
Awesome logic.
Doc Holliday
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balladofwindfishes
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The banned countries don't have business ties to Trump. The unbanned do.
Bam Bam Baklava
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No offense, but it's easy to beat up on the easiest target (dems in congress who rely on your vote). Where's the confrontations of Republicans?
smokeymicpot
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New Trump executive order on cyber security expected tomorrow, I'm told.
https://twitter.com/acosta/status/826197552995373057
Wonder what this will be now.
https://twitter.com/acosta/status/826197552995373057
Wonder what this will be now.
It sounds like the nomination that absolutely has to be blocked is Sessions. Are there any Republicans willing to vote against him?
Well he's talked about shutting down parts of the internet China style in the past so this could be something pretty scary.
Well he's talked about shutting down parts of the internet China style in the past so this could be something pretty scary.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
A lot of people are apathetic until reality hits home. "Life comes at you fast."
A lot of people still thought "it can't happen here" because literal nazis are just cartoons and video game enemies.
Plus the media's overall shitty job with false equivalency, making HER EMAILS more important than all the signs of fascists and anarchists buddying up with Trump... I'd bet it had a real impact on people not taking Trump seriously.
With no small irony, Trump moving so fast in order to appease his supporters also makes him terrifying to people who thought he couldn't be for real or it couldn't happen here.
shinra-bansho
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Yes. I realise. And note they explain the JCS score metric. (No one seemed to bother to read it though.)
And it just doesn't take into account their actual judicial record.
CrimzonSamurai
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Some form of Internet censorship coming probably, or like demanding personal info from social media networks into a nice database to quickly locate opposition targets
benicillin
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Hacking defense and his plan to make sure we have the best hacking defense we can.
EDIT: Can he even censor the internet with an executive order?
nintendoman58
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This is what really befuddles me. Is he going to go after CNN's website or any left-wing media site and suddenly order them to be shut down? Make it illegal for them to say anything bad about Trump?
Cesare Borgia
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Uh...no.
Democratic administrations make liberals weak.
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