smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Thought it was a R got excited.
Trump is going to the base since for the man they lost during the mission the other day.
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Thought it was a R got excited.
Trump is going to the base since for the man they lost during the mission the other day.
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I would definitely be worried about reelection in a state where Democrats consistently win statewide elections and has been won by increasing margins every presidential year.
VA is a purple state, where NOVA is super blue, and the rest of the state is super not.
Winning re-election is more important than making a bunch of other people feel better on a meaningless vote for a nominee who isn't Sessions/DeVos.
is Sessions' confirmation still a forgone conclusion?
that seems like a way higher priority than DeVos to me. I get that Sessions is all buddy-buddy with all of his senate colleagues, but god... there's got to be a way, right?
Kaine is actually up for re-election and voted against Tillerson.
that seems like a way higher priority than DeVos to me. I get that Sessions is all buddy-buddy with all of his senate colleagues, but god... there's got to be a way, right?
Kaine is actually up for re-election and voted against Tillerson.
oh god damnnit got me all excited for nothing
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Warner will be running as an incumbent in a D+7 state the next time he runs.
(Virginia will be D+7 by 2020)
(Virginia will be D+7 by 2020)
Bonen no Max'd
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That doesn't seem to matter when NOVA consistently outvotes the rest of the state in presidential elections.
Gurgelhals
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I thought Trump didn't have any respect for "loser" soldiers who get killed or captured in action...
rokkerkory
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he better pray for him, he sent him in there
Carpe Libertatem
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Eh it went from R+1 to Even to D+3, I doubt it will be D+7. It doesn't seem very elastic though.
I feel like Democrats haven't talked enough about how Trump's first official military action was a huge failure that left two Americans dead.
Taking bets on how many times he congratulates himself when he's supposed to be thanking the soldier for his service and sacrifice on the operation. Also slightly surprised he's willing to throw himself in front of this bullet. I figured he'd try to let it get buried under the news avalanche. Guess someone told him people were pissed enough for it to be a ticking bomb.
TestOfTide
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Dude, if southern Virginia couldn't outvote NOVA in the red rural wave of 2016, then Virginia it's bluer than my balls.
I like the Trump/DDOS analogy. There's so much crazy, awful shit to attack that the system is just completely overloaded.
"Have gave his life for the best President, except...maybe Lincoln."
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Sadly at least 3 or 4 times. Spicer will do it tomorrow too.
Box of Kittens
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Nobody is saying that VA is super blue. We're saying that if Dem senators from other purple states like WI and PA can get with the program, so can Warner. And there's no reason he needs to vote for an unqualified nominee to win re-election.
Coriolanus
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That goes for... uh... almost every blue state in the country?
I mean, even New York looks like this, and that was with that shitlord running as the republican representative
you really need to get past that edgelord undegrad mentality one of these days, mate.
And your opinion doesn't matter when you live in Idaho and don't vote in VA elections.
I edited this out because it was meant as a general statement, but it came out as a personal one.
To get control of the Senate, we need 51 seats. I don't blame the ones with risky seats for playing it safe.
On a vote that actually matters (like the SC one), thats where it counts.
Here's a more productive way of framing the Tillerson/generally meaningless cabinet vote question (that I'm genuinely interested in your opinion on):
Do you think Kaine should have voted to confirm Tillerson?
More_Badass
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So can someone summarize the DeVos votes for me? How many Republicans are needed to vote No?
It's a lean blue state. Hilary won VA by like 5.4%in the last election. It was only purple in 2012.
Tester is up for reelection in 2018 in Montana and has voted against everyone except for Mattis, Kelly and Haley.
Shit excuse for Warner. He barely won reelection 2 years ago in a Republican wave election in an increasingly blue state? So what? So many other Democrats voting against these picks are in much worse situations.
Shit excuse for Warner. He barely won reelection 2 years ago in a Republican wave election in an increasingly blue state? So what? So many other Democrats voting against these picks are in much worse situations.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
I think just one more.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Three Rs are needed, we have two right now.
Assuming that the teacher's union can get all Dems in line.
Roland_Gunner
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Three total. With Murkowski and Collins as nos that only leaves one left and DeVos is out.
I don't care how they vote because the vote isn't important and something's obviously being said behind the scenes to reassure people, especially given who was pushing him as a candidate. (Rice/Gates aren't Trumpers.)
Senators could give a flying fuck what your opinion is if you're not a constituent. People go on and on about the 50 state strategy, then start complaining when they see it in action.
assuming every D falls in line...
which should be an easier sell on DeVos than some of the other candidates, but you never know... [nervously eyeing Manchin]
They're lobbyists who retain Exxon as a client. Similar deal as the Obama solicitor general pushing for Gorsuch. I don't buy for a second that they have any personal liking towards Tillerson, though clearly the corporate interests are pushing for his confirmation and putting pressure on the GOP establishment.
UberTag
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Don't worry. Trump will still spend all of his time talking about himself.
This is posturing because a full-fledged military campaign will be launched soon and he wants soldiers to think he's in their corner.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Carpe Libertatem
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Manchin already said he's a no
Pretty sure all Dems have said that at this point
StopMakingSense
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I just don't see Tillerson having much of an effect on actual FP decisions either way, given how the administration has acted so far. Sec. State always just seems an avatar for the admin abroad, and not super impactful.
Carpe Libertatem
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I sort of worry that Murkowski and Collins are only voting No because the GOP already knows they have 50 votes without them
Gurgelhals
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I'd even take Tillerson over Bannon-via-Trump.
DeVos is an easy scapegoat and way to boost your "maverick cred" without actually doing much.
He's a congressman and not a Senator, so no, unless you just want to annoy his staffers, in which case yes.
Oh, right. I dum.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Only Senators will vote on her.
Just call Feinstein on Puzder when his hearing comes.
And call Feinstein on Gorsuch.
Carpe Libertatem
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Annoying Darrel Issa's staff is never a bad thing, however
Close friend of mine calls them frequently about disabled kids services. I don't think he actually listens to any of his voicemails.
https://thinkprogress.org/obama-law...in-supreme-court-93c70ad1d77a?gi=6b0eaeb8eb7e
As a private lawyer, he's representing corporate cases that will be argued in front of the supreme court soon.
Call him up anyways because he's a jackass and should be target #1 for flipping the house in 2018.
RastaMentality
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Why're all these senators shook? No one will care about these appointment votes. Are you gonna get an attack ad on not voting for Betsy DeVos of all people?
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