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PoliGAF 2017 |OT1| From Russia with Love
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Bonen no Max'd
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It's improved recently but this has been the coldest winter in recent memory. For a while we were hovering around 5 to negative five degrees and everything was constantly covered in snow. Now it's about 35 and rains all the time.
I think this line of thinking is a mistake, I think clear and consistent messaging is much more important than charisma. A better public speaker saying "no minimum wage hike" isn't going to make people who want a minimum wage hike happier.
I'm not arguing against having a clear and consistent message. But the messaging won't break through if people don't like the messenger. Barack Obama did not run on a platform of "kill the banks!" but won support from both moderate and liberal Dems all the same.
Moo.
balladofwindfishes
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We're usually around the teens with on/off medium/heavy snow at this time of the year here in Rochacha NY.
This year we got blusters of snow occasionally, two major days of accumulation over 3 months, but plenty of weeks well in the 40s with lots and lots of rain. Lots of rain. Never seen so much rain in the winter before.
Now we have some light snow forecast for early next week, and after that they're already looking towards spring. Today it's 43, tomorrow we might hit 60. Last Saturday we almost hit 70.
We've had winters where it didn't stop being winter until almost May (we usually only have about a week or two of traditional Spring and Fall weather), and here's the first week of March and it might be spring already.
It's quite unsettling.
This year we got blusters of snow occasionally, two major days of accumulation over 3 months, but plenty of weeks well in the 40s with lots and lots of rain. Lots of rain. Never seen so much rain in the winter before.
Now we have some light snow forecast for early next week, and after that they're already looking towards spring. Today it's 43, tomorrow we might hit 60. Last Saturday we almost hit 70.
We've had winters where it didn't stop being winter until almost May (we usually only have about a week or two of traditional Spring and Fall weather), and here's the first week of March and it might be spring already.
It's quite unsettling.
Got the Shakes
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We've had hardly any snow in Michigan. In fact it's high 50s today, and supposed to 60s to low 70s the rest of the week. This winter has been more mild than last spring was. Would normally be teens and 20s with probably a foot of snow on the ground this time of year.
I have a feeling the second round polls are actually overestimating le pen's appeal right now to the general french electorate. We could potentially see a reverse shy trump voter effect if a republican front forms in the second round.
Isn't voter participation in France significantly higher than in the U.S. therefore lowering the risk a of a surprise miss by polls?
Yep. But it's still possible the polls are off by around 1-2 points or more in the first and second round in the end since this election is a bit more crazy then past elections
Poodlestrike
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This is why Trump won. Every time a cow escapes into metropolitan area the east coast coastal elite freaks out and real America is tired of their hysterics.
nature boy
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GallupNews ‏@GallupNews 18m18 minutes ago
Trump Job Approval: Approve 41% (-1); Disapprove 53% (-).
Trump Job Approval: Approve 41% (-1); Disapprove 53% (-).
The fact that you can't remember Kerry or Gore really shows through here. Nerds lose.
whyamihere
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Automatic Voter Registration passes committee in Nevada. At worst, it'll be on the ballot in 2018. This is potentially HUGE because it takes a ton of time to register Democratic voters in Nevada because of how transient the state is. More resources could go to trying to contact voters who are newly registered (who are overwhelmingly Democratic) to get them to vote early.
http://www.rgj.com/story/news/polit...oves-one-step-closer-reality-nevada/98016554/
http://www.rgj.com/story/news/polit...oves-one-step-closer-reality-nevada/98016554/
ItWasMeantToBe19
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The Trump dilemma: People only like Trump when he's on vacation, but the more Trump is on vacation, the higher the probability that a terrorist attack or major crisis will happen while Trump is on vacation that destroys Trump's reputation.
his approval rating may drop below 40% again a few days from now.
I'm worried it'd help his reputation.
Bonen no Max'd
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Were Kerry and Gore known for consistent progressive messaging? Gore was the successor to Clinton, the triangulator-king, and Kerry was the antiwar candidate who voted for the war he was running against.
I'm not saying charisma is bad but I think it gets overblown here.
I was supposed to fly out on the next day and I had three flight cancellations. Pretty crazy change.
Chained Prometheus
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He fumbled that ball repeatedly as a candidate.
eh, the last uncharismatic president we had was elected on the coattails of an extremely popular and charismatic president, while running against another uncharismatic candidate. And even with all those caveats, that was still nearly 30 years ago.
Charisma matters a whole hell of a lot.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Third Strike
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Well, maybe we'll get another New Deal out of it... FDR'S second Bill of Rights is looking pretty good now.
But he also gets to say "I told you so" over and over and over and over. He'll blame judiciary and he'll just say it was a working vacation and he's so great he can work and golf at same time and still be better than everyone else anyway time to round up the muslims.
Who's watching Spicer right now. The question about trumps visit to the museum and hits view of the slaves exhibits, and Spicer ends up turning the answer about how trump liked the Carson exhibit with him, like that wasn't even the question, what did that have anything to do with what was asked
balladofwindfishes
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Chained Prometheus
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Yeah, Trump going "I TOLD YOU SO" immediately after a terrorist attack happening on US soil- especially if it happened while he was on vacation- would probably elicit a negative reaction from most.
Because ultimately, bragging about "being right" in the immediate fallout of a terrorist attack indicates that Trump doesn't give a shit about the fact that innocent civilians were just murdered, but rather that he cares more that he gets to say "I told you so" to his haters.
Pandora012
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Yeah I though him bringing up Carson and his wife so many times was funny.
You Know Nothing
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Hooligan69
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Most likely just holding in his bible-shaped buttplug, you know, to remain closer to god.
Dubbedinenglish
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The beef just got 10 ft higher.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
He quit/fired.
good. but its still breitbart
getting forced out of breitbart for going too far is quite an achievement
Actually we tend to think more about that Everybody Loves Raymond episode where Robert got gored in the ass by the bull when this goes down.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Right, at least we know their limit now.
Dubbedinenglish
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Deport next pls
Mobius and pet octopus
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The limit being an embarrassment nationwide (wider?). It had nothing to do with what he said, which happened like over a year ago now iirc.
they're not sending their best cuts. They're sending their ground chuck, their flank steak, their bottom-round. And some of them, I assume, are rib-eye.
Aaron Strife
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AntraxSuicide
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People get the government they eject. My limited empathy goes to the people who didn't choose to gut their main source of protection.
balladofwindfishes
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Or it'll lead to a fascist super power rising up to be the catalyst to WWIII
Macho Madness
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you know what? i'd be a lot more concerned about this country if it wasn'tled by the least racist person
Macho Madness
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oh also i meant to post this video: https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/834103479199203330
chuck grassley who helped kill any bipartisan support for the aca gets it shoved back in his face from an old friend
chuck grassley who helped kill any bipartisan support for the aca gets it shoved back in his face from an old friend
The idea that "being the most progressive" wins campaigns is utterly insane.
Charisma wins because of the nature of swing voters.
Macho Madness
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so is the idea of catering to the right of center
Bonen no Max'd
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Good thing I didn't say that then!
My point was that if you think a lack of "charisma" is the only reason the left has infighting, then you're missing why the left wing of the party is dissatisfied with its nominees. Does anyone here really think that Sanders is some amazing public speaker or charismatic figure?
also this
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