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PoliGAF 2017 |OT1| From Russia with Love

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Jeels

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balladofwindfishes said:
You strip people of their income, their food, their homes and their healthcare, then antagonize them while sitting in your golden throne room and it's a recipe for disaster.

I don't think it'll be a civil war, but violent, long lasting riots seem entirely possible, if not likely.

You can only push people so far before they snap.
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No it'll be a civil war because the people being stomped on are going to be predominantly black, brown, gay, and young. And when a bunch of second amendment nuts see these people rioting in the streets they are going to take their fucked up vigilante mindsets, provoked by Trump's rhetoric, and take it to the streets as well.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Jeels said:
I think Trump is going to cause a civil war but it's not going to be a north vs south regional thing. It's incredibly scary to think about.
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I don't see how a civil war is even possible considering there are no defined metrics like "North" and "South." The only possible thing you would see is a race war.
 
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dramatis

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Sirpopopop said:
The Women's March on Washington not putting Hillary Clinton's name on the list of Honorees is ridiculous.

Not really sure that's the right message you need to be sending here.

In any case here are the list of "honorees":

Bella Abzug • Corazon Aquino • Ella Baker • Grace Lee Boggs
Berta Cáceres • Rachel Carson • Shirley Chisholm • Angela Davis
Miss Major Griffin Gracy • LaDonna Harris • Dorothy I. Height
bell hooks • Judith Heumann • Dolores Huerta • Marsha P. Johnson
Barbara Jordan • Yuri Kochiyama • Winona LaDuke
Audre Lorde • Wilma Mankiller • Diane Nash • Sylvia Rivera
Barbara Smith • Gloria Steinem • Hannah G. Solomon
Harriet Tubman • Edith Windsor • Malala Yousafzai
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It's fine. They don't have Eleanor Roosevelt on the list, my guess is that they have certain criteria.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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Thousands of Mexicans have died to keep heroin out of the United States.

Things in the Rust Belt are about to get very bad once Mexico quits caring protecting Americans from drugs, especially with Jeff Sessions being so "tough on crime."
 
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balladofwindfishes

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Trump has half a year before Hurricane Season starts.

Hopefully he's ready. A hurricane is part of what took down W. If 2016 is anything like 2017, it's going to be a rough year for him, in just hurricanes, alone.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
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Tell that to a person in rural america who isn't making great money.

Every little bit helps.
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*Raises hand*

I am considering moving to the west coast for a job in the future and buying a house would probably be my best choice. This hurts.
 
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kess

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NPR just had a bit on where they were talking about the PA systems being set up for the inauguration being used to broadcast right wing radio to an empty mall yesterday.
 
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jtb

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one Greenwald-ian point I will concede:

it is churlish that the first and last line of defense against an anti-democratic fascist like Trump is something even more undemocratic in the deep state. desperate times...
 
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Diablos

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40k people in the rust belt with help from the FBI and Russia gave us this long nightmare. And he lost the fucking popular vote to boot.

2016 was a mistake.
 
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Hooligan69

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balladofwindfishes said:
Police are going to kill an innocent minority one of these weeks and I fear the entire country is going to descend into chaos and riots. Not just the normal riots that happen after a police killing, but unrest through the entire country.

Tensions are extremely high right now, and everyone seems to be on a hair trigger, including Trump. Who will probably do or say something stupid the first time there's a big riot over a police shooting. And cause chain reactions over the country of more rioting.
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Good!! We have to go through this and hit some scary moments in order to view rock bottom and scare ourselves out of it.
 
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mo60

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UberTag said:
This is his Christmas morning. He can't wait to unwrap all the presents under his tree.
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It won't be christmas for him forever. Also I don't get how people think the GOP can just implement a bunch of voting restrictions that help them win presidential and congressional election and be able to hold the white house congress for decades because of these voting restrictions. The US is way to polarized to let a political party hold that much power for decades now. The US is not like alberta were two different conservative parties pretty much held power for over 80 years.
 
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Randolph Freelander

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Jason Chaffetz needs a new hobby.

C2pDpZ3W8AAQO1E.jpg
 
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Retromelon

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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/315223-poll-trump-approval-rating-hits-new-low-hours-before
Just over a third of Americans approve of President-elect Donald Trump, according to a new poll released hours before his inauguration.

The survey from Fox News showed that 37 percent of Americans approve of Trump ahead of his inauguration, while 54 percent do not.

Measuring the country’s mood just before Inauguration Day, 60 percent of Americans said “it’s everyone for themselves,” and 34 percent said “we’re all in this together.”
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/315284-white-house-climate-change-webpage-disappears-after-trumps
Less than an hour after President Trump took the oath of office on Friday, the White House’s webpage on climate change disappeared, the latest sign that the new administration will divert resources – and attention – from the issue.

The removal of the page from the White House’s website came around the same time the site and other Executive Branch digital platforms were overhauled to reflect the new administration.
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Oil industry stooge ass bitch
 
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dramatis

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I wouldn't stress about it.

Jason Chaffetz will be forgotten by history soon enough, there was nothing remarkable about him other than his insistence on investigating things. Not everybody can be a McCarthy.
 
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Dominican Power

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He's the same asshole that leaked the letter the Comey sent to congress that essentially turned the tide of the election. I seriously don't know how Hillary does it.
 
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cartoon_soldier

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This is huge?

http://electionlawblog.org/?p=90572

In a 457 page opinion (including appendices) by Trump #SCOTUS shortlister William Pryor, a three-judge federal district court in the Alabama racial gerrymandering case has struck down 12 challenged Alabama districts as unconstitutional. Judge Myron Thompson, in a separate 120-page opinion, agreed those districts were unconstitutional but believed 12 more districts were unconstitutional.
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Wilsongt

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David Duke‏ @DrDavidDuke
Hail Prez Trump! America First! Save USA borders not foreign. Make nations (((Israel)))? pay own defense! NO to (((Neocon))) warmongers!

He's in for a rude awakening about ((((((((((((Israel)))))))))))
 
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hydragonwarrior

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mo60 said:
It won't be christmas for him forever. Also I don't get how people think the GOP can just implement a bunch of voting restrictions that help them win presidential and congressional election and be able to hold the white house congress for decades because of these voting restrictions. The US is way to polarized to let a political party hold that much power for decades now. The US is not like alberta were two different conservative parties pretty much held power for over 80 years.
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Um, that's precisely why they'll be enacting so much voting restriction/Republican helping polcies in Swing states so they never have to worry about losing a majority again.

Republicans play ruthlessly but they have ground politics on point. Dems are still struggling to figure out how to get their parties engaged in politics long enough to vote when it matters, such as for a House or Senate seat.
 
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dramatis

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Wilsongt said:
David Duke‏ @DrDavidDuke
Hail Prez Trump! America First! Save USA borders not foreign. Make nations (((Israel)))? pay own defense! NO to (((Neocon))) warmongers!

He's in for a rude awakening about ((((((((((((Israel)))))))))))
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I'm curious how a fight between Duke and the Israel lobby turns out
 
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QuantumSquid

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I found this comment on Reddit. I don't agree with it, but I thought it was interesting. Maybe you will too.

I've said it before but what is sad about the Dems is that at a time when they should be introspecting, they're looking to shift blame for their own failures, ensuring that the DNC establishment doesn't actually change. From the riots to the physical attacks to the refusal to accept the results, it's not a good look. This election wasn't actually a referendum on Trump, it was a referendum on what passes for the modern representatives of the liberal left in America, the Democratic party.

Democrats, you have completely and utterly lost touch with the common man, whose concerns used to be at the very center of the political left.

They're blaming the loss on everything, from sexism of Bernie supporters to Russia to fake news to everyone who voted against them being stupid. The left finally got an actual populist that talked about actual real issues like trade deals, stopping monopolies and putting term limits on Congress, and what did the DNC do? They crushed him to continue the failed policies of the liberal establishment.

They have abandoned their core principles. What passes for "liberal" today in America has almost nothing to do with classic liberalism (individual rights, freedom of thought/speech...etc). The great liberal tradition that rejects regressive dogmatic ideologies and which is compassionate to the working class stiffs that build the country is now gone. The left-wing movement in this country, at least going back the last 20 years or so, hasn't really been one of left-wing economics or individualistic free thinking, or using government to improve the lives of the working and middle classes. What's passed for left-wing politics in this country is really just identity politics: promising to give various handouts to some identifiable minority group (blacks, women, illegal immigrants, lgbt...etc).

Today that electrician stringing up wires of homes in Wisconsin, that welder putting together steel plates in Pennsylvania, that man fixing an elevator in Ohio, the many men across the country with dirt under their nails from working with their hands....these aren't your people anymore.

Instead you are now the party of the gender studies graduate with manicured nails, lecturing others about the evil racist sexist America, telling the struggling white working class that they hold white privilege and therefore hold an eternal debt to all non-white people based purely on the color of their skin.

The DNC is the the party of those who go absolutely nuts when a Christian baker doesn't want to be forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding, yet instantly jumps in to defend insanely backwards ideologies like Islam when yet another Muslim mass murders innocent homosexuals.

It is the party of collusion with media to mislead the public, of corruption and saying nice empty platitudes that have been filtered through 5 focus groups as to not offend anyone while doing the very opposite of these platitudes.

It is the party of Black Lives Matter, the oppression Olympics, of 20 different gender pronouns, virtue signalling and all the noxious ideas like "social justice" that claim that all difference in outcome must be due to some etheral discrimination, and that places the collectivist forced equality of outcome over the rights of an individual.

It is the party of the elitist air of moral superiority, of ivory tower attitudes holding contempt and instantly discounting the views of regular people that don't hold a degree studying Critical Theory or the works of Juddith Butler.

And what has this disconnect lead to? The following:


  • Republicans have won a majority in the House of Representatives, with 238 seats.
  • Republicans have won the majority in the Senate.
  • Republicans now hold 33 Governorships, with a gain of three seats on November 8.
  • Republicans control a record 68 of 98 state legislative chambers.
  • Republicans now hold more total state legislature seats, well over 4,100 of the 7,383, than they have since 1920
  • A former reality TV star with no government experience whatsoever won the White House.
  • President Trump will have one Supreme Court vacancy to fill immediately and could potentially add at least two more justices before his first term is finished.
The GOP now controls all levels of our government, it is the most powerful it has been in over 80 years according to Real Clear Politics and Washington Post.
Come the midterms in 2018, the electorate map looks really good for the GOP and they could easily win enough seats to pass the threshold needed for them to start changing the Constitution.
And it wasn't because of Trump's brilliance or the Republicans, but because of YOUR failures.
You could have prevented this. You could have kicked out the out of touch elitists and candidates that can't connect with the average person, you could have listened to the common man instead you treated them like utter garbage, with the insufferable arrogance of guilt tripping and shaming everyone who disagrees with your identity politics nonsense.
You can get mad at me and continue down this path if you want.
But you made this bed for yourself.
And god damn do you deserve to now sleep in it.
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