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PoliGAF 2017 |OT3| 13 Treasons Why

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Makai

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I still can't fathom people who are obsessed with the FBI reopening clinton email case hoping she and Obama get arrested. Someone on Twitter mentioned she was hopeful it would be done in time for her 80 year old dad to enjoy before he dies.

Imagine that's your life goal: delusion.
 

Ogodei

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Scott Brown's 2014 failure in the face of a conservative wave makes me think carpetbagging is maybe still a pretty important thing to avoid.

Carpet bagging across state lines is a different ballgame, i'd say. At least the people in Southeastern Arizona (usin' my district names, y'all) have had a chance to vote for Kirkpatrick before.

Aiming her sights lower is the more troubling thing frankly. Who are they getting to run against Flake?
 
I still can't fathom people who are obsessed with the FBI reopening clinton email case hoping she and Obama get arrested. Someone on Twitter mentioned she was hopeful it would be done in time for her 80 year old dad to enjoy before he dies.

Imagine that's your life goal: delusion.

Some people, that IS their political goal life.

I mean, the alternative is a generally competant and prosperous democrat-lead government! Imagine the imagined horrors that would stalk their minds once more!!!
 

Blader

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Carpet bagging across state lines is a different ballgame, i'd say. At least the people in Southeastern Arizona (usin' my district names, y'all) have had a chance to vote for Kirkpatrick before.

Aiming her sights lower is the more troubling thing frankly. Who are they getting to run against Flake?

Kirkpatrick will be in that race too.
 

Sibylus

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Does anyone think Turkey will leave NATO if the PKK attack Turkey with US weapons?

Off the top of my head? No, unless Erdogan thinks he can realign with Russia and still come out ahead (and historical/current tensions don't suggest that they would try in the short term. Different sides of the proxy war in Syria, too).
 

Ogodei

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Kirkpatrick will be in that race too.

How the heck does that work?

I get it with things like Paul Ryan running for VP from the safe incumbency of his house seat (it's basically only one campaign for him since the other's on autopilot), but even if that's allowed in your state, how do you swing that? How do you make the case to AZ-2 that you'll represent them when you're also making the case to all of Arizona?

This would be a bad idea.
 

Teggy

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Ah, I missed this part

Mr. Comey made no comment, but later in the day he declined a request to testify before the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday. According to a close associate of Mr. Comey, he is willing to testify, but wants it to be in public.
 

jWILL253

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So, now that Trump has made so many enemies this week alone with his actions, that it's now a matter of "when" he goes down, instead of "if" he goes down...

I just want to know how deep the rabbit hole goes, and who else is a part of this elaborate scheme to ruin us from within? The FBI's RICO raid on the GOP fundraising headquarters, and the probe into Paul Manafort's finances and Trump's casinos has really captured my interest here. What are the odds that multiple GOP politicians are knowingly having their SuperPACS funded via illegal money laundered by the Russian Mob/The Kremlin? Who paid who, who took favors from who, who enacted Russian-favorable public policy?

It might seem kinda farfetched due to the pure ridiculousness of the whole ordeal, but reality is so much stranger than fiction that I'm surprised we haven't figured out a way to make pigs fly at this point. We might not only be looking at the collapse of the Trump administration... depending on how deep this RICO case goes, and how much longer Republicans continue to gaslight for Trump, we might actually witness the systemic collapse of a political party that, en masse, sold out to a foreign entity for the sake of power and riches.

It's actually kind of exciting, and would be entertaining if it didn't mean that we're watching the collapse of our democracy in real time. Depending on how deep this is, our country could fundamentally transform seemingly overnight.
 

mo60

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So, now that Trump has made so many enemies this week alone with his actions, that it's now a matter of "when" he goes down, instead of "if" he goes down...

I just want to know how deep the rabbit hole goes, and who else is a part of this elaborate scheme to ruin us from within? The FBI's RICO raid on the GOP fundraising headquarters, and the probe into Paul Manafort's finances and Trump's casinos has really captured my interest here. What are the odds that multiple GOP politicians are knowingly having their SuperPACS funded via illegal money laundered by the Russian Mob/The Kremlin? Who paid who, who took favors from who, who enacted Russian-favorable public policy?

It might seem kinda farfetched due to the pure ridiculousness of the whole ordeal, but reality is so much stranger than fiction that I'm surprised we haven't figured out a way to make pigs fly at this point. We might not only be looking at the collapse of the Trump administration... depending on how deep this RICO case goes, and how much longer Republicans continue to gaslight for Trump, we might actually witness the systemic collapse of a political party that, en masse, sold out to a foreign entity for the sake of power and riches.

It's actually kind of exciting, and would be entertaining if it didn't mean that we're watching the collapse of our democracy in real time. Depending on how deep this is, our country could fundamentally transform seemingly overnight.

I hate to say this but I doubt the republican party will completely collapse because they sold out to a foreign entity.It's likely after trump is gone that the republican party is so damaged that they don't win the presidency for another 8 to 16 years, but they will still be around as a political party unless someone pulls a Macron and creates a new political party not tainted by trump being associated with the republican party.
 
I hate to say this but I doubt the republican party will completely collapse because they sold out to a foreign entity.It's likely after trump is gone that the republican party is so damaged that they don't win the presidency for another 8 to 16 years, but they will still be around as a political party unless someone pulls a Macron and creates a new political party not tainted by trump being associated with the republican party.

I wonder if it'll even take that long for them to regroup. They cleansed themselves of Nixon's stench rather quickly by finding a new conservative messiah in Reagan. They only need another "revival" (religious connotations intended) in which they feign contrition, a #notallrepublicans hashtag, and they'll have redeemed themselves in the hearts of rubes everywhere. Fox News will help by holding weekly or daily or hourly sermons.
 

mo60

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I wonder if it'll even take that long for them to regroup. They cleansed themselves of Nixon's stench rather quickly by finding a new conservative messiah in Reagan. They only need another "revival" (religious connotations intended) in which they feign contrition, a #notallrepublicans hashtag, and they'll have redeemed themselves in the hearts of rubes everywhere. Fox News will help by holding weekly or daily or hourly sermons.

Nixon only hurt the republicans temporarily. The republicans were the dominant presidential party during that period. Obviously just getting a new guy not connected to nixon at all was going to help them a lot. Carter screwups also helped them to. The difference this time is the republicans are not really the dominant presidential party. The democrats have been since 1992.Trump's downward spiral will likely be way worse then Nixon's which may complicate things for the republicans especially if the party is connected to anything trump did.Trump may be the thing that helps kills polarization in the US at this point depending on how the next few years or so go. The republicans will have to make signifcant changes once trump goes.It won't be a repeat of Reagan.
 

sc0la

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Cross posting from the trump fires Comey thread because frankly this thread has better taste:
I think comeys hands might be bigger than trump himself.
I can't wait until all this shit is over and scooby-doo pulls off Trump's mask and reveals... another smaller Trump. A true small man with a giant chip on his shoulder. Out to get back at the world that always looked down on him.
Hands were real the whole time because it's hard to do stuff with gloves on.

"I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for these meddling kids Jim Comey and Obama's "wire-taps"!
 

chadskin

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Several people close to the president say his reliance on a small cadre of advisers as he mulled firing Comey reflects his broader distrust of many of his own staffers. He leans heavily on daughter Ivanka Trump and son-in-law Jared Kusher, as well as Hope Hicks, his trusted campaign spokeswoman and Keith Schiller, his longtime bodyguard. Schiller was among those Trump consulted about Comey and was tapped by the president to deliver a letter informing the director of his firing.
https://www.apnews.com/f6b3c3ebe5164c188072f5787357360f

Daughter, son-in-law, 28-year-old friend of Ivanka and his bodyguard -- stellar group.
 

Maledict

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The fact she drank John McCain and Lindsey Graham under the table doing vodka shots in Bosnia should have been the story they used to humanise her, not weird stuff about her fathers curtain business.
 

Ithil

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I do actually wonder how many people would've changed their minds and voted for her if they actually knew she likes to drink, and could picture themselves having a drink with her.

By contrast Trump doesn't drink at all, so their idea of "Someone I'd like to have a drink with" is impossible. Putting aside the fact that Trump would be utterly insufferable to have a conversation with, as evidenced by...every conversation he has ever had with anyone in his life.
 
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