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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house

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Maengun1

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I really see no way Bernie runs (or gets anywhere if he does) in 2020, even setting aside his age (which would be crazy in and of itself). Yeah he's still popular from last year now...Hillary was super popular in 2012 no? I remember the cool-Hillary-on-her-phone-memes. 4 years later she's Internet Satan

There will be a new hotness in 2020.

~prepares to be wrong like usual tho~
 
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Box of Kittens

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Emerson said:
Not when the incumbent is Donald fucking Trump it isn't.

2020 is not the time for liberals to tear themselves apart looking for the perfect candidate. 2020 is the time to remove a dangerously incompetent man from office by literally any means necessary.
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Who said anything about the perfect candidate? The candidate should meet some minimum standards in terms of experience and belief in Democratic values. Manchin is OK on the former but fails the latter. Kander would be an example of someone who is fine on the latter but fails on the former. Frankly the "X is the only candidate who can defeat Trump" mentality is misguided. I'd love to see a scenario in which Joe Manchin is the only candidate who can beat Trump.

And yes, it does fucking matter that the person we elect actually be able to do the job decently unless you want to end right back in the same predicament four years later and/or make no progress on actually fixing the damage Trump is doing.
 
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Teggy

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DCZ-zRLXgAATdt0
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Guess we should expect a story sourced to a foreign government official soon.
 
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Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
whyamihere said:
Prediction that has no basis in reality and means nothing: Harris and Gillibrand will both run and eat into their own potential bases.
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Lack of Rank Order Voting strikes again!

BlastProcessing said:
Burn the witch.
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All I can think of is Tristan Taylor from YuGiOh abridged when I hear that.

Dubbedinenglish said:
8 hours? I don't think Alex Jones would interview himself for 8 hours.
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1.) If he did not notify that he would be recording the interview himself, he will likely be blacklisted even more than he already is.
2.) Always assume someone is recording things.
3.) lol @ 8 hours.
 
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TestOfTide

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Teggy said:
Guess we should expect a story sourced to a foreign government official soon.
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I'm guessing that Team Trump may have found out that one's of the Press's IC sources from an already released IC story was actually a foreign IC source.

One hand that worries me because that possibly means that Team Trump has started to figure out who some of the leakers are.

On the other hand I think it's just feeding into Team Trump's paranoia to find out that they have to wary of NATO intelligence watching in on them too.
 
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Poodlestrike

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AndyD said:
Either that or it's Putin's statement on prosecution/persecution of Comey.
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That thing about him offering Comey political asylum is surreal. I don't even know what the intent is there. Making it look like Comey is the Russian agent is the obvious play but goddamn it's so hamfisted I can't tell.
 
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RastaMentality

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neurosisxeno said:
People got displeased by a white woman having the audacity to talk about minority issues. You think a woman of color isn't going to have to walk the worlds most ridiculous tight rope? Harris is going to get all the coded sexist and coded racist language imaginable.
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We should go all in nearly 50 years after Malcolm said this.

Kid Kamikaze10 said:
Well the Jacobin, Intercept and TYT trifecta already got the knives out on Harris, so more than likely she ain't happening in 2020.

Speaking of, what is up with these news orgs and hating black female political figures?

BLM members (And more specifically the Safetypinbox owners)

Joy Ann Reid

Donna Brazile

Kamala Harris

Maxine Walters


Hell, add Angela Rye into the mix and they would be against every notable black female democrat in the spotlight. Besides the Honorable Nina Turner of course.... Bleh
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because the only black woman white liberals respect is Michelle Obama and that would probably end the moment she actually got into politics.
 
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Ether_Snake

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Did they stop the daily press briefings? I don't see any since the 6th on the WH's youtube.
 
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RastaMentality

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Let's be 100% real. Since we already had Obama, it's not gonna be easy for any of these white candidates to shore up any significant sector of the black vote against actual black candidates. And these are black candidates with extensive ties to civil rights. Unless Booker and Harris drop out before the South, it's gonna be really fuckin hard for all these white dudes and Hillary 2 to get the black vote.

Gilibrand is awesome and all but let's be real here. It's not just identity politics when Booker and Harris were the only ones going around saying Black Lives Matter when it wasn't always convenient.
 
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Teggy

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Whaaaaaaaaaaaa

President Trump chooses inexperienced woman who planned his son Eric's wedding to run N.Y. federal housing programs

http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/news...er-run-n-y-housing-programs-article-1.3251314

”Responsible for organizing, executing and assisting with upscale events and celebrity golf tournaments," her LinkedIn profile says. ”Handle celebrity talent acquisition for various marketing projects, philanthropic events and golf tournaments."

From 2011 through January, she also helped run the Eric Trump Foundation, a charity that's now under investigation by state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.

She also claims on her LinkedIn page to have obtained a juris doctorate degree in 2000 from Quinnipiac University School of Law in Connecticut. Next to the J.D. notation is written (N/A) without explanation.

On Thursday school registrar Jim Benson said Patton attended for two semesters but did not graduate.

She also listed Yale University but HUD officials couldn't explain why that was there. Patton, who begins her Region II job July 5, did not return calls seeking comment.
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Lo-Volt

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Teggy said:
Whaaaaaaaaaaaa

President Trump chooses inexperienced woman who planned his son Eric's wedding to run N.Y. federal housing programs

http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/news...er-run-n-y-housing-programs-article-1.3251314
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Last month she paid a surprise visit to NYCHA but never actually entered a NYCHA apartment.

During the May 5 visit, she asked to see a community center that had fallen into disrepair at the McKinley Houses in the Bronx. NYCHA Chairwoman Shola Olatoye said the agency staff who escorted Patton said she was “less interested in the actual infrastructure and more interested in an old clipping of the community center that was all glass and steel and now is struggling.”

“I think the reaction was surprise, maybe a little bit horrified,” Olatoye said.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO. Jesus, NO!
 
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Teggy

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So Matt Yglesias thinks this article about Kushner being under investigation is what the DOJ release was referring to:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph...9a32c6-51f2-11e7-91eb-9611861a988f_story.html

The end of the first paragraph says "according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter," but an earlier version of the story only said, "according to officials familiar with the matter."

So probably Kushner, Trump and Ivanka freaked about the story and made them release the statement and the Post updated the article in response to the nitpick.



Oh, also announced today was that Tim Canova will be running against DWS again.
 
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royalan

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Kid Kamikaze10 said:
Issues with staffers and volunteers

Bad stance on sex workers

Not that great in terms of prison industrial complex related issues.
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These are the kinds of minor critiques that can be leveled upon pretty much anyone who has been in politics for any length of time. That's why charisma is important.
 
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AntraxSuicide

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RastaMentality said:
Let's be 100% real. Since we already had Obama, it's not gonna be easy for any of these white candidates to shore up any significant sector of the black vote against actual black candidates. And these are black candidates with extensive ties to civil rights. Unless Booker and Harris drop out before the South, it's gonna be really fuckin hard for all these white dudes and Hillary 2 to get the black vote.

Gilibrand is awesome and all but let's be real here. It's not just identity politics when Booker and Harris were the only ones going around saying Black Lives Matter when it wasn't always convenient.
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Also candidates like Harris, Booker, and Gillibrand have large home states/regions. Add in delegate-rich states like Georgia, Texas, and Florida in the South and candidates without appeal beyond rural areas get left behind.

Teggy said:
Oh, also announced today was that Tim Canova will be running against DWS again.
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Lol, has he looked up anyone that lives in the district first?
 
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shinra-bansho

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All this yearning for old white has-been fossils, predominantly male, when there's a bunch if young more diverse up and coming talent, with the most promising being women.
 
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pigeon

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You know, the best way for us to peel off Trump voters would be for us to nominate Donald Trump as the Democratic candidate.
 
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royalan

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shinra-bansho said:
All this yearning for old white has-been fossils, predominantly male, when there's a bunch if young more diverse up and coming talent, with the most promising being women.
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Right!?

I mean, maybe I'm not paying attention, but who is the young, charismatic and prominent white male politician who could run in 2020? It's not really exclusion if there aren't any ready for prime time. Chris Murphy? Has he been making any moves to indicate he might run? Has he grown a personality in the last few weeks?

I'd be all for a white guy, but Democrats really need to start prominently factoring in personality and charisma in who they run, because more than policy THAT is what wins elections. And all the Dem heavy hitters in that department at the moment are all women and minorities.

Mayor Pete is quite the charmer, but he won't be ready for prime time by 2020.
 
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VendettaRed07

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shinra-bansho said:
All this yearning for old white has-been fossils, predominantly male, when there's a bunch if young more diverse up and coming talent, with the most promising being women.
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It's not really yearning at all. I just think Sanders will run. It isn't crazy speculation. And I don't think people should just assume because he's old that he won't

I just think it will come down to him and Harris because they both seem to want it the most where as others seem like they are content remaining senators.

Just replace Hillary with Harris and O'Malley with Zuckerberg and I think that'll be our debate stage a week before Iowa probably
 
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Pryce

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Bernie or Biden running would be dumb. They're both too old, and so is Warren. Booker sucks beyond belief, Kander's too inexperienced (though I <3 him). I'm whatever on Gillibrand.

I like Murphy and Harris.
 
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Atenhaus

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VendettaRed07 said:
It's not really yearning at all. I just think Sanders will run. It isn't crazy speculation. And I don't think people should just assume because he's old that he won't

I just think it will come down to him and Harris because they both seem to want it the most where as others seem like they are content remaining senators.

Just replace Hillary with Harris and O'Malley with Zuckerberg and I think that'll be our debate stage a week before Iowa probably
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Has O'Malley made much noise recently?
 
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AntraxSuicide

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Atenhaus said:
Has O'Malley made much noise recently?
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Most people are looking at him as outsiders, but O'Malley is so hated in Maryland that they (as one of the, if not the, most Democratic states in the Union) elected a Republican as governor after him. It's not flashy but a lot of the early moves in a race are about building up a good starting base to work with, but O'Malley would be lucky to recruit anyone from Maryland to just not spit on the guy.

He's got no chance nationally.

Edit: And all of this is to say that he knows that so I doubt he'll try again (unless it's for the same reason he ran this past time, to angle for a job in somebody else's White House).
 
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Drkirby

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BlastProcessing said:
I was about to post, what the hell is this shit?

I interpret it as Trump pressuring Rosenstein to kill the story and this being as far as Rosey was willing to go.
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It could be Rosenstein knows that another government (Like say, Russia) is going to start trying to muddle the waters with bogus stories.
 
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