This has nothing to do with Mueller and the Russia probe. Just another ethics breach that Trump and his goons have stepped into.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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This has nothing to do with Mueller and the Russia probe. Just another ethics breach that Trump and his goons have stepped into.
Plasticine
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Trump will be such a shithead about Joe and Mika, they'll release them.
Rap snitches, telling all their business
Sit in the court and be their own star witness
Do you see the perpetrator? - Yeah, I'm right here
Fuck around, get the whole label sent up for years
Autodidact
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Right. This tabloid shit just damages his reputation further. A wise man once said that scandals don't cause low approval ratings; low approval ratings cause scandals. The more stupid shit like this hurts him, the more susceptible he'll be to important Russia shit.
TheLaughingStock
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I think he won predominantly because of his superior electoral strategy, the liberal media bubble and the economy.
Bonen no Max'd
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Merkel's vote against same-sex marriage reminds me how confused I am by how much American liberals love her.
whyamihere
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Obama loves her too!
Pandora012
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Have you seen the current US president? That and probably many American liberals like to make assumptions.
BlastProcessing
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This would absolutely be within Mueller's purview. Remember, the negative coverage that Trump was trying to stop here was about Russia. This is a potentially criminal act that was committed to effect the Russia story.
IamDodongo
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Love that song so much
A new poll shows the health care bill could crush Senate Republicans
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/30/15900564/health-bill-politics-midterms
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/30/15900564/health-bill-politics-midterms
whyamihere
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So the following states/SoSes have said they're not giving Pence/Kobach anything more than what's available publicly:
Connecticut (Dem SoS)
California (Dem SoS)
New York (Dem SoS)
Massachusetts (Dem SoS)
Kentucky (Dem SoS)
North Carolina (Dem Sos/mixed Election Board)
Utah (GOP SoS)
Indiana (GOP SoS)
Wisconsin (Dem SoS)
Virginia (Dem SoS)
Minnesota (Dem SoS)
Oklahoma (GOP SoS)
Tennessee (GOP SoS)
New Mexico (Dem SoS)
Vermont (Dem SoS)
Rhode Island (Dem SoS)
Did I miss any?
Connecticut (Dem SoS)
California (Dem SoS)
New York (Dem SoS)
Massachusetts (Dem SoS)
Kentucky (Dem SoS)
North Carolina (Dem Sos/mixed Election Board)
Utah (GOP SoS)
Indiana (GOP SoS)
Wisconsin (Dem SoS)
Virginia (Dem SoS)
Minnesota (Dem SoS)
Oklahoma (GOP SoS)
Tennessee (GOP SoS)
New Mexico (Dem SoS)
Vermont (Dem SoS)
Rhode Island (Dem SoS)
Did I miss any?
whyamihere
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Yeah updated a few of them.
Wow. Got GOP SoS's too.
Bonen no Max'd
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It's just like, no one is fawning over how great Charlie Baker or Susan Collins are even though they'd be obvious improvements over Trump too, and to my knowledge they've never used racist stereotypes to justify brutal austerity (willing to be corrected).
whyamihere
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oh my god a lot of people haven't said anything yet calm down.
Yeah that's when I kind of realized that this was a little different.
Autodidact
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Mein Moderate Darling Mutti
whyamihere
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balladofwindfishes
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If McConnell had a bill ready for today, I think we'd be starting to hear about it, so I guess he failed.
What a shame /s
What a shame /s
Why does her party dominate so much in Germany?
Is the actual left wing just completely disorganized?
Bubba_Sparks
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Here is my prediction. Trump serving out his term or being impeached doesn't really matter as either case doesn't solve the deep-seated problems America faces. The rhetoric from both sides has crossed the point of being a disagreement between neighbors to open hostility. I honestly don't think you can return as a nation from this point. Quite frankly, I think America will tear itself apart due to growing gaps in view amongst various elements of society.
Beer Monkey
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That's what you think. Wait until we find out the Russia/Enquirer connection. Everything dirty in Trump's world ends up connected. I'm kidding. But not totally.
Bonen no Max'd
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Not an expert but if I had to guess it's that the SPD followed the collapse of the center-left that happened everywhere but The Left hasn't really surged in response. When the SPD picked their new leader they surged and looked like they might win the next election but have since collapsed.
whyamihere
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Yeah, and Trump's election kind of boosted her election prospects tbh and kind of killed AfD.
Black = CDU/CSU (Merkel's party, center right)
Red = SPD (center-left)
Light Blue = AfD (far right, Trumpesque)
Green = Green
Maroon = Linke (left wing)
Yellow = FDP (center, liberal)
SPD will probably lose (though who knows since election season hasn't really begun in earnest), but will probably gain % in the Bundestag. AfD is going to get some seats, but the question is if they follow the pattern of other nationalist, right wing parties and underperform their polls. FDP also will probably (probably?) get a few seats to, so who knows what the math will actually come out to. It'll be messier than the 2013 election for sure.
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I could actually live with those three being let go.
And LOL treason charges. Project much?
Deuce Deuce
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I don't know about the both sides thing. Only one side has prominent politicians describing bloody face lifts and inflicting harm on dissenters.
Tom Price losing a House seat he could've held for years to come (even if GA-6 gets bluer, a good incumbent can hold a seat that's bad for their party) for a job he lost in 6 months would be delicious.
Box of Kittens
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The Left is partially descended from the SED (ruling party of East Germany) so a lot of voters just don't trust them and I believe it also causes difficulties for them in forming coalitions, at least at the federal level (they have taken part in coalitions at the state level).
whyamihere
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For the record, the reason why Merkel did ANYTHING was that all of her potential coalition partners (SPD, FDP, Green) were going to demand a free vote on marriage equality regardless, and CDU/CSU ruled out a coalition with AfD already. So instead of making it a potential election issue, she sort of neutralized the issue while also placating the very conservative CSU by voting No.
Yup, but they're starting to shed a lot of their old guard and stereotypes and are more open to the fabled Red-Green-Red alliance (SPD-Greens-Linke, based on their colors). They've had some talks, but it looks like CDU/CSU is just going to win again.
Yup, but they're starting to shed a lot of their old guard and stereotypes and are more open to the fabled Red-Green-Red alliance (SPD-Greens-Linke, based on their colors). They've had some talks, but it looks like CDU/CSU is just going to win again.
Bonen no Max'd
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Yeah, I was aware of this. I was just pointing out that there hasn't really been an insurgent left-wing response to the current establishment a la Syriza/Corbyn/Sanders etc.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Because she actually let refugees in?
Not letting a million people die is pretty good.
Fenderputty
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Treason charges?
fredrancour
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Yes the extent to which a large portion of the country seems to crave fascism is disturbing and combating the conservative religion of white supremacy is very difficult, but it's bizarre to equate "aspiring fascist regime" and "standing up for democracy, justice, and the environment." Don't talk like resisting an aspiring dictator and his propaganda machine makes liberals bad people.
whyamihere
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Eh, Germany is sort of the center of the EU. You're not going to see a lot of populist responses there (see: the decline of AfD). And Schultz is incredibly popular among the left-leaning parts of the population, hence the rise in SPD that's neutralized a left-wing populist response. Think, like, how badly the Greens did in 08 when Obama was running.
Box of Kittens
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SIde note: I do like that a hypothetical SPD-FDP-Green alliance is known as a "traffic light coalition."
nature boy
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AKA GIVE ME SOMETHING TO SIGN
It's more likely because they're already part of or likely going to be part of a criminal inquiry.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Unless law enforcement asked them not to release them for the case of a lawsuit.
whyamihere
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Arkansas's SoS (R) also will only give the Kobach/Pence commission what's publicly available.
Autodidact
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If we get a bombshell Russia story tonight, this week might be the worst since the Comey firing.
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