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[Deleted member 231381]

this was a very good video but a bit disappointed going in because I thought it would be about banning cars

Currently I think we're prioritizing banning covering housing for the poor in flammable cladding, but I'm sure cars are on the list.

 

[TiredofWinning]

GA-6 poll

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/6th-district-poll-fewer-voters-undecided/534524963

It's sad that it France and Britain went through their entire election cycle in a shorter time than this election.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

Currently I think we're prioritizing banning covering housing for the poor in flammable cladding, but I'm sure cars are on the list.

just assumed it because you grouped me and pigeon together for it, it was very good though, thanks for sharing

 

[B-Dubs]

Currently I think we're prioritizing banning covering housing for the poor in flammable cladding, but I'm sure cars are on the list.

Yea, how the hell were we ahead of you guys on that one?

 

[Deleted member 231381]

just assumed it because you grouped me and pigeon together for it, it was very good though, thanks for sharing

(my previous comment was a very dry aside not a remonstration - possibly a Britishism that did not translate)

More on topic, this thread is right. The fact GA-6 is still trundling on is incredible. How has that as an election not been put out of its misery?

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Yea, how the hell were we ahead of you guys on that one?

Got buried under the Conservatives. I presume Obama would have been in office when it was reviewed in the US and so a Democratic official responsible for implementing any change; hence the difference.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

I thought you might like this, pigeon and Bonen.

Would that there were more like him.

Do progressives really hate the BBC in the UK and think it's a mouthpiece for the government?

 

[Mac_Lane]

It's sad that it France and Britain went through their entire election cycle in a shorter time than this election.

Well, actually the presidential election seemed to have laster forever in France. I'd say it started back in August 2016, when Sarkozy announced that he would be running in the Republican primary. Then we had to go through the Republican primary, the Socialist party primary... The Penelopegate then polluted the entire campaign. We all felt relieved after the run-off was completed.

And this election cycle will actually end Sunday night, when the run-off for the Legislative elections will be completed.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Do progressives really hate the BBC in the UK and think it's a mouthpiece for the government?

Hmm. I think it's more complicated than that. The BBC tends to have something of a government house effect - there's a noticeable degree of self-preservation in whatever the BBC is doing and they do tend to rally round the dominant political party. There was a strong Labour bent to them throughout the early 2000s, for example. But certainly in recent times, especially because Cameron felt empowered to attack the BBC in a way not seen in some time, and because of a 'capture' of key BBC roles, under pressure, by significant Conservative members like Nick Robinson and Laura Kuennsberg, the BBC has been seen to have a moderate preference for stories and selection of reporting that has favoured the right.

I'm not sure how much this situation will continue with May's current weakened state; there's a lot of journalists who can probably smell the blood in the water and are keen to sink in their teeth. But I don't think it is at all unfair for the left to complain in part about the coverage of Miliband and later Corbyn, even if I wouldn't go as far in the gentleman in that clip (who is understandably very upset and angry).

EDIT: And as a general rule of thumb, having lived in both countries, British media is wildly more vociferous and partisan than its American equivalents. You don't really have an equivalent to the tabloids over there; the New York Post is pretty tame by comparison. So there's more 'cultural suspicion' amongst the British left, I think, because of the Mail, the Express, the Sun, and so on.

 

[Resident_UA]

It's sad that it France and Britain went through their entire election cycle in a shorter time than this election.

Why can't Democrats and Republicans agree to pass something that shortens election cycle in the US? It would save them a bunch of money and will limit this circus to a specific dates. Because even now it feels like everyone is running for 2020 election so nothing gets done...

 

[Suikoguy]

Why can't Democrats and Republicans agree to pass something that shortens election cycle in the US? It would save them a bunch of money and will limit this circus to a specific dates. Because even now it feels like everyone is running for 2020 election so nothing gets done...

Trump can't even agree to not campaign NOW.

 

[Kid Kamikaze10]

No oppo drop today. 8 years of Trump confirmed.

Not as bad as others buuut

More info of Trump's finances came out

 

[Autodidact]

Why can't Democrats and Republicans agree to pass something that shortens election cycle in the US? It would save them a bunch of money and will limit this circus to a specific dates. Because even now it feels like everyone is running for 2020 election so nothing gets done...

Because elections in this country are a business, not a political process. TV stations get paid to run aids. Pollsters get paid to conduct polls. Advertising agencies get paid to create ads and literature. They all have a vested interest in prolonging the campaign season.

 

[whyamihere]

tehehehehehehehe

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/...eresa-may.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

LONDON — Ridiculed by the right-wing tabloid media and ignored by Prime Minister Theresa May as she pursued plans for a clean break with the European Union, Britain’s pro-Europeans suddenly have something they have long wanted: leverage.

After the recent stunning general election, in which her governing Conservative Party lost its parliamentary majority, Mrs. May faces pressure from both inside and outside the party to soften her plans to exit the bloc, a process known as Brexit, as talks are set to begin on Monday.

The pro-Europe Britons’ demands that Mrs. May maintain closer ties to the European Union have grown louder and more assertive — in particular the calls to keep Britain in Europe’s customs union, which provides tariff-free access to Continental markets and helps integrate the British and European economies.

For the first time since the referendum on Britain’s exit, there is “an opportunity to have a much better relationship with the European Union,” said Roland Rudd, a senior figure in the defeated “remain” campaign and founder of Finsbury, a communications company.


Anand Menon, a professor of European politics and foreign affairs at King’s College London, said, “I think on balance in the House of Commons there is a majority for something softer than Theresa May’s idea of Brexit.”

This, Professor Menon said, creates a difficult and dangerous dynamic for Mrs. May. She emerged from the snap election she called with a far weaker hand for Brexit negotiations, and must also avert a return to feuding over Europe in her Conservative Party, where there is still strong support for a tough stance.

The new and changed political landscape makes the prospect of two diametrically opposed outcomes more likely, he said: “a softer Brexit” or “a chaotic Brexit.”

For now, no one is talking about revisiting the principle of British withdrawal, a plan accepted by the Conservatives and the opposition Labour Party after Britons voted in a referendum last year to quit. But the timing could hardly be more problematic for a change in Mrs. May’s original plan, only days before talks are to begin with the European Union and amid signs of frustration in Brussels at the political turmoil in London.

For Mrs. May, there are no easy options. If she waters down her exit strategy — as her predecessor, David Cameron, has urged her to consider — that could set off a rebellion from hard-line “leave” supporters, including David Davis, the cabinet minister responsible for negotiating Britain’s withdrawal, and the foreign secretary, Boris Johnson. Both are potential successors to Mrs. May.

Yet, if she does not move away from their agenda, which prioritizes control over immigration and lawmaking above the country’s economic interests, Mrs. May risks legislative gridlock in Parliament, where she has no clear majority and must rely on 10 lawmakers from Northern Ireland’s Democratic Unionist Party.

Minority governments, or those with small majorities, tend to struggle, and some people fear a return to the situation in the 1970s, when a Labour government needed every vote to pass legislation, sick legislators were brought to Parliament to vote (sometimes hours after surgery), and a lawmaker responsible for party discipline was routinely dispatched at voting time to search out legislators in the lavatories — peering over the top of doors when necessary.

Key to her attempts to govern effectively will be the more pro-European politicians in Mrs. May’s government. She promoted one of them, Damian Green, a longtime ally, to first secretary of state and kept in place Philip Hammond, the chancellor of the Exchequer, whom she had intended to fire, according to news reports.

Mr. Hammond, who on Thursday postponed a major speech because of a devastating fire in London that killed at least 30 people, is believed to be pressing Mrs. May to make a U-turn and consider retaining membership of Europe’s customs union. That could be done without accepting the free movement of European workers — which Mrs. May is determined to end in order to curb immigration — though it would most likely mean abandoning her idea of striking bilateral trade deals with non-European nations, including the United States.

Speaking in Luxembourg on Friday ahead of a meeting of European Union finance ministers, Mr. Hammond said, according to Reuters, “My clear view, and I believe the view of the majority of people in Britain, is that we should prioritize protecting jobs, protecting economic growth, protecting prosperity as we enter those negotiations and take them forward.”

The thought of a clean break also prompted one pro-European activist, Gina Miller, to urge Britons to vote tactically in the general election to deny Mrs. May the big majority she craved. Many young people also voted with an angry eye on Britain’s exit, driven by thoughts of futures upended under a hard exit. Business leaders, too, see an opportunity to push a softer exit.

Even the Democratic Unionist Party lawmakers, who support Britain’s withdrawal and will want to keep Mrs. May in power, hope to keep open their border with Ireland for free trade, which is vital to the Northern Irish economy. While they may agree to leave the customs union, they back a policy of “comprehensive free trade and customs agreement” with the European Union.

Pro-Europe Britons have floated other ideas, such as accepting a long transition period before Britain departs from the bloc, and accepting rulings from the European Court of Justice.

The prospect of Britain’s continuing indefinitely in Europe’s single market, which removes non-tariff barriers and helps trade in services, is less likely. That would almost certainly involve accepting free movement, something that both Mrs. May and Labour’s leader, Jeremy Corbyn, have ruled out.

Other Labour figures, however, have talked of remaining in a “reformed” version of it and have criticized Mrs. May’s stance. “What we’ve criticized the government for is simply sweeping options off the table before they even started the negotiations,” Keir Starmer, a Labour lawmaker and spokesman on the British exit, told the BBC.

Mrs. May could stall the negotiations for a time, because the immediate focus of the talks will be on other issues, including the rights of European Union citizens living in Britain.

But the Labour Party knows that in her weakened position in Parliament, the prime minister could eventually be defeated over a range of issues, including Brexit-related bills. Even if she gets such legislation through the House of Commons, she will have to worry about the unelected House of Lords, where she has no majority, either.

That chamber delayed her plans to announce, by invoking Article 50, that Britain was leaving the European Union, but ultimately cleared the way. By tradition, the Lords yields to the House of Commons on issues that were in the governing party’s election manifesto, and therefore have been endorsed by the voters. But, after her electoral setback, that convention is unlikely to apply to Mrs. May’s exit plans.

“It was very, very difficult for Theresa May before the election,” Professor Menon said, “and it has now become significantly more difficult still.”

teheheheehheheheheehe

 

[kirblar]

How fitting that the appropriate word to describe my reaction is German.

 

[Wilsongt]

So what was Trump's Cuba proposal?

 

[LostMyNarbles]

I don't know what's more disturbing in Trump's finances. The fact that he has at minimum around 300 million in debt, or the fact that two of the loans go back to 1993/1994 and he never paid them off for some reason. I mean, you have to be pretty irresponsible to have such longstanding loans when you no doubt have the means to pay them back. I don't understand why they weren't paid.

 

[Autodidact]

I don't know what's more disturbing in Trump's finances. The fact that he has at minimum around 300 million in debt, or the fact that two of the loans go back to 1993/1994 and he never paid them off for some reason. I mean, you have to be pretty irresponsible to have such longstanding loans when you no doubt have the means to pay them back. I don't understand why they weren't paid.

"That's because I'm smart!"

 

[Spoiled Milk]

I don't know what's more disturbing in Trump's finances. The fact that he has at minimum around 300 million in debt, or the fact that two of the loans go back to 1993/1994 and he never paid them off for some reason. I mean, you have to be pretty irresponsible to have such longstanding loans when you no doubt have the means to pay them back. I don't understand why they weren't paid.

"That's because I'm smart!"

Trump's corporation makes 10 billion in revenue every year. Owing that much money is like if you made $100,000 every year and had a $3,000 credit card balance.

 

[Joe]

Is there some hidden meaning in the 538 podcast logo that I'm not seeing? It seems way too basic and straightforward for them

 

[Spoiled Milk]

Is there some hidden meaning in the 538 podcast logo that I'm not seeing? It seems way too basic and straightforward for them

Your podcast arrives in 20 minutes or less, or it's on them.

 

[kirblar]

8 pips = 5 + 3

 

[jtb]

8 pips = 5 + 3

mind blown

(still find the podcast utterly insufferable)

 

[Teggy]

There's also this

The United States Commission on Civil Rights, a bipartisan agency charged with advising the president and Congress on civil rights matters, unanimously approved a comprehensive two-year probe into the “degree to which current budgets and staffing levels allow civil rights offices to perform” their functions within the administration, said the agency in a statement.

The federal watchdog group became concerned about the Trump administration after several agencies announced budget and personnel cuts in departments that oversee civil rights. The "proposed cuts would result in a dangerous reduction of civil rights enforcement across the country, leaving communities of color, LGBT people, older people, people with disabilities, and other marginalized groups exposed to greater risk of discrimination," said the statement.

 

[Aaron Strife]

There's also this

WHADDOYOU HAVE TO LOSE???

 

[Avon Barksdale]

How will be we able to visit Cuba now?

 

[Spoiled Milk]

WHADDOYOU HAVE TO LOSE???

i forgot about that lol

 

[Autodidact]

How will be we able to visit Cuba now?

Surreptitiously.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Of fucking course Sandoval vetoed the Medicaid for All plan, putrid pile of shit.

 

[Suikoguy]

Is there some hidden meaning in the 538 podcast logo that I'm not seeing? It seems way too basic and straightforward for them

It's like a hybrid between the Dominos logo and the American Flag.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

How will be we able to visit Cuba now?

Close your eyes and play a Pitbull track. DALE

 

[Autodidact]

Of fucking course Sandoval vetoed the Medicaid for All plan, putrid pile of shit.

Nevada's Moderate Darling

Do they have the numbers for an override? If not, the Democrats have just gotten more ammunition for the governor's race next year: "We could have Medicaid for all if not for the Republicans!"

 

[Wilsongt]

Of fucking course Sandoval vetoed the Medicaid for All plan, putrid pile of shit.

When did he do that?

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

Of fucking course Sandoval vetoed the Medicaid for All plan, putrid pile of shit.

Sprinkle for governor now please

 

[Aaron Strife]

Nevada's Moderate Darling

Do they have the numbers for an override? If not, the Democrats have just gotten more ammunition for the governor's race next year: "We could have Medicaid for all if not for the Republicans!"

They're one vote away from being able to override in the Assembly and two away in the Senate. Unfortunately that's pretty much party line.

When did he do that?

Today, if he didn't sign or veto it before midnight it would have automatically become law along with 40 other bills he vetoed.

https://thenevadaindependent.com/ar...ll-ramp-up-nevadas-renewable-energy-ambitions

 

[Spoiled Milk]

Of fucking course Sandoval vetoed the Medicaid for All plan, putrid pile of shit.

I wouldn't go that far in language but he's definitely bowing down to his corporate overlords. I'm also disappointed that the renewable energy bill didn't pass. He's really acting like a typical Republican - pro business roadblock.

More interested in seeing if Brown signs the parallel bill and punts the issue to Gavin to figure out how to fund it.

 

[Crocodile]

So can someone explain to me what was the point of Trump Cuba shift? Especially since it seems halfway done? It seems even a lot of Republican Senators aren't on board with this? Just to stroke the balls of a few Cuban Republicans in Florida?

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

What happened to the Cuba plan now?

 

[TestOfTide]

So can someone explain to me what was the point of Trump Cuba shift? Especially since it seems halfway done? It seems even a lot of Republican Senators aren't on board with this? Just to stroke the balls of a few Cuban Republicans in Florida?

It's literally just because Obama did something therefor Trump wants to reverse it.

 

[Diablos]

So can someone explain to me what was the point of Trump Cuba shift? Especially since it seems halfway done? It seems even a lot of Republican Senators aren't on board with this? Just to stroke the balls of a few Cuban Republicans in Florida?

Probably to ruin Obama's legacy

 

[BoogieWoogie]

So I know this is Reddit, but this is quite the amazing thread on why Trump's Digital Director being questioned may be WAY more important than we realize:

So I don't have anything more than circumstantial evidence for this unless I reveal my identity, but I am 100% sure that the Trump Campaign is defrauding donors. I don't know if we really have a name for the kind of fraud it is, but it is pretty much exactly the same scheme Ben Carson ran in the primary, expect Carson didn't know about it and wasn't running it for himself. Trump is. I call it a "Digital Boiler Room" scheme.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6horwi/first_on_cnn_house_russia_investigators_want_to/

 

[~Kinggi~]

So I know this is Reddit, but this is quite the amazing thread on why Trump's Digital Director being questioned may be WAY more important than we realize:



https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6horwi/first_on_cnn_house_russia_investigators_want_to/

Others were saying 85 million changed hands between that guy and trump for a few months of web-related work. They seemed to think that was highly abnormal and some type of front for something. They were saying this months ago too.

 

[Ether_Snake]

So can someone explain to me what was the point of Trump Cuba shift? Especially since it seems halfway done? It seems even a lot of Republican Senators aren't on board with this? Just to stroke the balls of a few Cuban Republicans in Florida?

Trump wants to have people talk about what he does, has to have an opinion on everything and wants to people to hear it, makes him feel smart and important. Not surprising he's going after everything Obama did. Trump has to "trump" everyone.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

It's literally just because Obama did something therefor Trump wants to reverse it.

No, it's because Cubans helped Trump barely win Florida and a staffer told him he needs to reward them.

 

[SomewhatGroovy]

Did anyone hate themselves enough to watch Hannity?

"Are the left susceptible to misinformation and lies? Take a look!"

*shows baseball shooting*

 

[Zolo]

Hannity's a conspiracy theory peddler. Why watch him?

 

[Spoiled Milk]

60 minutes of hate

 

[fredrancour]

Did anyone hate themselves enough to watch Hannity?

"Are the left susceptible to misinformation and lies? Take a look!"

*shows baseball shooting*

Wow. I will endeavor to stop saying that I hate myself. I'd never inflict hannity on me.

 

[SomewhatGroovy]

Hannity's a conspiracy theory peddler. Why watch him?

I abuse myself to prep myself to debate this shit with people I run across regurgitate it all.

 

[Zolo]

I abuse myself to prep myself to debate this shit with people I run across regurgitate it all.

Luckily, nobody I know is that extreme. Then again, the type of people I know are people who will vote Republican their whole lives, but don't like Trump anyway.