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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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Third Strike
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The silver lining in all of this is that if Democrats do get a slim majority, they could block any SCOTUS nominations from Trump for the next two years until 2020. If something does happen to McCain, I wonder what Justice Kennedy will do, especially since it looks like he's hanging on for another year or so.
balladofwindfishes
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Why would McCain retiring matter to Kennedy?
The surgery was for a blood clot. They probably found the cancer in the process but that's just my speculation.
Edit: now CNN says the surgery removed a tumor and that's when they found the cancer.
Autodidact
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I think he means that McCain's retiring would mean a greater chance of a Democratic Senate next year, and Kennedy, a Republican, wants to be replaced by a Republican.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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I think they removed a clot from his eye but found the tumor while doing a scan for the eye (prob a CT scan? idk).
Brain cancer, especially vicious brain cancer like glioblastoma, can be hell to treat because there are relatively few chemo drugs that cross the blood-brain barrier, and fucking around with the brain invites all sorts of unintended side effects.
Combine that with the decreased physiologic reserve one has at age 80, and... yeah, McCain would be highly anomalous to make it through this.
I bet John McCain is a model patient, though.
http://www.abta.org/brain-tumor-information/types-of-tumors/glioblastoma.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/
Also the above. Hard to treat, high blood flow, malignant. Super aggressive, spread quickly.
They removed a clot and discovered the tumor that way.
UberTag
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I'm surprised that you're surprised.
McCain probably has very little time left. Better for him to just enjoy the rest of his days with his family. I do regret making fun of his recent behavior now knowing what was going on.
Senate majority is still fucked for Dems, and instead of preying on his potentially vacant seat, Dems would be better off finding out how to run better elections for House and Senate races next year
Senate majority is still fucked for Dems, and instead of preying on his potentially vacant seat, Dems would be better off finding out how to run better elections for House and Senate races next year
Now CNN says they removed a tumor and discovered the cancer. Maybe there was no "clot" and that was the story until they knew more? IDK right now still moving fast.
Yes, I read that they removed a tumor.
I see that now I thought it was a misunderstanding about the clot which was the original story, but I read about the tumor after that.
Officerrob
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Has Trump turned on Flynn?
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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This dumbass has now made it impossible to interfere in any way against Mueller.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The funny thing is I'm certain Mueller et al., have been investigating these already.
Aaron Strife
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There are like two Senate pickup opportunities next year without McCain's retirement. How is "preying on his potentially vacant seat" detrimental to "running better elections for House and Senate races"?
StopMakingSense
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Reid's machine is only really possible because of Vegas and it's outsized voting power to the rest of the state, and the monoeconomy of the casinos making it easy to turn out votes via unions and other workers.
If he resigns before the election, doesn't the Republican governor of Arizon pick who to fill the seat with?
That's what happened in SC after Jim Demented left to join Heritage Foundation and Tim Scott took his place.
This is symptomatic of Trump in multiple ways.
There is just so much idiocy packed into this interview.
First, the paranoia. Everyone is out to get him. Sessions, Rosenstein, Comey, Mueller -- he even throws darts at his nominee to head the FBI. He doesn't have a good word to say about anyone in federal law enforcement leadership.
Second, the ignorance. He just makes up reasons to criticize people. They're nonsensical. But in his head, they make sense, so he runs with them. The job of the Attorney General is not to shield the President from investigation. But in Trump's pea-brain, he see the AG as his personal lackey.
In any event, some free legal advice for Trump: Obstruction of Justice requires intent. Giving interviews like this, where you all but say you appointed and fired people in order to frustrate a federal investigation, will really help the people who are looking to prosecute you. You might want to maybe not do that any more.
What percentage of this administration's crises have come from Trump being an idiot who can't think things through? 80%? 99%?
ratcliffja
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If Trump gets rid of Sessions now, though, he risks Sessions flipping.
balladofwindfishes
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Yea, but the replacement would be running with a year of experience. He'd essentially be a nobody.
A new AG nominee would have to get Senate confirmation and you know that question would come up.
And I'm sure everyone would be very concerned about it.
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/887851744432205825
This video of McCain is when the crazies started to takeover the party.
This video of McCain is when the crazies started to takeover the party.
Hat tip to the OT thread on the Times interview but:
Those German shredders can't whir fast enough.
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/887833965587025920
Big German Bank, Key to Trumps Finances, Faces New Scrutiny: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/...umps-finances-faces-new-scrutiny.html?mcubz=1
Those German shredders can't whir fast enough.
If any shredder is up to the job, it is German engineered ones.
Does Volkswagen agree? ;-)
Also, Trump and DB did business for two decades. That's a lot of dirt.
aspiegamer
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Saying "blood clot" over the weekend when it might have been a known tumor already sounds a polite PR way of saying they were waiting for more info before saying anything else, honestly. Otherwise it's arguably pretty lucky they went in for one thing and found the other before it was too late to treat.
That's only diesel shredders.
I work for a cancer charity, and John McCain was a particular enemy of ours, because there are funds from the Department of Defense that are line-item funding for specific disease research (unlike the NIH or CDC which is a big ol' bucket), so we push hard on it every year because it guarantees that our cancer specifically gets a certain amount of money annually.
McCain, like clockwork every year, adds language to the NDAA that tries to scrap this funding because it "doesn't help soldiers in the field." It's been defeated, but it's a risk we have to face every year.
I've lost relatives to cancer (and seen others struggle to get to survivor status). My dad's in chemo for Chronic Lymphocyte Leukemia right now (don't worry, they caught it early). Wouldn't wish it on anyone. But there is still an irony there.
McCain, like clockwork every year, adds language to the NDAA that tries to scrap this funding because it "doesn't help soldiers in the field." It's been defeated, but it's a risk we have to face every year.
I've lost relatives to cancer (and seen others struggle to get to survivor status). My dad's in chemo for Chronic Lymphocyte Leukemia right now (don't worry, they caught it early). Wouldn't wish it on anyone. But there is still an irony there.
j_k_redtail
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My best wishes to Sen. McCain. GBM is extremely aggressive and we don't have good therapies for it.
I'm just saying that at this stage it's premature and just disrespectful to immediately pounce on the prospect of picking up his seat in the event he would step down or die and it doesn't do anything to help Democrats overall heading into the midterms.
Wishing for something to break your way because someone is dying isn't a good strategy.
ArkhamFantasy
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Did you say something? I cant hear you over this loud ass whistling noise.
StopMakingSense
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There is no special election for Senator in AZ, Governor appointed, same party as retiring senator.
whyamihere
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lol Jill Stein
Then there would be a special election November 2018 to fill out the rest of McCain's term.
Then there would be a special election November 2018 to fill out the rest of McCain's term.
Fenderputty
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He requested finCEN data on trump businesses almost immediately
NYT is working on putting up the interview transcript.
Did you know bleaching emails is enormously expensive?!
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LOL
NYT reporter straight up laughed at his response. Beautiful.
Did you know bleaching emails is enormously expensive?!
StopMakingSense
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Right, I think i just misunderstood his point. Sure, nobody's gonna do anything till he announces his retirement, that would be dumb.
Filled by a Republican, possibly worse than McCain. Arizona isn't that purple yet.
UberTag
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Crazies... or racists? Because the negative reaction I hear from the folks in the background there clearly sound like the shocked gasps of racists.
Or are they one in the same?
Same thing. I meant the people that lap up fake news like it's water.
StopMakingSense
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The Medicaid expansion is extremely popular in AZ. Lot of older people who moved there for their health.
whyamihere
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Republicans won an open seat in Illinois in 2010, was it that purple then?
Arizona is pretty fucking purple.
Arizona is pretty fucking purple.
It's not a matter of doing per se right now but a matter of mentality.
Because I know lots of people all over are going to foam at the mouth over him dying and maybe picking up his seat. It's okay to be competitive when the time comes, but let's not get too excited right now.
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